What kind of a design should the 10th be? Starting standie!

[wagondude]

Just a thought, but with your current layout, a round nose like a raindrop would actually give better aero than a tear shaped nose. it would also give full headroom in the head. I like where your going, though.

[alffink]

I kinda like aggie79's idea of a smaller version of an old bread loaf design or maybe a modified canned ham
like the designated potty area and maybe the shower, like the mini-indoor kitchen for emergencies, we have been caught on three separate trips cooking breakfast with horizontal snow, Karen likes cooking outside, but having to clear snow to find the stove is not pleasant. We retired to AZ just so we would not have a chance of such things, but travel takes us north most of the time.

Al Fink
Central AZ

[Lgboro]

I would prefer a Standy with a slide out cook section similar to what the Aussie's build (and a few of the rest of us). I have that system on my current tear and love it. Allows mounting a second spare on the rear and not having to deal with keeping a galley hatch sealed. The slide out drawer is much easier to keep water sealed and you only need one awning system to cover cooking, sitting and entry.

[jonw]

Mike -

How about something like this (excuse my poor MSPaint drawing skills):


A gently sloping roof and a more squared off rear is more aerodynamic, would provide a nice surface for mounting solar panels, and would provide more space for a galley. A lightweight flip-up rear door could double as an awning, or you could have two side opening doors maybe with cabinets attached.

I still like the idea of a slide back futon-like bed with under-bed storage. Anyway, still thinking...

[Jiminsav]

saw one of these the other day, guy was hauling it to a dealer..this would be an almost standie.

[Ron Dickey]

There are so many directions one can go.

But the root of this forum was the Teardrop and one classic that has been around in the 1940's looks like at teardrop but you can stand up in it 6' when open, yet sleep in the front like a teardrop.
Kampmaster/Campmaster/Wild Goose
Found in In 1953, Popular Mechanics Magazine published plans to build the Wild Goose, which is basically the same design. page 187 - 193
http://books.google.com/books?id=UdwDAAAAMBAJ&q=



http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Htd90ICaf00/U ... aster3.jpg

I have stood in old ones, new ones and a prefab the the campmaster. All the the Dam Gathering in Shasta lake and can offer photo's of all. One man there made a new one copying his old one.

You will find it on page 38-39 of teardrops and tiny trailers by Douglas Heister
page 34 in ready to roll by Arrol Gellner

it is a teardrop it is a tent trailer it is a hardtop tent trailer with teadrop front.

found in Peterson car museum

there is a lot of research of this one too.

http://www.petersen.org/exhibitions/548 click on pictures on bottom.
Ron

[Ron Dickey]

this is in my gallery it was made just after WWII the green cloth is army tents. The man who owns it got it from a guy who stored it for about 50 years looks brand new.


this is a very unusual trailer you can sleep in it when the back is down, you save gas when you pull it, it's as high as your car, When it is up it has a full size door in the rear, and if you worked it right you could even have a shower in it or even a restroom.
It is a teardrop no it is a standie, It is a teardrop no it is a standie,It is a teardrop no it is a standie....
Ron

[Ron Dickey]

other places this trailer can be found

http://tnttt.com/VintagePlans/pln_wildgoose.pdf

http://www.angib.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/t ... tear36.htm

http://myteardropbuild.com/ChassisPlansv19.pdf

http://1949kampmaster.tumblr.com/

[pitbullluvajrod]

Hello all.. I would like to throw my $.02 in the hat. I would like to see a 6' Scotty-ish with a rear galley, to leave more room for inside comfort.

[Greg Barrick]

my $.02. I love them all. But, at 64 and my wife is rather round, a little roomier/easy entry is better. I've had the 4x8 cubby. Loved it, but too narrow and tough for wife to get in & out. I now have a Campster 12. We really love it. Not quite tall enough for me to stand in, but I can move around. Wife would like a taller entry door. I have a 13' foot trailer frame waiting for my design. I could go from 5' wide to 8' wide. Will probably go 6-1/2 wide. leaving the tires outside for easier changing and not having to deal with wheel wells. But, may go about 5-1/2 feet tall to be able to stand up and use my 5' tall door I have.
So, a small, light standy with a basic round "tear" shape for fuel economy and wind, oversized teardrop, inside potty?, inside kitchen for inclimate weather....being able to always pull it out side for "normal" cooking.

[Socal Tom]

I'd like to add my support to the idea for a pull out drawer kitchen. Here are my reasons
1) it will make more space available inside
2) this would put the kitchen on the same side as the door, meaning that if you are using the trailer to protect you from the weather you can use the long side of the trailer for better protection. I'd you are in an RV park, you won't feel like you are cooking in someone else's spot, it's right there,
3if you attach an awning, it's over the kitchen and you seating area.
4) I don't think we've seen a set of plans here that incorporated the drawer, so this would be an example people could apply to other designs. The clam she'll has been done ( perhaps you just add the drawer as an option on this design?

Looking forward to seeing the final design
Tom

[mikeschn]

Starting to work on the standie clamshell design...



This is a solid model version of this profile, #3, as I showed on the previous page...



What do you think?

Mike...

[Socal Tom]

It looks like a good start,

A couple of suggestions,

Some sort of shelf in the bathroom
instead of the shelf in the front, make it a full height closet.
I am assuming that with a clam shell the only things needed inside will be bedding and clothes/toiletries. A closet using that "wasted space will be more space efficient.
The shelves along the sides probably aren't needed if you have the closet.

Can the bed be a converting dinette? or maybe fold over to be a twin with seating on the door side?
It would also be a nice addition if the interior rear wall had a hinged shelf that folded down for interior use ( i.e. cooking inside if the weather was unfriendly)

Overall a nice design.
Tom

[GPW]

Just an observation (FWIW) .. a large fixed Bed takes up so Much of the living space ...Something else (?) might be better and give you more usable floor space in the daytime..
I’ve been in several "standys” and a lot of them felt “crowded” (claustrophobic) .... Just too much “ Traditional stuff” crammed into a reasonably sized space... and then a huge bed thrown in too ...
The trailer weights reflected their “complexity” ... Just crumbs for thought ...

[mikeschn]

Yes, I had planned on the bed converting into a dinette, like in the giant teardrop...



The front being a closet is a good idea. The other idea was making it a place to sit, like a blanket chest.

Mike...