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Anyone have direct knowledge about dispersed camping? It's hard to believe that they'll try to shut down the forest. It's hard enough to believe that they're trying for the parks. Yea for the ww2 vets.

Sorry if my tone was wrong. Really trying to plan a camping trip this weekend.

Maybe nobody knows the answers.

I am curious myself. We plan to see what the status is this weekend. With the recent rule changes the dispersed camping thing has become much more restricted than in the past. My pessimistic side thinks the FS will do some stupid a$$ closings. The Santa Fe National Forest that surrounds our private property (cabin) has already closed many of the "no fee" fishing and picnic areas along the highway through the forest because of budget cutbacks. Yes, they left the "pay for day use" areas open. But now if they act like the NPS I expect to see these fee areas shut too. It would really be something if they lock the regular access gates too. I shall report Tuesday or late Monday.

The Vet memorial closing thing was a political dog and pony show. It cost more money to erect fencing and put up closed banners than it would have to just leave the open air public access park open.

I'm sorry, but whoever decided to close that park had another agenda than saving on the budget. Ridiculous. Anyone who has ever been there knows that the park will be just fine for a couple of days w/o the lawn being mowed and the trash cans being emptied.

Hurray for the DCPD for having the common sense and decency to amend that situation.

Lest this get out of hand and become a political finger pointing issue!

Closing it is NOT vindictive. It is NOT petty. It is NOT for show. It's the law!

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...around here, we have several FS CG's and day use areas...they have all been closed down...however, the forest is still open for usage, even with all the restrictions they have added in recent years...

I agree totally with the SHADOW...it's the law!!! There are plenty of fingers to be pointed on this deal, REGARDLESS of your political leanings...as my ol' Daddy used to say, for every finger you point, there are 3 more pointed right back at YOU.......
madjack

The USFS lands are open. Dispersed camping will not be an issue. I suspect any campground with a gate on it is locked but don't know that for sure.

Congress is acting like spoiled brats.

My annual vacation is starting tomorrow. We stay at an Army Corp of Engineering campground in Arkansas. So needless to say they are closed. I got lucky & found a State Park that had an opening. Business is booming for the State Parks. The Feds have given notice to all campers to vacate.

slowcowboy wrote:
by the time we take the tarps off the teardrops in wyoming next june they should have figured out what the heck they are going to do in washington
slow

Hope you're right; but, by my reckoning, they've had over 200 years to figure things out, and haven't done it yet. But, then again, maybe they do have it figured out, and I just didn't receive the memo....

I don't see how they could stop the camping up in the Superior National Forest in MN. Can't close the roads as the loggers use them.
As for the government, always entertaining

Well here in Nevada they closed all fed parks but the state parks are still open and BLM land is open to camping dry witch most of us do anyway There is lots of open land in ever state just got to find it or ask the old farmer if you can camp on their land We will make it threw all of this

during the 17th govt. shut down I remember hopping the fence with my parents to walk on the local national wildlife refuge, most of the local towns were there doing the same thing.
I have a list of places I want to get into during the 18th.

the politics of the WWII memorial is being proven by the fact the Lincoln memorial and the rest were not fenced off during the 17th. The park service workers were directed to close the WWII memorial to keep honor flight veterans out and "cause the most pain" (something they don't understand). The same thing is happeing in Normandy France at the veiwing areas, and the blue ridge parkway. the fact they can afford fencing (not just barriers and police tape like the first day) and gaurds on a privately funded and operated (I donated) memorial
Arizona is ready to fund and operate the grand canyon, but was told no...

dispersed camping is about the only way i've done it. mostly because campgrounds have people

usually on BLM land and not National Forest.

they ask you to stay to established paths and disturb as little of the wildlife as possible. and of course pack in everything you've brought to leave it as you found it or better