What did this frame belong to?

Ask questions about Harbor Freight trailers, or questions about building your own...

What did this frame belong to?

Postby absolutsnwbrdr » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:14 am

OK interweb super sleuths.... I know its a long shot, but hey why not ask the question anyway. :thinking:

Anybody have any idea what this frame is from? Recognize the curved front? The rear bumper with angled ends?

17835228_10100441951737692_890160419049440580_o.jpg
17835228_10100441951737692_890160419049440580_o.jpg (192.31 KiB) Viewed 573 times


It was converted to a utility trailer years ago and I acquired it last spring. I'm thinking that its a pop-up from the 60's or 70's. It had a pretty old 1-7/8" coupler, the extendable swing down stabilizers were a style I've never seen, and it looks like there are tabs that were welded on the curved section of tongue which probably held propane tank(s).

I'm finally getting around to cleaning it up a bit. The floor measures 78-1/2" wide by 96" long.

17761056_10100441951787592_163202649297022363_o.jpg
17761056_10100441951787592_163202649297022363_o.jpg (186.58 KiB) Viewed 573 times


Knowing what it started as really isn't all that important, as I will be replacing the coupler and suspension, but I'm just curious. Thanks!
User avatar
absolutsnwbrdr
Donating Member
 
Posts: 2545
Images: 365
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:10 pm
Location: Hanover, PA

Re: What did this frame belong to?

Postby Dale M. » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:24 am

Has a lot of similarities to a popup/tent camp trailer.. Curved front tongue bracing is kind of new one on me but maybe it was built that way to support/protect propane tanks, but the width and boxed wheel wells sort of says popup/tent trailer.. Stabilizers are another clue...

Dale
Lives his life vicariously through his own self.

Any statement made by me are strictly my own opinion.
You are free to ignore anything I say if you do not agree.

Image
User avatar
Dale M.
2000 Club
2000 Club
 
Posts: 2636
Images: 18
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:50 pm
Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite National Park

Re: What did this frame belong to?

Postby Philip » Tue Apr 11, 2017 9:54 am

Older popup camper. I don't think is was one of the big name brands. I have only seen a couple of those frames over the decades.

I bought a frame like that 30 years ago and made a flat deck out of it. The guy told me there wasn't any name tags on the camper before he stripped it off.
Philip
Teardrop Master
 
Posts: 216
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:57 am
Location: Peru,Indiana
Top

Re: What did this frame belong to?

Postby absolutsnwbrdr » Tue Apr 11, 2017 8:39 pm

Clues! Was cleaning up the tongue to replace the coupler and came across some numbers stamped in under all the dirt, paint, and rust.

1965
48682

FB_IMG_1491961948191.jpg
FB_IMG_1491961948191.jpg (179.74 KiB) Viewed 498 times
User avatar
absolutsnwbrdr
Donating Member
 
Posts: 2545
Images: 365
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:10 pm
Location: Hanover, PA
Top

Re: What did this frame belong to?

Postby Dale M. » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:01 am

Year and chassis ID number, predecessor to today's VIN...

Dale
Lives his life vicariously through his own self.

Any statement made by me are strictly my own opinion.
You are free to ignore anything I say if you do not agree.

Image
User avatar
Dale M.
2000 Club
2000 Club
 
Posts: 2636
Images: 18
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:50 pm
Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite National Park
Top

Re: What did this frame belong to?

Postby aggie79 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:31 am

Horse/livestock trailer (with running boards)?
Tom (& Linda)
For more on our Silver Beatle teardrop:
Build Thread

93503
User avatar
aggie79
Super Duper Lifetime Member
 
Posts: 4838
Images: 666
Joined: Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:42 pm
Location: Fort Worth, Texas
Top

Re: What did this frame belong to?

Postby absolutsnwbrdr » Wed Apr 12, 2017 11:48 am

Dale M. wrote:Year and chassis ID number, predecessor to today's VIN...

Dale


Yup, exactly. Now to try to figure out make and model.

aggie79 wrote:Horse/livestock trailer (with running boards)?


I'd be afraid to load this up with too much weight. Don't know if it looks quite stout enough for that.



Isn't there a way to estimate leaf spring capacity based on the number of leaves and the span?
User avatar
absolutsnwbrdr
Donating Member
 
Posts: 2545
Images: 365
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:10 pm
Location: Hanover, PA
Top

Re: What did this frame belong to?

Postby KCStudly » Wed Apr 12, 2017 12:59 pm

Axle tube diameter usually gets you at least into the range of load ratings.

Spring width, thickness, length and leaf count can be useful clues, too.

Not a horse trailer, those things are massively built.
KC
My Build: The Poet Creek Express Hybrid Foamie

Poet Creek Or Bust
Engineering the TLAR way - "That Looks About Right"
TnTTT ORIGINAL 200A LANTERN CLUB = "The 200A Gang"
Green Lantern Corpsmen
User avatar
KCStudly
Donating Member
 
Posts: 8950
Images: 8051
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:18 pm
Location: Southeastern CT, USA
Top

Re: What did this frame belong to?

Postby Dale M. » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:41 am

KCStudly wrote:Axle tube diameter usually gets you at least into the range of load ratings.

Spring width, thickness, length and leaf count can be useful clues, too.

Not a horse trailer, those things are massively built.


I get impression (from pic) it has solid steel (maybe 1.5 inch square) dropped axle typical of early "travel trailers"... Not a tube axle...

Dale
Lives his life vicariously through his own self.

Any statement made by me are strictly my own opinion.
You are free to ignore anything I say if you do not agree.

Image
User avatar
Dale M.
2000 Club
2000 Club
 
Posts: 2636
Images: 18
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2005 8:50 pm
Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite National Park
Top

Re: What did this frame belong to?

Postby KCStudly » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:10 pm

All I could see was the xmbr blocking the view of the axle. :thinking:
KC
My Build: The Poet Creek Express Hybrid Foamie

Poet Creek Or Bust
Engineering the TLAR way - "That Looks About Right"
TnTTT ORIGINAL 200A LANTERN CLUB = "The 200A Gang"
Green Lantern Corpsmen
User avatar
KCStudly
Donating Member
 
Posts: 8950
Images: 8051
Joined: Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:18 pm
Location: Southeastern CT, USA
Top

Re: What did this frame belong to?

Postby Philip » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:20 pm

The axle under the frame I bought was a square axle. It was cast iron also. The hub had a 3" drop. I replaced that axle with a straight round tube axle. I needed the extra height for what I was doing.

That frame had nice welds in the amount it should have. No light tack welds anywhere. No skipped spaces on cross member welds. Full weld on each one.
Philip
Teardrop Master
 
Posts: 216
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:57 am
Location: Peru,Indiana
Top

Re: What did this frame belong to?

Postby absolutsnwbrdr » Mon Apr 24, 2017 8:19 am

Sorry guys forgot about this thread. :?


Its a straight axle, but not sure of its size, or if its solid or not. I'll have to crawl under and see how the spindles extend from the ends of the axle. Its not a U-channel, and its not a round axle. Definitely square, but not very large - maybe 1" or 1-1/2". More info to come...
User avatar
absolutsnwbrdr
Donating Member
 
Posts: 2545
Images: 365
Joined: Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:10 pm
Location: Hanover, PA
Top

Re: What did this frame belong to?

Postby Philip » Mon Apr 24, 2017 2:38 pm

The frame I had the axle was 1.250 square. I was going to extend it. That is when I found it was cast. :thumbdown:
Philip
Teardrop Master
 
Posts: 216
Joined: Thu Jun 09, 2016 3:57 am
Location: Peru,Indiana
Top


Return to Trailer and Chassis Secrets

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests