How to run wire 110v

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Re: How to run wire 110v

Postby brandon32689 » Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:25 pm

Kharn wrote:I just ordered raceway from monoprice.com, it was dirt cheap compared to other sources that I found, especially for the connectors/corners/etc, like $0.19 each instead of $5 for 5.


What all are you running threw yours
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Re: How to run wire 110v

Postby Kharn » Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:24 pm

12-2 Romex from the head to the foot of the bed, under the mattress for use in the galley (which will be very rare and low-draw, I don't have a microwave, coffee maker or convection oven, mainly it is there so we don't have to run an extension cord on the ground from the tongue box). I didn't want to put such a big hole through my roof spars. My 12v DC runs go through the roof spars, but I also will use two pieces to bring wire down from the ceiling to the holes for the porch lights.
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Re: How to run wire 110v

Postby highdesertranger » Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:35 pm

i can't believe this, you people must not do much off roading. never use solid wire. then the excuse "well rv builders use it". well they mostly use 2x2 wood for construction, stapled together. the rv's built this way do not hold up to off road travel. off road builders do not use these technics. most rv's are meant to be used like 2 weeks a year and not driven off road. do not follow their example, it is a bad one, meant to maximize profits. my 2 cents. highdesertranger
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Re: How to run wire 110v

Postby brandon32689 » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:28 pm

highdesertranger wrote:i can't believe this, you people must not do much off roading. never use solid wire. then the excuse "well rv builders use it". well they mostly use 2x2 wood for construction, stapled together. the rv's built this way do not hold up to off road travel. off road builders do not use these technics. most rv's are meant to be used like 2 weeks a year and not driven off road. do not follow their example, it is a bad one, meant to maximize profits. my 2 cents. highdesertranger


I bought all the wire already I went with number 12 stranded wire. And will be running it in conduct mounted to the outside of panels
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Re: How to run wire 110v

Postby GuitarPhotog » Thu Aug 21, 2014 11:40 pm

highdesertranger wrote:i can't believe this, you people must not do much off roading. never use solid wire. then the excuse "well rv builders use it". well they mostly use 2x2 wood for construction, stapled together. the rv's built this way do not hold up to off road travel. off road builders do not use these technics. most rv's are meant to be used like 2 weeks a year and not driven off road. do not follow their example, it is a bad one, meant to maximize profits. my 2 cents. highdesertranger


Well, it's also spec'd in the Natl RV Elec code, so I guess that doesn't count.

But, indeed not everybody takes their trailer off-road. My 1948 aluminum teardrop would shake itself to death taken down a washboard road. The point is that standards are written to protect people. It's certainly very permissable to bypass standards when conditions require. But it's not good practice to recommend that everyone bypass the standards because your conditions and use requires it.

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Re: How to run wire 110v

Postby highdesertranger » Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:14 pm

so do you have a link for that code. like I said rv's aren't made for off road or to be used more than a couple of weeks a year. you realize they make stranded wire romex. the marine industry uses it. a buddy of mine has one of those 4x4 rv's and it has stranded wire romex. it also has one of those riva labels so I doubt the standard you are quoting says you must use solid wire. it probably says it's acceptable for rv use, which for us offroaders is unacceptable. highdesertranger
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Re: How to run wire 110v

Postby bnsfham » Mon Aug 25, 2014 9:09 pm

I might add that one should keep in mind that #12 is rated for 20 amps and #14 is rated for 15 amps. This is AC or DC. Current is current. True, solid wire can be more brittle, and stranded can be difficult to attach to some outlets, but each has its place. Also remember that when you install fuses or breakers, they should be sized for the wire. Breakers and fuses are designed to disconnect power in the event of too much current draw, which could be a short, or an appliance drawing too much current. With a breaker or fuse sized larger than your wire, the wire could catch on fire before the fuse blows or the breaker trips. For the math junkies, Watts law is your friend, Power (watts)=current (amps) X volts (volts [LOL]). This works with AC and DC. for example, if you have a lightbulb that is 120 volts and rated at 100 watts, it will draw .833 amps, so if your lighting circuit was #14, you could essentially run 15 100 watt bulbs and be under your wire rating. You should be able to find the wattage and voltage for any appliance, tool or gadget, and sometimes the current draw. Sorry if I rambled, I just want everyone to be safe.
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Re: How to run wire 110v

Postby brandon32689 » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:37 pm

bnsfham wrote:I might add that one should keep in mind that #12 is rated for 20 amps and #14 is rated for 15 amps. This is AC or DC. Current is current. True, solid wire can be more brittle, and stranded can be difficult to attach to some outlets, but each has its place. Also remember that when you install fuses or breakers, they should be sized for the wire. Breakers and fuses are designed to disconnect power in the event of too much current draw, which could be a short, or an appliance drawing too much current. With a breaker or fuse sized larger than your wire, the wire could catch on fire before the fuse blows or the breaker trips. For the math junkies, Watts law is your friend, Power (watts)=current (amps) X volts (volts [LOL]). This works with AC and DC. for example, if you have a lightbulb that is 120 volts and rated at 100 watts, it will draw .833 amps, so if your lighting circuit was #14, you could essentially run 15 100 watt bulbs and be under your wire rating. You should be able to find the wattage and voltage for any appliance, tool or gadget, and sometimes the current draw. Sorry if I rambled, I just want everyone to be safe.

Thanks for all the info I have decided to wore it up in conduct and on the outside of panels. I have used number 10 wire from outside 30amp plug to breaker panel. And I'm running number 12 wire to all plugs and the ac. All on 20 amp breakers and all stranded wire. I got 20 amp plugs where the wire slides in them.

I am going to have every light on dc and I bought A 12 spot fuse block I am going to use the same number 12 wire for all my dc to and stick 20 amp fuses in there as well. I'll get pics up soon thanks for all your guys help
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Re: How to run wire 110v

Postby kenafp » Mon Aug 25, 2014 11:51 pm

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Re: How to run wire 110v

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