Glenlivets 6X10 cargo toy hauler conversion

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Re: Glenlivets 6X10 cargo toy hauler conversion

Postby Iconfabul8 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:05 pm

sodatrain wrote:THANK YOU for the detail on your awesome folding bed setup. :applause: :beer:

How are you seeing Glenlivets pictures?
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Re: Glenlivets 6X10 cargo toy hauler conversion

Postby sodatrain » Fri Jan 05, 2018 10:00 pm

Iconfabul8 wrote:
sodatrain wrote:THANK YOU for the detail on your awesome folding bed setup. :applause: :beer:

How are you seeing Glenlivets pictures?


Some work. Some don't. Like page 1 photos work.


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Re: Glenlivets 6X10 cargo toy hauler conversion

Postby haldane » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:52 pm

This is a great build!
I am working on a design for my own 6x10 cargo conversion. I am trying to keep it as light as possible so that it can be pulled with a minivan. I want to keep the weight well under 3500 lbs - in my mind, the lower, the better. In addition, I need to keep the costs low.
I have a few ideas to bounce off of you, or anyone else on this thread who has been thinking about these things. I want to do as much of the build myself as possible, but I am considering asking the manufacturer to do some of the prep work that would be more challenging:
1. I am leaning towards a 6x10 tandem axle, instead of a single axle. Although it is not necessary for cargo capacity, I have read that tandem axles tow much better, are safer, and come equipped with electric brakes. These are all big advantages for me, travelling with kids, and a non-ideal tow vehicle. The tandem axle adds some to the cost and weight, but the advantages seem to outweigh the disadvantages.
2. I am considering asking the manufacturer to replace the 3/8 plywood on the walls with Luan. Usually, plywood is considered an upgrade, but also adds considerable weight. This would mean that anything I want to mount would have to go into the studs or other framing, but I don't think that is such a bad thing. My only concern is whether the plywood itself is important to the structural integrity of the trailer.
3. I am considering having the manufacturer install my somewhat large, pop-out european style windows. I assume to maintain the structural integrity of the trailer, the windows have to be framed up to compensate for cutting the framing. Was this your experience?
4. I do not need any cargo capacity. I am therefore considering asking the manufacturer to replace the back cargo door(s) with a wall, and place the RV-style door in the back, which better accommodates my interior design. (Note: the windows are designed to double as escape hatches). What do you think of this type of scenario?

I realize that some of these are personal design issues, but I am curious if there are any fundamental errors in my reasoning. Thank you!

BTW, I am using the fix suggested here to view all the photos- the Chrome solution works like a charm!
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Thanks again for your excellent post and exciting build!
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Re: Glenlivets 6X10 cargo toy hauler conversion

Postby Padilen » Mon Mar 12, 2018 6:40 pm

That's a lot of capacity for a 6x10. Usually under 14' is single and just fine. Brakes are standard with 3500 #axles. And can be added to axles with backing plate or custom ordered on most axles.
Most non alluminum trailers don't really have much in the way of "studs" to mount things too. That's why many perfer the plywood.

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Re: Glenlivets 6X10 cargo toy hauler conversion

Postby haldane » Tue Mar 13, 2018 9:16 am

Padilen wrote:That's a lot of capacity for a 6x10. Usually under 14' is single and just fine. Brakes are standard with 3500 #axles. And can be added to axles with backing plate or custom ordered on most axles.
Most non alluminum trailers don't really have much in the way of "studs" to mount things too. That's why many perfer the plywood.

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Thank you for your reply! I agree that a single axle would be fine for a 6x10 - but in the case of a blowout at 65mph on the highway - wouldn't a tandem be much, much safer?
I realize that I should have likely posted this in a new thread with my question, rather than resurrecting this ancient one. I am going to start a new thread, including your response, and some CAD drawings I have been working on. Thanks again!!
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Re: Glenlivets 6X10 cargo toy hauler conversion

Postby Padilen » Tue Mar 13, 2018 6:51 pm

You may find you will ruin tires with a short tandem. You'll be sliding not rolling tires in tight turns. Blowouts can be controlled with single axles. Tandems let you remove a wheel and still be able to travel. I don't see the need for tandems when your not concerned with weight carrying capacity.

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Re: Glenlivets 6X10 cargo toy hauler conversion

Postby billbob412 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 8:19 pm

I agree with Padilen on this .I have both single axle and double axle trailers, on a short trailer like you are considering 2 axles will put huge strain on everything, tires get dragged sideways, if you have concerns about blowouts with 4 tires you have twice the chance as with two. I have 6 trailers with double axles and 3 with single. There's no way i would ever buy a 6x10 with anything but single axle.If your TV is not heavy enough to deal with a blowout consider a friction sway control.that will help in the unlikely event of a blowout. The biggest plus for a single axle on small trailers is being able to move them around easily, less roiling resistance, Less weight, less tires to buy ! Thats my story and i'm stickin to it. :) Others may have a different opinion.
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Re: Glenlivets 6X10 cargo toy hauler conversion

Postby haldane » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:40 am

I really appreciate both of those replies. Those aspect (i.e. dragging wheels) are non-obvious without experience (I only have had one single axle teardrop). Based on your input, it is back to a single axle design for me- which makes the design much easier.
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Re: Glenlivets 6X10 cargo toy hauler conversion

Postby haldane » Wed Mar 14, 2018 11:41 am

I like the advice about a friction sway control; I plan to add one.
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