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Re: A List of 114 trailers' size & weight

Postby S. Heisley » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:17 am

Bob Henry, I added your rip van winkle to the spreadsheet but will wait to print and post it until we get a few more weights and measure from others. (It seems that, usually, when this thread comes back to the top, a couple more people will chime in with their information.)

Thanks for your input, everybody! Keep 'em coming.
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Re: A List of 114 trailers' size & weight

Postby S. Heisley » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:40 am

Forrest747 wrote:Looking at the numbers and I can not figure out why the 5x10 is almost 500 pound heavier than a 5x8. Does adding 2 extra feet really on average make a trailer that much more heavy.

Reason for griping is want to build another and get it lighter than my current 5x10 at 1600 pounds and lose about half the weight if at all possible.



Forrest, how much the trailer weighs is often based on how the builder assembled his or her trailer and the products that were chosen. In example, a trailer built with 1x2 boards is going to weigh less than the same trailer, built with 2x2's or 2x4's. Also, using 1/2" thick plywood for the sides instead of a sandwich of 1/8" plywood/Styrofoam/1/8" plywood is going to cause a build to weigh more. Getting carried away with the skeletal structure can also make a difference, as can the weight of the chassis, which can also differ (unless both are the same Harbor Freight model). Even whether it has the added weight of a lifting roof (like mine) or if it had over-built cabinets can make a difference. Even the type of wood used for the skeletal structure can make a difference. For example, 1x2" poplar boards will weigh less than 1x2 pine or oak boards. Everything is relative to how the trailer was built and all the spreadsheet can do is give a builder an idea of how much his or hers might weigh and what the lowest possible weight might be. When you have the builder's forum name, you can either look up the build or PM the builder to ask how the trailer was built. Therein lies the answer.

I hope all is well with you and yours!
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Re: A List of 114 trailers' size & weight

Postby jonw » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:17 pm

Forrest747 wrote:Looking at the numbers and I can not figure out why the 5x10 is almost 500 pound heavier than a 5x8. Does adding 2 extra feet really on average make a trailer that much more heavy.

Reason for griping is want to build another and get it lighter than my current 5x10 at 1600 pounds and lose about half the weight if at all possible.

A lot of the extra weight may be due to all the extra things people build-in or take with that extra room...
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Re: A List of 114 trailers' size & weight

Postby absolutsnwbrdr » Wed Jul 09, 2014 10:42 am

Sharon, my latest build is 5 x 10'-6", and weighed in at 1280lbs. Thanks!
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Re: A List of 117 trailers' size & weight

Postby S. Heisley » Thu Jul 10, 2014 1:57 am

Data moved farther down.
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Re: A List of 117 trailers' size & weight

Postby working on it » Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:47 pm

S. Heisley wrote:Thanks to all who have contributed! To date, we have 117 trailers listed. If I missed or messed anything, please let me know. :)


Sharon- you updated my trailer' weight to 1438lbs, a while back. After new tonguebox, lighting, extended run fuel tank & generator reconfiguration, complete axle makeover (3500Lb axle-brakes-frame reinforcements-suspension snubbers) were all added in, 1775lbs is my new estimated weight. I promise to stop before it reaches 2000lbs.
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Re: A List of 117 trailers' size & weight

Postby S. Heisley » Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:31 pm

working on it wrote:
S. Heisley wrote:Thanks to all who have contributed! To date, we have 117 trailers listed. If I missed or messed anything, please let me know. :)

Sharon- you updated my trailer' weight to 1438lbs, a while back. After new tonguebox, lighting, extended run fuel tank & generator reconfiguration, complete axle makeover (3500Lb axle-brakes-frame reinforcements-suspension snubbers) were all added in, 1775lbs is my new estimated weight. I promise to stop before it reaches 2000lbs.


If you added this to make me laugh, it worked! :lol: Okay, I'll change your trailer's weight again. :lol:
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Re: A List of 117 trailers' size & weight

Postby angib » Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:14 am

Congratulations to Sharon on such a wonderful job! I've taken her data and plotted it on a graph for those, like me, that 'see' data better that way.

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This enables the data to be turned around to answer the question "what does a typical teardrop weigh?" and I've started a separate thread for that:
Estimating your teardrop weight
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Re: A List of 117 trailers' size & weight

Postby slowcowboy » Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:00 am

looks like a average teardrop is around 1000 lbs to 2000 with most teardroops in the average range of around 1500 lbs! is this a corret estemate looking at your chart andrew? am I reading this right. slow
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Re: A List of 117 trailers' size & weight

Postby angib » Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:37 pm

Yes, the 'dense patch' is from 600 pounds to 1500 pounds, with smaller trailers (like 4x8s) generally at the lower end.

But what it mostly shows is that how heavily the builder builds is at least as important as how big the trailer is.
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Re: A List of 119 trailers' size & weight

Postby S. Heisley » Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:53 pm

angib wrote:Congratulations to Sharon on such a wonderful job! I've taken her data and plotted it on a graph for those, like me, that 'see' data better that way.

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This enables the data to be turned around to answer the question "what does a typical teardrop weigh?" and I've started a separate thread for that:
Estimating your teardrop weight


Thank you, Andrew, for your excellent addition of the graph, adding yet another spin to our forum's inventory of trailer building information.

Below is a list of trailers from people who have supplied their trailer(s) size and weight. It is listed alphabetically by forum member ID. As of 7/13/14 @2:28 PM,I have updated the charts to add square footage in the statistics area of the 3rd scanned page and to match what was used for the Angib's weight graph, which can be found, above.

Thanks to all who have contributed! We ended up with 119 trailers listed!
While the print of these scanned pages, below, is small, it can be enlarged in methods such as follows.

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The content of this chart is subject to human error; however, please be aware that:
- If someone was kind enough to answer more than one thread, an effort was made to eliminate duplicates
- If size was not given, that weight could not be used.
- If inches were given, they were dropped/rounded to feet or half feet (6 inches=.5')
- If more than one weight was given, the highest weight was used

angib wrote:
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...This enables the data to be turned around to answer the question "what does a typical teardrop weigh?" and I've started a separate thread for that:
Estimating your teardrop weight
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Re: List of 119 trailers' size & weight plus graph! pg 8

Postby oakinteriors1 » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:01 pm

Woody 5X10 weighs 1000 lbs.

Took it to the local quarry to get it weighed....Without that big refrigerator it would be Under 1,000 lbs, It weighed in at 1,020 lbs....

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Re: List of 119 trailers' size & weight plus graph! pg 8

Postby bobhenry » Mon Jul 14, 2014 2:19 pm

This makes me feel better. Looks like the mean average for a 65 sq ft shell is 1650# +/-

With Chubby at 1830 ( Certified scales weight ) I only over built by about 180 pounds.

The lexan was heavy ! The hatch spars were hugh(and heavy) the sides are soild 5/8 osb with a 1/4 luan veneer over it and it is fully insulated in the floor and the sides.

IT was my first build and I didn't want it falling apart so yes I overbuilt but I'll take the 9.8% over weight penalty gladly.

It's looking sad and in need of some attention soon but it is still my favorite.
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Re: List of 119 trailers' size & weight plus graph! pg 8

Postby bdosborn » Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:57 am

One of my goals with the Boxcar was to store everything in the trailer, nothing goes in the truck. When I weighed mine, I had it full of water (26 gal), food and all the camping appurtenances I see people put in their cars - lawn chairs, dutch ovens, awnings, etc. I wonder how much the trailer weight would go up for the typical teardrop if all the camping stuff in the car was included in the trailer. :thinking:

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Re: List of 119 trailers' size & weight plus graph! pg 8

Postby S. Heisley » Tue Jul 15, 2014 3:41 pm

bdosborn wrote:One of my goals with the Boxcar was to store everything in the trailer, nothing goes in the truck. When I weighed mine, I had it full of water (26 gal), food and all the camping appurtenances I see people put in their cars - lawn chairs, dutch ovens, awnings, etc. I wonder how much the trailer weight would go up for the typical teardrop if all the camping stuff in the car was included in the trailer. :thinking:

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With an empty trailer, weight is less likely to fluctuate than it is when loaded and that makes it easier to compare to commercial factory trailer weights, which are done when the trailer is empty. However, a few people insisted upon giving the loaded weight because they felt like you do. Therefore, the resulting weight information is slightly less than perfect. We get what people were willing to give.

However, food, clothing, bedding, potty supplies, etc, change with every season and even every camping trip because the length of stay can mean more food for more days and possibly more clothing, fuller water and propane tanks..... Add to that, like many people may also do, I clean out and pare down the trailer contents every winter season so that the trailer starts out fairly light at the beginning of the camping season; but, by fall, I've usually added quite a few things. :roll:

Then, of course, when people load their trailers for a camp trip, they want to get on the road and go CAMPING!!! :D Most don't want to stop at a weigh station and take the time to see how much everything weighs. :( Such is life..... ;)
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