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Re: neglected TT,our home for awhile (w/blackwater problem)

Postby slowcowboy » Fri Sep 22, 2017 5:41 am

I call my trailer house at yhe ranxh the bu k house i got no worki g furnace.no running water and a drop cord to the shop made out of outdoor wire...the former owner gutted the hole kit hen out so I just sleep in the back bed room.thus the bunk house..i go pre outside the main house to crap or take a bath we got no shower on the ranch..and to cook and eat...i do have a working fridge in my trailer house though and I use it mostly for storage.i am in the process of plumbing in a truck tank into a shallow well harbor freight pump 6 gallon well pump and pressure tank combo for a outdoors cistern..another reason i am moving slow on my 2 teardrop. I got other irons in the fire..slowcowboy

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Re: neglected TT,our home for awhile (w/blackwater problem)

Postby aggie79 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:20 am

I'm worn out just following your saga!

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Re: neglected TT,our home for awhile (w/blackwater problem)

Postby working on it » Sun Sep 24, 2017 6:55 pm

I'm spending my last night in this old house, since power and septic will be cut tomorrow. We'll de-flea the dogs with Capstars, Advantix, and set 3-4 flea traps around the trailer's interior, just to keep it as clean as we can (darn near impossible on a sandhill with no winter hard freezes for the last few years). Our usual procedures won't suffice, in such cramped quarters. My wife has been enjoying her trailer for a few days now, hot soaking baths (packing is not her thing), while I've been toting boxes, tearing out wire fencing and T-posts, until sundown for the last 3 days (no shower, same clothes, sleeping in the old house with the dogs...after the power is cut, and I remove the window A/C units, I will insist on moving into the TT, too). I should get the privilege of residence there, just as her birds and dogs have. I turn 67 at midnight...this isn't the life I wanted for my golden years...maybe it'll get better soon. I wish I was camping!

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Re: neglected TT,our home for awhile (w/blackwater problem)

Postby Padilen » Mon Sep 25, 2017 7:31 pm

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Re: neglected TT,our home for awhile (w/blackwater problem)

Postby working on it » Sat Sep 30, 2017 3:05 pm

Today I am preparing for another month in the travel trailer. We finally got the delivery date for the new one, October 26, twenty days later than the first date promised, and seventeen days after the revised date. I'm putting up a temporary fence to keep our dogs from escaping while my wife transfers them to the small enclosure from the trailer. She just can't manage them. I can, but only by manhandling the three large dogs. I also am rebuilding a ramp I hurriedly built to aid the dog transfers, but was too steeply angled for my wife, so whatever she wants gets done. I routed the greater disposal hose (30 feet) thru the original fence, bypassing the temporary dog yard, so it won't flood them out. It rained for two days straight, and that made everything worse, with recalcitrant dogs to deal with (they have to be forced out into the wet, even under better circumstances). The house was demolished on Tuesday, and the hole they left is huge.... We'll need 10 to 20 loads of road base to construct a new pad (more and more money). We had three huge trees and some overhanging limbs removed Thursday, in the rain, but the site inspector continues to evade us, and will not cooperate at all. I may have to get my lawyer involved, because my wife discourages me from horsewhipping him. I spent two days trying to get my cellphone to work right, since I must rely on it alone to play phone tag with all the contractors (We are in the trailer, with no landline, and poor WiFi -it is inside .my metal garage now, and the door must be open for decent operation, but not in a pouring rain, since there is furniture exposed-). I gave up on my old Samsung Rugby Pro (released in 2012), and persuaded the phone rep to let me have a cheap replacement. After he tried using it awhile, he agreed that it was bad, so I got a new Samsung Galaxy S7, for next to nothing. It's so much better! And I went from Android 4.1.2 to Android 7, in one easy step. Now I know why my wife and her friends get upgrades yearly. I'm just resting now, before I attempt the uphill purging of the Blackwater tank. My wife is bringing another hose I need to flush the tank with, and then we'll see if the macerator/pump works. Fun, fun, fun!

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Re: neglected TT,our home for awhile (w/blackwater problem)

Postby jim_manley » Sun Oct 01, 2017 12:38 pm

Based on your wife's insistence on hoarding what is clearly worthless junk, her "doesn't do moving" and "it's my trailer, I'll handle it" attitude, I'd have recommended, before all of this started, that you view a certain 1965 movie which you may have seen before, starring Jack Lemmon and the Gloppita-Gloppita Machine! It sounds like you're setting yourself up for a stroke, if not a heart attack - seriously, you may want to get a checkup ... at least from the neck-up! :?

Based on personal experience, you might also consider that, at some point, probably sooner, rather than later, you're both going to be too old to deal with all of that junk. It also sounds like there won't be many, if any, family and/or friends willing to do so. It will eventually likely become further unnecessary landfill in a time of extremis not of your choosing. You're very lucky to have that engineer neighbor to help you out, although being one myself, I fully understand his strong innate tendency to want to beat on such challenges, along with being helpful.

The best thing to ever happen to me, after happy family events, was being blessed with a military career where I had to move at least every couple of years, often from one side of the planet to another. It has given me a sincere appreciation for what's really important in life, and to not drag around a bunch of junk I would never lay eyes on again, let alone my fingers. It also led me to rabidly embracing the TnTTT concept, and it's pretty obvious others here share in that revelry.

Hope you're over the hump and in your new abode sooner, rather than later.

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Re: neglected TT,our home for awhile (w/blackwater problem)

Postby working on it » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:03 pm

jim_manley wrote:Based on your wife's insistence on hoarding what is clearly worthless junk, her "doesn't do moving" and "it's my trailer, I'll handle it" attitude, I'd have recommended, before all of this started, that you view a certain 1965 movie which you may have seen before, starring Jack Lemmon and the Gloppita-Gloppita Machine! It sounds like you're setting yourself up for a stroke, if not a heart attack - seriously, you may want to get a checkup ... at least from the neck-up! :?

Based on personal experience, you might also consider that, at some point, probably sooner, rather than later, you're both going to be too old to deal with all of that junk. It also sounds like there won't be many, if any, family and/or friends willing to do so. It will eventually likely become further unnecessary landfill in a time of extremis not of your choosing. You're very lucky to have that engineer neighbor to help you out, although being one myself, I fully understand his strong innate tendency to want to beat on such challenges, along with being helpful.

The best thing to ever happen to me, after happy family events, was being blessed with a military career where I had to move at least every couple of years, often from one side of the planet to another. It has given me a sincere appreciation for what's really important in life, and to not drag around a bunch of junk I would never lay eyes on again, let alone my fingers. It also led me to rabidly embracing the TnTTT concept, and it's pretty obvious others here share in that revelry.

Hope you're over the hump and in your new abode sooner, rather than later.

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I love that movie "How to Murder Your Wife", and have watched dozens of Times since it came out. But, I've never contemplated acting it out in reality with this wife, despite her faults (my conception of her faults...in her reality, she has none, much like myself). I seriously imagined a similar fate for my ex, though my mother talked me into divorcing her, instead.
So far, in the week I've been living in the travel trailer with her and the dogs, we've cooperate pretty well, with only my temper flaring up (after more problems with the now-replaced Samsung Rugby Pro phone, then with reticent contractors, and the PROPANE tank service -which will not remove the 40% full tank we haven't used in 3.5 years, after a dozen phone calls this week alone-), just got me bent out of shape. We've been managing mixed weather, dog escapes (I now have three levels of containment, but one miniature long-haired Dachshund, and my devoted Dorkie, can get thru tiny cracks in my makeshift wire fences). We've also had one minor victory...the Blackwater tank was successfully emptied into our septic, after we repeatedly filled it with clog removing chemicals (my wife never emptied it after her last business trip, 5 years ago...she just put septic antifreeze into the tank, and left it partly full; go figure that one!). Just another case of something I should've asked direct questions about, but trusted her "common sense" instead (she's got the college degree, not me, you know. Stay tuned...it's sorta like "I Love Lucy" around here.

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Re: neglected TT,our home for awhile (w/blackwater problem)

Postby Padilen » Tue Oct 03, 2017 7:37 pm

The propane tank cant be transported with more than 10% in it. They should be able to pump it out. But if it's not your tank and the propane companies I think they are required to remove it, within a certain time frame. I had an empty one, it sat for a well over a year, repeatedly called them. Finally we put by edge of road easement.

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Re: neglected TT,our home for awhile (w/blackwater problem)

Postby working on it » Wed Oct 04, 2017 8:45 am

Padilen wrote:The propane tank cant be transported with more than 10% in it. They should be able to pump it out. But if it's not your tank and the propane companies I think they are required to remove it, within a certain time frame. I had an empty one, it sat for a well over a year, repeatedly called them. Finally we put by edge of road easement.

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We've tried to get Amerigas to remove it for over three years. They just can't get their sh*# together. Lots of phone calls to them, took down my fence three times for them, and the still haven't ever sent a truck to pump it out. It took two years to get them from sending us bills for tank rental, so they are losing money on it every day. The local service manager is never in, and the pump truck is never available, and yada, yada....This last week alone, I've spent 5 hours on the phone will two different people, both promising the non-existent pump truck driver will call. I don't want him to call, just show up with the truck, before the new pad/house block access to it, again. What a bunch of incompetents! I'm about to try to call their national office, to complain about these people. You would think that since this local office services the DFW Metroplex, there would be people/equipment enough to do this one job, over the 3+ years timespan.

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Re: neglected TT,our home for awhile (w/blackwater problem)

Postby Padilen » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:54 pm

I had a friend that worked in the propane !industry. He provided me with names and numbers to report them. I started that process but didn't end up doing it. It needed to go as my house was being built. So out by the road it went. Delivery driver must have seen it because it got picked up either that week of the next. They did threaten that if it was damaged I'd be liable. I said well when you get that figure ad 100$ to it and that's you storage rental owed to me. . This was also the company that laughed when I said I had a leak at tank after I got it. I finally had my friend check it. After a smoker stood by it and tried to get flame from it. That jerk is a long sorry too.
My friend found the leak, but worked for a different company so he couldn't fix it. Took awhile, for them to get it taken care of. They pretty much knew then I wasn't going to do business with them.



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Re: neglected TT,our home for awhile (w/blackwater problem)

Postby working on it » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:09 am

Padilen wrote:I had a friend that worked in the propane !industry. He provided me with names and numbers to report them. I started that process but didn't end up doing it. It needed to go as my house was being built. So out by the road it went. Delivery driver must have seen it because it got picked up either that week of the next. They did threaten that if it was damaged I'd be liable. I said well when you get that figure ad 100$ to it and that's you storage rental owed to me. . This was also the company that laughed when I said I had a leak at tank after I got it. I finally had my friend check it. After a smoker stood by it and tried to get flame from it. That jerk is a long sorry too.
My friend found the leak, but worked for a different company so he couldn't fix it. Took awhile, for them to get it taken care of. They pretty much knew then I wasn't going to do business with them.



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I finally got connected to a rep that agreed to come look at the situation, yesterday, after being put on hold for 15 minutes (the women in their office don't want to hear me rant anymore, I guess). This young guy came out, looked around the sandpit where my house was, and tried to say that it was not possible, with their pumper truck. I cut him off, saying that they could always find a way to deliver the propane, so they better damn well get the proper equipment to remove it. If they could stretch a hose 75ft to fill the tank, then surely they could suck it back in thru a 25-50ft hose (25 is my measured distance, 50ft was his). Either way, it better get done before the weekend. At this point, he kept saying they'd try, but I kept shouting (I was getting steamed by now) "DO it, not TRY it" (a la Yoda), and my wife stepped in and sent me back to the trailer, to cool down (I need to watch my temper, it sends my blood pressure skyward). I yelled back at her to get the district manager's #, and she resumed my tirade for me. If nothing is done today, then we call that #, followed by a complaint to the Railroad Commission, which oversees propane use in Texas. Then, maybe call a local TV station, just as a final threat to America's! Stay tuned....

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Re: neglected TT,our home for awhile (w/blackwater problem)

Postby working on it » Thu Oct 05, 2017 9:15 am

working on it wrote:
Padilen wrote:I had a friend that worked in the propane !industry. He provided me with names and numbers to report them. I started that process but didn't end up doing it. It needed to go as my house was being built. So out by the road it went. Delivery driver must have seen it because it got picked up either that week of the next. They did threaten that if it was damaged I'd be liable. I said well when you get that figure ad 100$ to it and that's you storage rental owed to me. . This was also the company that laughed when I said I had a leak at tank after I got it. I finally had my friend check it. After a smoker stood by it and tried to get flame from it. That jerk is a long sorry too.
My friend found the leak, but worked for a different company so he couldn't fix it. Took awhile, for them to get it taken care of. They pretty much knew then I wasn't going to do business with them.



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I finally got connected to a rep that agreed to come look at the situation, yesterday, after being put on hold for 15 minutes (the women in their office don't want to hear me rant anymore, I guess). This young guy came out, looked around the sandpit where my house was, and tried to say that it was not possible, with their pumper truck. I cut him off, saying that they could always find a way to deliver the propane, so they better damn well get the proper equipment to remove it. If they could stretch a hose 75ft to fill the tank, then surely they could suck it back in thru a 25-50ft hose (25 is my measured distance, 50ft was his). Either way, it better get done before the weekend. At this point, he kept saying they'd try, but I kept shouting (I was getting steamed by now) "DO it, not TRY it" (a la Yoda), and my wife stepped in and sent me back to the trailer, to cool down (I need to watch my temper, it sends my blood pressure skyward). I yelled back at her to get the district manager's #, and she resumed my tirade for me. If nothing is done today, then we call that #, followed by a complaint to the Railroad Commission, which oversees propane use in Texas. Then, maybe call a local TV station, just as a final threat to America's! Stay tuned....

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The last line wasn't correct: I typed in AMERIGAS, not America. Autocorrect made me sound like a foreigner...I love the USA, but not Amerigas Propane (I'm not very good typing in on a cellphone, either, using Tapatalk.)

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Postby Padilen » Thu Oct 05, 2017 11:32 am

It too was Amerigas

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Postby working on it » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:53 pm

Padilen wrote:It too was Amerigas

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Well, it surprised me when a young guy (different one) showed up this afternoon with a crane truck and a can-do attitude (my maternal grandfather was a Seabee during WW2, and taught me to recognize people who can-do, and those that won't try). Within 20 minutes he had the 40% full tank on his truck (after moving a 100% full tank over, to make room), and apologized for his company's failures in the past, and went on his way.
So, I learned from him that he had made an independent decision to go help me out, after all the crap and lies that had been flung my way. Otherwise, left to management, nothing was scheduled to be done. A real can-do guy...I wish I had had several like him working with and for me at my former workplace. Problem solved!
Just as I had emphatically proclaimed to everyone I had talked to at Amerigas, the sand was firm enough for a heavy truck to back within 10 feet of the tank and retrieve it. This guy was sure I was right, and it proved to be so. No fancy pumper truck, nor special equipment, nor a command decision from upper management was needed...just a worker willing to come out and try. I hope that someone from Amerigas makes a follow-up call to me; I'll praise this guy's initiative, and deride the management that failed for 3.5 years to do what he did in 20 minutes.

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Postby working on it » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:38 am

  • I finally decided to set my laptop and separate viewscreen up on the TT dinette. Works much better than having to use Tapatalk on my Samsung S7 (still haven't found my Lenovo tablet). This way, I can type, edit, and insert pictures (if needed) much faster, though I still only go from one-finger typing to two. And that pesky auto-correct on my phone doesn't over-correct me.
  • New developments (and added expenses) keep cropping up; I finally got my pad builder to meet with my delivery/set-up guy and myself on Saturday. My wife wasn't present, but should have been...she was at a Bigfoot convention (remember, I had to forego a camping trip I wanted to go on, in mid-September, but not her). She has the architecture/design degree, and the training and experience with home construction and/or problems thru her years of being an insurance adjuster (she did adjustments at catastrophe sites). As usual, she expected me to do the dealings with the contractors, though I have had no experience with home pads, retaining walls, or HUD requirements, that she has.
  • The two contractors decided that I need to reconstruct a partial retaining wall that my demolition contractor screwed-up, and extend it beyond its' original 16 foot length. Now, including the 28 ft patio slab (also damaged by the demolition contractor), the new wall will be 90 ft, in an L-shape. The old wall was a mix of concrete, cinder blocks, and bricks, built by a former neighbor for the previous owner; the new wall will be of concrete only, to be built by a professional. It will be costly, and won't be completed until 3 days before the house is to be delivered, so we have to delay that delivery until the pad is completed. So, we might be in this travel trailer until early November.
  • Also, more trees need to be cut down, and more over-hanging limbs need removal, so the tree guys get more of my money. I also found a different source of "select fill" dirt for the re-building of my house pad, from another contractor that couldn't build my wall (he is booked-up until late November). He'll dump 40 or so cubic yards near my "hole" (where my old house was), so I can start moving it after the pad guy levels the existing sand. Money, money, money....
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