2013 Mirage XPO 6x12- Mt Air Express

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Re: 2013 Mirage XPO 6x12- Mt Air Express

Postby hankaye » Tue Jun 25, 2019 7:16 pm

Rainier70, Howdy;

I think you are doing an extreamly outstanding job with the new trailer. The lessons
you learned from the first are showing with this one.
:thumbsup: , :thumbsup: , :D .

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Re: 2017 Mirage XPO 7x16- Mt Air Express

Postby Rainier70 » Wed Jun 26, 2019 11:46 am

Thanks, Hank! This build is considerably different since I built it as a camper only and not to haul the motorcycles. That alone makes a huge difference in floor plan and design possibilities. This one is just to keep me in comfort while adventuring.

One other thing that I have found very helpful is a shoe organizer next to the door. It's great for collecting all of the "stuff" that seems to go in and out and otherwise ends up on a counter somewhere. I have all kinds of things collecting in mine; binoculars, a weather radio, flashlight, hand sanitizer, wipes, levels, sunglasses, reading glasses, camera, phone, keys and on and on. :? Oh and occasionally a few shoes. :lol:

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My magnetic mosquito net "screen door" is tied back out of the way next to it.
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Re: 2013 Mirage XPO 6x12- Mt Air Express

Postby brianjonesphoto » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:06 pm

Hi Cindy
I just spend the time to read trough your build thread. Lots of good ideas. Thanks for contributing to the collective.

I’m leaning heavily towards a mirage trailer as they seem well built, readily available in the northwest and priced competitively. Besides the fake screws is there anything you regret about the way mirage builds their trailers? I will be doing a custom order so it will spec real screws.

Secondly I see you when with much bigger windows on your bigger trailer. I was thinking 22x30 windows, but only to save a bit of money. Now I’m thinking I should just do a pair 46x22 windows over the axles. Any experienced input would be appreciated.

For an 18footer do you feel 2 roof vents are needed? I was thinking of having 2 vents one possibly a maxxair mainly for the rain protection and maybe I’ll use your computer fan idea for the other.

Thanks for your time.




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Re: Mirage XPO-7X16 Mt Air Express

Postby Rainier70 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:41 pm

Over all I like the Mirage trailers. Like most trailer manufacturers the quality may depend on what day of the week and who worked on it.

With the new one we had to take it back to the dealer to have the rear doors aligned, one was set in slightly crooked so it leaked. They repaired it quickly. Other than that it has been pretty good. I do like that they use full box ribs. I think that they are stronger than the z or c ribs, and I like the plywood walls better than strand board.

Other things we redid: Paint the ribs behind the walls and undercoat the frame. Their paint on the frame chips easily, and the frame starts to rust quickly if you don't. We also replaced the scotch locks that they used on the wiring and lined the wire holders (washers) so that the wires don't rub. I pretty much consider those issues standard with just about every trailer manufacturer.

With both of our trailers we bought off the lot, because we needed it sooner than a custom build could be delivered. Mirage has good prices on their windows. I can't remember the size, if I remember I will measure them tomorrow. We bought our windows from Mirage and put them in ourselves. My husband is a retired welder, fitter etc so it was easy for us to put the framing in for the windows and the vents.

We are using a Heng fan in the front vent with a rain cover. The rear vent is just regular. The fan in the front is strong enough to push or pull air in or out of the other vent or the windows. When I am cooking I open the window behind the stove and put the fan that is in the front vent on reverse medium, so that it pushes everything right out the window. I don't have to use my extra computer fan for ventilation at all. I do like having both vents, but I don't use the one in the back as much. The one in the front is almost always open a few inches since it has a rain cover.
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Re: 2013 Mirage XPO 6x12- Mt Air Express

Postby Rainier70 » Mon Nov 11, 2019 8:20 pm

Yes, our windows are the larger ones. 46 X 22. I do love the large windows. They take up some wall space, but are well worth it.

Just a quick add: The screens on my windows slide also. So with the larger size they can be a handy pass through or an emergency exit if needed.
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Re: 2013 Mirage XPO 6x12- Mt Air Express

Postby BC Dave » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:04 pm

Rainier70 wrote::...... It works well, and we were very comfortable camping in it last year. One of the "must do's" for this spring is the underfloor insulation. At times in the high mountains my feet froze even with some temporary foam flooring and rugs! :frightened:

One of the features I forgot to include in my pictures is my NuWay 2000 propane stove. http://nuwaystove.com/product-category/propane-stove/ It has keep me warm in some very low temperatures. And being a vented system it doesn't put any fumes or moisture into the camper.

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I have it set up so that it draws its intake air from outside through the bottom and its exhaust out the upper side wall. When traveling its pipes are pulled in and the openings which are 4 inch marine deck plates are closed to keep all dust out. You can see the deckplate plugs on the corner of the counter.

The heatshields behind the stove are insulated "air bake style" cookie sheets. They work absolutely awesome as heatshields!

And yes, the stove and taping do need a coat of high temp paint. My list of to dos is very very long!


Just checking in, don't hang here often; scanning through posts and catching up … nice to see your improvements!

Nice stove setup; sounds safe; good. Have you kept that running at night? I mostly turn my propane off at night and if I do keep it on its really cold and I have a window cracked
Floor insulation … AND shower and storage cupboards; im jealous but then again you have 24 more inches to work (& play) with.

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Re: 2013 Mirage XPO 6x12- Mt Air Express

Postby Rainier70 » Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:21 pm

BC Dave,
It's good to hear from you. Yep, I sure like the extra room in this camper.

Most of the time I run the stove before I go to bed and when I get up in the morning. That is more for fuel economy, and that I like to sleep cooler. But there have been some really cold nights at 7 to 9K feet elevation that I have run it all night. Or I may start it at 1 or 2 am if it is really cold when I happen to get up for other business.

With the air intake that I added on the bottom of the stove, if it goes out for some reason, any gases or fumes would go out of the camper. I also have a vent that is always open for fresh air.

I have done a lot of experimenting with the stove like blowing it out and timing how long the safety valve takes to shut it down at different temperatures. It shuts down pretty fast and every bit of the gas goes straight out of the camper. I will always be careful of any stove, but I am not worried about running this one if I need to at night.
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Re: 2013 Mirage XPO 6x12- Mt Air Express

Postby Gonefishin » Fri Mar 20, 2020 7:46 am

That's quite a nice home away from home, with all the ammenities. I think about an extra foot of width with a couple feet of length every year. Then I tow the old 6X12 around for thousands of miles, up and down the hills, in and out of tight places, zooming around in the wind, and decide its just enough space anyway. Old? Did I just call my trailer old? Its been exactly 10 years now, almost to the day!

I still have my Dickinson heater, the best thing I ever did to the trailer (Thanks BC Dave!) I run it all night when needed, which was often clear into summer last year, with no worries. I can adjust the flame according to how much heat I think I'll need, and I've gotten pretty good at guaging the right setting before bed. Only thing I've worn out is the pressure regulators that go onto the tank. I've gone through three of those.

I like the looks of that Nuway. Dual purpose. And the rest of your expanded home looks great. I wouldn't expect anything less. Starting to get the itch, even though I'm looking out at 5 inches of new snow. ❄ Won't be too long now though. The creeks should have plenty of water!
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