Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

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Re: Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

Postby MtnDon » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:33 am

I did it the easy way. :D I bought the window (ebay) before we ordered the trailer. The order spec'd the size and placement. Lark framed it in welded steel tubing. They supplied the rounded corner filler blocks which are some kind of plastic. I think that cost something like $70 and was worth it. I had thought about doing it myself but this took almost no time once I verified the framing was correctly sized.
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Re: Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

Postby hankaye » Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:00 am

MtDon, Howdy;

You be smarter than the average Bear !!!! :thumbsup:

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Re: Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

Postby lrrowe » Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:17 am

Another great idea if you know exactly where you want the window placed. Obviously you did. I will not know until I can layout a blue tape interior.
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Re: Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

Postby MtnDon » Mon Feb 03, 2014 2:59 pm

I made drawings first. Then we folded the ping pong table in the game room, shoved it and a few things aside to have a blank and clear wall. Blue tape was applied to indicate where the ceiling would be. Blue tape on the floor to indicate where the opposite wall would be. I made a cardboard cutout for the fridge, sink and counter. Tape on the floor for bed and shower. Another cardboard cutout for the window and we moved it around. We left it all there for a week or so and tweaked it.
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Re: Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

Postby lrrowe » Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:20 pm

Good idea about a wall being used. I had already planned for the tape on the floor, but not a window concept on a wall. I think I will look for a spot to try this myself.
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Re: Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

Postby zowens40870 » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:11 pm

Hey MntDon,
Just tuned in to your build, its looking good. Love the door in the V nose, along with the moving dolly. Thanks alot for all of your help!
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Re: Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

Postby roadinspector » Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:51 pm

Really looking MtnDon!
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Re: Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

Postby MtnDon » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:42 pm

An update. The rear section of the floor...

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I did that this morning and took this picture part way through. The frame spaces have been infilled with tight fitting 2" polyisocyanurate. Some of the frame cross members are channel, some are 2x4 rectangular tube. Where there was a channel the foam was fitted into the C-section. I used pieces of 2x4 ripped to fit tightly under the polyiso in the channel. Screws and construction adhesive was used to hold the wood in place. Other section were screwed and glued to the other cross members places to support the polyiso up flush with the frame top.

Then a second layer of 2" polyiso was cut and fitted to fir on top of the frame. Polyiso is rated to be able to support 20 PSI under a floor or under concrete; my cals indicate there should be no issues here. Then the 3/4 plywood that the trailer came with was refitted and screwed down with new longer screws. It was cut sort of loosey goosey, but I'll fill and cover those gaps when more insulation is applied to the inner side of the walls. For the curious let it be noted I cut the foam on the table saw or with a hand held circular saw finishing the cuts with a knife as necessary.

I'm working my way forward to the front. The front will have a 1" layer of foam on top of the frame with the 3/4 plywood on top of that. The rear section will be under the bed so there will be no step up/down to trip over. It is a compromise for headroom where we will be able to stand. The floor insulation will be thicker under the fridge, shower and the counter space in the front left of the vee.
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Re: Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

Postby OverTheTopCargoTrailer » Sat Feb 08, 2014 6:56 pm

:R :R Don't forget to drill some 8" holes so we can go Ice Fishing :R :R
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Re: Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

Postby MtnDon » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:02 pm

Removed the front portion of the floor...

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... and then insulated between frame members, then polyiso on top and put the plywood back. Didn't think to take progress photos. I also installed more wire loom than the factory did... the split variety with silicone tape binding.


I also built this thing. Any guesses?

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How it is mounted

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Re: Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

Postby lrrowe » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:49 pm

Propane tank holder on front angle, drivers side looking back.
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Re: Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

Postby MtnDon » Mon Feb 10, 2014 8:58 pm

Yessir Bob! :)

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I ran out of paint. Since the photo I capped the near end of the 1x2 tube

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Re: Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

Postby Gonefishin » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:15 pm

Slick! :thumbsup: Im moving mine back and forth from my pickup. :thumbdown:
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Re: Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

Postby lrrowe » Mon Feb 10, 2014 9:58 pm

Don, does this mean I need to learn how to weld?
So when I come up with great ideas like this, I can just go do it?
Nice job.
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Re: Don & Karen's 6 x 12 Deep Vee Front CT

Postby MtnDon » Mon Feb 10, 2014 10:11 pm

Having a welder is handy for this sort of thing. Otherwise I don't know where I'd put the propane on this trailer. There's nothing off the shelf that would work.

You are a bit too far to the east to drop by here. ;)


Looks like we were in your neighborhood a couple years back though.... Elk Creek, Galax, Wytheville. I would like to get back there again.
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