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Postby Noob » Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:57 pm

KBS wrote:I use a trick I learned from a scout master. While you're chatting around the campfire, put your dutch oven on it with some potatoes wrapped in foil inside. They'll cook inside the oven. At bed time, take them out, wrap them in a towel or something to keep them from burning you skin, and stick them in your bed. They won't pose any hazard, don't make a mess, and guess what? your hash browns for breakfast the next morning are ready to be grated and heated up.


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Postby Prem » Mon Jan 25, 2010 2:56 am

Speaking of Dutch ovens, how about this trick: Put a bunch of rocks and sand in your DO, stick it in the fire for a couple of hours before bedtime, then set it on a 12" x 12" tile in your trailer to heat the place all night long. :D
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Heated Blanket

Postby NWBeerKat » Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:27 pm

I had put alot of thought into this some time ago. Here is a link for a 12v heated blanket, but it has 30 or 45 min timer. I found one at that website in camo. I did not find a UL listing on it and it is only 3/4 length.
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/1 ... x?a=312195
You can search for this one: Car Cozy 2

Honestly, the dangers of carbon monoxide poisoning by catlytic heaters are real. But only in Canada. :lol: I've been trying to think up a way to make a radiant floor system (or removable) for a larger trailer (11x8 standie)
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Works for the Boy Scouts

Postby Eric Krag » Thu Jan 28, 2010 5:40 pm

Hello Gang

I have to share. With Basic Mountaineering Training Courses, we would have our students just use a French Candle lanterns for heat in a Tent, including during winter.
They automatically push up as they burn and the metal housing is real warm. Pennies a day....just vent a window to exchange fresh air.

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Use Space blankets!

Postby gyroguy » Mon Mar 22, 2010 1:08 pm

Laredo wrote:If you really are worried about getting too cold here is a simple (not necessarily *cheap* but inexpensive and low-risk) solution: layers.

On your mattress, below all other bedding: a mylar blanket.
Atop this a cotton thermal blanket.
Atop this a sheet or fleece layer.

Then, on top of the person sleeping, the 2nd sheet or fleece layer, and a cotton thermal folded double with a 2nd mylar inside it.

Toasty. In fact, you'll want a good steady ventilation fan running.

Variation on the theme: Reflectix underneath all other bedding and a wool (military surplus) blanket atop all other bedding. That's a little more breathable but it costs more too.


The topic IS cheap heat, right? Here is a cheaper, $4 answer.

We human beings make our own heat. The trick is to avoid losing it. Space blankets represent a real cheap way to keep warm!

Buy two space blankets, the thin aluminized-plastic emergency type that was invented for the 1963 Echo communications satellite.

Put one on top of the mattress, under the sheet. If available, put a blanket over the sheet. I like the fleecy kind, myself.

Wear clean undies, socks, and/or clothing to bed. Clean and dry can't be beat. Use your regular blankets, and more if needed.

Put your winter jacket over your feet. Put a watch cap or toboggan on your head. Snuggle into the blankets and tuck them tight around you.

If needed, tape the second space blanket to the ceiling so it can reflect radiated heat back at you.

The plastic space blanket under you makes krinkly sounds. Put earplugs in if the krinkly sounds bother you when you move around in bed. Space blankets still work when they have holes in them, and you can patch rips with mailing tape or duct tape.

Regulate heat by removing blankets when you get hot. Crack a window for fresh air, and the roof vent if you get too hot.

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Postby Tadlan » Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:23 am

I posted an idea about a chiller in this thread:

http://tnttt.com/viewto ... r&start=30

I was also thinking of using the same technique as a heater if needed. I would run the copper pipe through the bottom of an old artillery case. I found ceramic briquettes the other day. I could easily pop those in the dutch oven for a while, throw them toasty into my box, twist my timer fans on for an hour or two, and let the heat exchange pump warm air into the TD. It wouldn't use much energy. I'll let people know how my experiments go on both the heater and the chiller.
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Postby Larry C » Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:32 pm

Heat........ An interesting topic. IMO "You don't need no stinkin heat" no matter how cold it gets!!! :thumbdown:

From when I was 35-50 years old, I used to seek out the coldest temperatures I could find to go winter (tent) camping/mountaineering in the Adirondacks of NYS.

There was a group including my wife that would wait for reports of -20 to -40 temps to go winter tent camping. A friend would fly in from Florida to join us.

We had more trouble starting or cars at -40 than staying alive in a tent 10 miles from the nearest road. Doing things correctly, one can be quite comfortable at extreme temperatures even in a tent at -20 with high winds blowing, setting on 10' deep snow.

All you really need is to be hydrated, fueled, and insulated. If you eat and drink (no alcohol) and have a proper sleeping bag or enough other insulating layers your body will produce all the heat you need.

Some tricks we used to take the chill off :

use a candle lantern. It is amazing how much heat a candle will produce in a tent. I'm sure it will do even better in an insulated teardrop. Just kill when you go to sleep.

Wear a wool hat to bed.......

Take the clothes you will put on in the morning to bed with you. They will be warm in the morning.

Take a well sealed (lexan)water bottle (with an insulating jacket) filled with Hot Hot water to bed with you. This is a great heat source to use during the night. have a small thermos close by with just hot water. take a sip during the night if you get chilled, it will put a smile on your face.......this really works.

Have a Pee bottle available (men) don't get out of bed unless you have to.

When you wake in the morning, this is the coldest you will be. Re-light the candle lantern while still in bed. The lantern will burn off the frost on the ceiling and raise the temp inside a lot more than you may think.

All your bodies fuel and hydration stores are depleted. Have ready a packet of instant hot chocolate. If you have a good thermos, the water should still be hot. Before getting out of bed, drink the hot chocolate and have a poptart or some Fig Newtons.

You will be amazed how the combination of the candle lantern, the hot chocolate and a cookie or 2 will lift your spirits and warm you.

When you get up, get dressed while still in bed, with the clothes you brought to bed with you. Go for a walk with a lot of insulating layers on you, especially a warm hat. This will get your blood flowing and further warm you. When you start to heat up from the exercise, you are ready to make a fire,breakfast or just start your day.

Another tip: before introducing a new technique, we would pre-test the technique by camping in our back yard in the winter to see what worked or didn't. It may be a good idea to try any new system at home first, in the conditions you may expect while on the road.

In conclusion: Save your artificial heat sources for when your standing around and need to warm your hands. Don't use them while sleeping. Try some of my simple tips, you may find you can sleep comfortably at any temperature in your Teardrop without any artificial heat source. It's really all in your head.........

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Postby Ratkity » Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:29 pm

Ladies can use a "Travel John" - Disposible tinkle bag. Great invention!

You forgot to add two 85 lbs golden retrievers that love to cuddle to add to the heat :lol:

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Postby slowcowboy » Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:25 pm

us guys in wyoming have to camp often in below 32 in the summer time. especially in the winderiver moutains. over kill on insulation works for me. like 2inches of pink foam or bettor.

I aslso use a 12 volt road pro high end electric heator. its ratted at a lot more than the normal harbor freight little dash heators.

I treid one of them and they were a wast of time for the drain on the battery compared to the puff of air they put out.

This road pro beats them all. I can run it for like 15 to 30 minutes and be warm with all my over kill insulation all night. makes like 15 to 20 deagra inside temputure diffrence. and if you don't run it very long the trade off in battery drain is not enough to kill you.

I don't use my battery for much other than lights and I do run a colemam two mantle propane lantern outside so I don't even use my 12 volt lights very long just enough to go to bed or find matches to light the coleman lantern.

So I normaly have a lot of 12 volt deep cyle battery juice to burn. I rarely though have to use the road pro 12 volt heator. as this was a hotter summer in wyoming and with my over insulation extra heat has not been to much of a issue.

if I need heat I get a lot a lot of use out of the 12 volt road pro. It is one sold in truck stops the lot bigger one and is NOT a dash heator. it is the more expesive high end 12 volt heator. I got it acutally off of ebay.

I can generate enough heat from it to stay warm all night in like 15 minutes with out having to go 30 on the battery.

just turn it on with the car idleing before bed and your ready to sleep in comfort. as a back up I do have a 12 volt heating blanket that I have never used and a big heavy sleeping bag like army goosedown one goes a long way to needing no heat.

Its where you live in what part of the country and how well built or insulated your teardrop is to wheter you need heat or how much. I live in wyoming and I froze on my teardrops maiden voyage as my teardrop was not finshed when i took it out to go camping the first. time.
I had white frost on the ground in the moring and no insulation in my teardrop and I forze. after that I filled it big time with insutlation.

and I never regretted it and the overkill insulation paid off. I also am no sleeping on a bare pywood floor. I have a peice of carpet and beever board between me and the plywood floor. I am also going to in the future when I complete my teardrop in myabee 5 more years put in 3 inches of foam insulation under the floor of my teardrop and fill in the space in the harbor freight trailer frame with insulation and then cover that with tin on the bottom of the trailer frame.

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