tenfingers wrote:What I planned on doing was....
brian_bp wrote:I realize that it has been months since Andrew's post, but since Esteban has revived the thread...
The Dexter side mount hanger is attached to... the side of the axle bracket. Following that example, why not use an angle (instead of plate) to build a longer side mount hanger with multiple mounting holes, which would not need to be any wider than the stock Dexter parts?
It would take less steel, as the fixed-to-frame (green) part would be something like a 2"x2" angle instead of a 4" wide flat plate, and there would be no fixed-to-axle (red) part required.
There would be a couple less holes to drill per side, and welding to the axle bracket would be eliminated.
G-force wrote:Because the stock side mount stradles the axle tube. You could not just replace it with an angle, unless the entire hanger was above the tube. I know Dexter has a "tall" hanger, but I dont believe it is that tall.brian_bp wrote:I realize that it has been months since Andrew's post, but since Esteban has revived the thread...
The Dexter side mount hanger is attached to... the side of the axle bracket. Following that example, why not use an angle (instead of plate) to build a longer side mount hanger with multiple mounting holes, which would not need to be any wider than the stock Dexter parts?
It would take less steel, as the fixed-to-frame (green) part would be something like a 2"x2" angle instead of a 4" wide flat plate, and there would be no fixed-to-axle (red) part required.
There would be a couple less holes to drill per side, and welding to the axle bracket would be eliminated.
The Axis brochures chart shows a minimum 13" difference between the hub face and outside of bracket dimensions and a maximum difference of 21.75".Axis
Mounting and Dimensions: In order to minimize tire wear and axle performance issues Axis recommends that the following guidelines be followed when specifying axles within the 500 to 2,200 lb. The difference between hub face and outside of bracket dimensions...
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Gunguy05 wrote:Does anyone here know if there is a standard (fixed regardless of the bracket and HF measurement) of the torsion arm to bracket clearance. I have a frame measurement of 71 1/8 and a outside cab measurement of 71 3/4. Just wondering if it's going to "rub" the cab with those measurements?
I'm looking at 10 down angle..
Thanks,
alaska teardrop wrote:Gunguy05 wrote:Does anyone here know if there is a standard (fixed regardless of the bracket and HF measurement) of the torsion arm to bracket clearance. I have a frame measurement of 71 1/8 and a outside cab measurement of 71 3/4. Just wondering if it's going to "rub" the cab with those measurements?
I'm looking at 10 down angle..
Thanks,Brian, The difference between the torsion swing arm & the body is dependent on the difference between the outside of the body & the hub face dimensions. Assuming a #9 axle, the dimension from the hub face to the inside of the swing arm is 6.2". I'd recommend a mounting bracket measurement of 71 1/8" & a hub face measurement of 86". 86" - (6.2 x 2) = 73.6" - 71.75" (body) = 1.85" divided by 2 = .9" clearance between body & swing arm on both sides. This should also allow reasonable clearance between the body & a normal size trailer wheel & tire.
Fred
Gunguy05 wrote:alaska teardrop wrote:Gunguy05 wrote:Does anyone here know if there is a standard (fixed regardless of the bracket and HF measurement) of the torsion arm to bracket clearance. I have a frame measurement of 71 1/8 and a outside cab measurement of 71 3/4. Just wondering if it's going to "rub" the cab with those measurements?
I'm looking at 10 down angle..
Thanks,Brian, The difference between the torsion swing arm & the body is dependent on the difference between the outside of the body & the hub face dimensions. Assuming a #9 axle, the dimension from the hub face to the inside of the swing arm is 6.2". I'd recommend a mounting bracket measurement of 71 1/8" & a hub face measurement of 86". 86" - (6.2 x 2) = 73.6" - 71.75" (body) = 1.85" divided by 2 = .9" clearance between body & swing arm on both sides. This should also allow reasonable clearance between the body & a normal size trailer wheel & tire.
Fred
So from what I understand then, the 6.2 is constant for that particular axle, Yes and they increase the length outside the brackets by adding material between the bracket and the swing arm? Yes. The axle tube extends through the bracket to the swing arm. How far depends on the difference between the hub face & bracket dimensions that you call out when ordering.That will make the tires track a little farther to the outside than I had hoped given the backspace of my rims/tires, consider using zero offset trailer wheels. but if that means I don't have to notch the wall cab and can do the 10 degree dn, rather than the 22.5 dn, then I guess I will make that compromise. Because your body is wider than the frame & mounting bracket, you would not have clearance with either start angle at full shock load if you use the minimum overhang (6.5"). Where did you get that 6.2 measurement? Is there some dexter literature I missed somewhere? I looked all over for it, and could find side profiles of everthing, but nothing from the top down view. I no longer have a link that shows the dimension. I guess you'll have to take my word or go measure an axle.
Thanks,
Brian
alaska teardrop wrote:Gunguy05 wrote:alaska teardrop wrote:Gunguy05 wrote:Does anyone here know if there is a standard (fixed regardless of the bracket and HF measurement) of the torsion arm to bracket clearance. I have a frame measurement of 71 1/8 and a outside cab measurement of 71 3/4. Just wondering if it's going to "rub" the cab with those measurements?
I'm looking at 10 down angle..
Thanks,Brian, The difference between the torsion swing arm & the body is dependent on the difference between the outside of the body & the hub face dimensions. Assuming a #9 axle, the dimension from the hub face to the inside of the swing arm is 6.2". I'd recommend a mounting bracket measurement of 71 1/8" & a hub face measurement of 86". 86" - (6.2 x 2) = 73.6" - 71.75" (body) = 1.85" divided by 2 = .9" clearance between body & swing arm on both sides. This should also allow reasonable clearance between the body & a normal size trailer wheel & tire.
Fred
So from what I understand then, the 6.2 is constant for that particular axle, Yes and they increase the length outside the brackets by adding material between the bracket and the swing arm? Yes. The axle tube extends through the bracket to the swing arm. How far depends on the difference between the hub face & bracket dimensions that you call out when ordering.That will make the tires track a little farther to the outside than I had hoped given the backspace of my rims/tires, consider using zero offset trailer wheels. but if that means I don't have to notch the wall cab and can do the 10 degree dn, rather than the 22.5 dn, then I guess I will make that compromise. Because your body is wider than the frame & mounting bracket, you would not have clearance with either start angle at full shock load if you use the minimum overhang (6.5"). Where did you get that 6.2 measurement? Is there some dexter literature I missed somewhere? I looked all over for it, and could find side profiles of everthing, but nothing from the top down view. I no longer have a link that shows the dimension. I guess you'll have to take my word or go measure an axle.
Thanks,
Brian
Fred
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