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Re: Wood for campfires

Postby Redneck Teepee » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:45 am

Tomterrific wrote:Is kiln dried lumber illegal?

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Depends, Kiln dried is basically just has warm air circulated around it to speed up the drying process, I don't think any chemicals are used to facilitate the drying. The forest service and others discourages or outlaws the burning of any dimensioned lumber since you really do not know how it could have possibly been previously treated.
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Re: Wood for campfires

Postby lrrowe » Wed Mar 02, 2016 10:53 am

Tomterrific wrote:Indian make small fire, sit close. White man make big fire, sit far away.

Part of my job, my gift to Loretta, is gathering sticks for a little fire. I break them up and stack in a pile for 'Ret to toss on the fire. Even when we have larger firewood I use the big pieces to contain the smaller fire. I'm not that much of a camper but I've not had many problems finding sticks somewhere. Once when we were backpacking we used a single candle for our 'campfire'.

Is kiln dried lumber illegal?

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While I did it not knowing it was agInst the rules, the last campground we were at prohibited going around and even scavaging for small sticks. Seems like everything is getting tough to do today without offending someone or breaking a rule here or there.

I can understand not importing firewood from far away places, but then why do the campgrounds have to gouge you with their captive audience prices? It is counterproductive to the cause.
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Re: Wood for campfires

Postby slowcowboy » Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:10 am

I do pack a potable propane one.............but here in Wyoming at national forest set ups............this is not a big deal and we normaly don't pack any wood with us.........slow.
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Re: Wood for campfires

Postby Socal Tom » Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:21 am

dexstrom wrote:We use Repose Fire Logs, they burn wood pellets and burn clean and hot. http://www.reposenow.com/ Much cheaper than 'buy it where you burn it' wood sold in the campgrounds.

Those are prettyh cool, and they could be hauled without worrying about the mess that firewood has. Hmmmm.
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Re: Wood for campfires

Postby lrrowe » Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:53 am

Socal Tom wrote:
dexstrom wrote:We use Repose Fire Logs, they burn wood pellets and burn clean and hot. http://www.reposenow.com/ Much cheaper than 'buy it where you burn it' wood sold in the campgrounds.

Those are prettyh cool, and they could be hauled without worrying about the mess that firewood has. Hmmmm.
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Hmmmm is what I was thinking also. There are definitely pros and cons. I for a quick minute thought how to clone them with a homemade version. But for $40, why bother?
That time should be spent on my CT project which is 5 months behind. When crossing state lines, the hassle factor of firewood might go away. And Slow's propane firepit is a consideration, except it is one more bulky thing to carry around.
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Re: Wood for campfires

Postby minstrel » Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:37 am

My kids gave me a Fire Dancer for my birthday and it works well......gives off a fair amount of heat if you set it high.

http://www.amazon.com/Convert-A-Ball-FD ... B0007R8G0W

I like the looks of those Repose Fire Logs also. One nice thing about the propane portable pit is that you can place it wherever you like....out of the wind and you don't have to keep moving to get out of the way of the smoke! :) :thumbsup:
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Re: Wood for campfires

Postby Socal Tom » Fri Mar 04, 2016 11:51 am

minstrel wrote:My kids gave me a Fire Dancer for my birthday and it works well......gives off a fair amount of heat if you set it high.

http://www.amazon.com/Convert-A-Ball-FD ... B0007R8G0W

I like the looks of those Repose Fire Logs also. One nice thing about the propane portable pit is that you can place it wherever you like....out of the wind and you don't have to keep moving to get out of the way of the smoke! :) :thumbsup:


One RV park I've been to doesn't allow wood fires. They sell some sort of fire gel ( barely enough heat to cook a marshmallow). They said the fire marshall won't let them have fires because the RVs are too close together. The propane pit is allowed, but to really good marshmallows properly you need hot coals. Which don't come in a fire pit.
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Re: Wood for campfires

Postby lrrowe » Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:18 pm

More and more these days, things we used to do, and that we enjoyed, are being taken away from us because someone else does not want us to do it. Sometimes the reasons are valid, other times, well, I wonder whose agenda they support. :x
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Re: Wood for campfires

Postby Socal Tom » Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:28 pm

lrrowe wrote:More and more these days, things we used to do, and that we enjoyed, are being taken away from us because someone else does not want us to do it. Sometimes the reasons are valid, other times, well, I wonder whose agenda they support. :x


I have to cut them a little slack. Its a park of probably 200 RVs, the spaces are probably 20 ft wide, so a fire pit would only be 10ft from each RV. Its a small town, so if one RV caught fire, the whole place would be an inferno before they could put it out. ( and people can be idiots when camping). They do have a "community" fire pit area that you can use if you want to walk to the end of the road.
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Re: Wood for campfires

Postby ae6black » Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:49 pm

I saw something called a rocket stove on Ebay made out of an old Propane tank. Has anybody used something like this? What kind of heat does it put out for cooking as well as does it shoot any visible flame out of the top for campfire after dark? I sort of liked the idea from what I saw in the pictures.

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Re: Wood for campfires

Postby jss06 » Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:21 pm

ae6black wrote:I saw something called a rocket stove on Ebay made out of an old Propane tank. Has anybody used something like this? What kind of heat does it put out for cooking as well as does it shoot any visible flame out of the top for campfire after dark? I sort of liked the idea from what I saw in the pictures.

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I made one when I first heard about them. They produce a lot of heat out of the top from very little wood. They will heat up a pan or pot very fast. There is no visible flame out the top and they don't radiate heat unless they are poorly built.
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Re: Wood for campfires

Postby lrrowe » Sat Mar 05, 2016 2:10 pm

There have been many interesting ideas presented, a couple I am going to look at again such as the propane firepits to use when there is some sort of burning ban at my campsite.
And I have another question or two to ask about about the propane firepits which I will start in another new thread.

But the one question I really was hoping to get in this thread is "what are y'all (yes my I am writing in Southern form) doing for wood when you visit a campsite where wood burning is permitted and you do not want to pay the high campground wood prices." This assumes you did not bring local and legal firewood with you.

In other words, if you do not buy the wood from the campground (and not at the local store), do you look for local firewood dealers or something like that for "certified" firewood?

I think what I really am hearing is that one of the propane firepits may be the best solutions when you get to this point.
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Re: Wood for campfires

Postby ae6black » Sat Mar 05, 2016 2:27 pm

Bob, One of the things I do in Pa's National forest is buy a wood permit and cut my own. The permit is roughly 20 buck or so and lasts a year.

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Re: Wood for campfires

Postby lrrowe » Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:05 pm

We used to have something like that in the VA National Forests for dead and down trees. I used to do this for my home wood stoves. I guess it is still in place. And that would solve the problem for National Forests camping.

But like this coming April when we go to the the VA State Park in VA Beach with a TearJerkers group, that option is not available, nor do I believe I could bring in wood cut in my local NF which is 6 hours away from VA Beach.
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Re: Wood for campfires

Postby Spotman » Sat Mar 05, 2016 6:07 pm

Bob, we have never had a problem with outside wood, whether it be split wood from local vendors or scrap wood from home projects. There are really good Rangers and a Camp Host here, never bothered anyone. And we have some really good fires going some nights. :twisted: 8)




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