What kind of a design should the 10th be? Starting standie!

[mikeschn]

Well, it looks like I am going to design 2 teardrops this year. A classic 4 footer, and a 6' standie.

I'm starting the standie design this morning. The floor plan is pretty straight forward.

Clamshell in the rear.
Bed goes across the trailer in the back
Bathroom is in the front, across from the door
Small chest in the front for storage, instead of a kitchen counter.

It's going to be built on a Northern Tools 5x8 which has been stretched to 5x10. The body will be 78" wide, and built over the wheels.

I'll start posting some screenshots of my work later...

Mike...

[mikeschn]

Here's the first pass... it doesn't have a dropped floor, so it's a bit taller than my giant teardrop was.

I also tried to make the top front corner more rounded, like a cub, rather than like my little diner... but I'm concerned because it decreases the headroom in the bathroom.

The back end is more like a Kit, to maximize the floor space for the galley.

Your thoughts?

#1



Mike...

[mikeschn]

Here I increased the headroom in the bathroom. But it's not nearly as aerodynamic as the first design.

#2



Mike...

[PaulS]

Looking forward to seeing more of both of theses

[mikeschn]

Okay, final tweak for this afternoon. See below. Notice the 69" headroom in the bathroom?

Now I'll wait for your feedback!

Mike...

#3

[jonw]

Mike - my $.02:

Seems it's going to be quite wide with the queen bed crosswise, requiring mirrors on most vehicles. My preference would be to sleep perpendicular to the sides to keep it 5 ft. wide. How about a semi-folding bed that could slide towards the rear and have one end pulled up near vertical during the day for sitting on (like a futon) but could be pulled flat for sleeping on. Even if it took a little space into the door way...

Also seems a bit tall, but I guess the height could be reduced with a drop floor.

As for the bathroom height, I like the first drawing. If you put the standing portion of the bathroom across from the door you could still stand up in half (or some amount) of it for showering and changing. For sitting on a toilet, height shouldn't be much of an issue.

Nice design - thanks...

[ATXKJ]

version A is about what I was thinking of 1/2 Tab, 1/2 Generic ET - doesn't quite look as clean as I thought it would

B looks like the Generic ET - which is not bad

but I really like C - that looks clean - balanced.

They're all good designs - but I'd vote for C.

Thanks for the ideas.

[mikeschn]

Very good eye David...

Anyone else have any thoughts?

Mike...

[PaulS]

I like the shape of #1.If I needed more head clearance for the head I would put the head acrossed from the door and do a dropped floor like someone else mentioned

[mikeschn]

Paul,

Here is the T@B profile overlaid on design #1.

You could either add a dropped floor, or raise the profile up a bit!

The T@B profile is a good starting point, because many people do extended stays in their T@Bs.

Mike...

[Lv4toys]

Personally, I like design 1 (shown with T@B profile). I really like the futon idea, this provides a sitting area on rainy days. What about going with a full size mattress instead of a queen?

[prohandyman]

Mike . I like it with these caveats...most people like to store their tears in their garages. Most standard garages have a 83-84" opening for the overhead door. Your overall height seems a bit tall, depending on your suspension system. Of course to get a a camper that short, a drop floor is required, and a shorter door. And one of the problems I have run into building the Whetzeldorfs is finding a suitable door. Atwood, the worlds largest supplier of camper parts, wants me to buy 10 to get custom doors to my size, so. I found a way to take a standard camper door, and cut it down for my needs. Screen door included usually. I find them at the surplus houses...Bontragers, etc. But...if storage in a garage is not necessary then all of this is a mute point. Just towing height above the tow vehicle may matter to some.
I also believe most people can/will sleep on a full size mattress while camping. A full is 54" wide x 75" long. That's 27" per person, and while not 30" as with a queen I believe it is tolerable. A queen is 60" wide so with foam it is possible to custom cut it to whatever width you want to make the bed. I am 6'2" and have no probs sleeping on a mattress 75" tall.
Also, bathroom height...with these campers being small and compact, I suspect bathroom use is for , the most part, midnight excursions ?! Or are you planning a shower as well? I guess my point is they won't require the height found in big white boxes. Just my 2cents worth!

[prohandyman]

Here's is a couple of Whetzeldorfs, 83" high to the top of the roof vent, 76" wide. Full size camper door cut down to fit. Same basic profile as with the SunShineInn just added 2' to the length to it to allow for the galley.

[mikeschn]

I found a standie for you guys!



My best guess is that you sleep sitting up!

Mike...

[KCStudly]

Wonder if they tow it with this: