If I were in the States...........

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If I were in the States...........

Postby MickinOz » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:48 pm

For the price and spec, there couldn't be much better than this for making a TD.

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools ... _200671885

You'd take it home and start installing side doors and galley/bunk dividing wall.
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Re: If I were in the States...........

Postby John61CT » Fri Sep 13, 2019 11:31 pm

POS quality, would likely fail a roadworthy over there.

Better off saving a grand just buy the bare under chassis, reinforce it put a foamie on top.

IMO
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Re: If I were in the States...........

Postby MickinOz » Sat Sep 14, 2019 1:13 am

That bad eh? Shame.
They look the ducks nuts.
The ordinary bolt together trailers are available here ($949 for rigid 8 x 5, pass roadworthy too) but not these.

What's not available here, and I've searched endlessly, is 8 x 4 extruded polystyrene foam sheets.
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Re: If I were in the States...........

Postby RJ Howell » Sat Sep 14, 2019 6:15 am

John61CT wrote:POS quality, would likely fail a roadworthy over there.
IMO


You have/had one? Not much not to like about it.. Only thing I couldn't find was steel frame thickness.

2" x 3" Tube A-Frame Tongue
2" x 3" Tube Main Frame
2" A-Frame Coupler with Safety Chains
2,000 lb. Rated Top Wind Jack
3,500 lb. Rated Idler Axle
3-Leaf Springs
205X15 Tire and Wheel Assemblies
White Mod Wheels
Smooth Aluminum Fenders
24" Frame On Center
24" Wall On Center
24" Roof On Center
3/4" Plywood Floor
1/8" Luan Interior Walls
Single Rear Door
16" Front Stone Guard
LED Lighting Package
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Re: If I were in the States...........

Postby hankaye » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:33 am

MickinOz, Howdy;

Some folks here (USA), will throw their nose out of joint at any products from
Northern Tool or any of the other "mail order" tool companies. They also figure
that Crocodile Dundee's back yard is what ALL of Oz is like :roll:

Do you know anyone that has one of those trailers "down unda"? Perhaps you
could contact the Carry On trailers folks and ask who makes it for them or just
ask about frame material thickness. Here's a link;
https://www.carry-ontrailer.com/contact/

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Re: If I were in the States...........

Postby RJ Howell » Sat Sep 14, 2019 12:31 pm

hankaye wrote:Some folks here (USA), will throw their nose out of joint at any products from
Northern Tool
hank


I agree! I just wrote them and asked. I'm just that kind of curious.

Just because they had a good marketing plan, got into Northern Tool, Lowes, Tractor Supply (to name a few), does not mean they're junk.
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Re: If I were in the States...........

Postby John61CT » Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:45 pm

Well personally I only buy stuff from Harbor Freight or Northern Tools if I won't be using it much and won't care if it falls apart.

Sometimes I'm pleasantly surprised, but it's rare.

Consumers care so much about low price, 99.99% of the time, when a cheap Chinese maker builds to that preferred price point, you're not going to get a quality product to last for decades.

By taking the approach I suggest, the under chassis can easily be replaced later on, just shift your living pod over to the new one.
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Re: If I were in the States...........

Postby RJ Howell » Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:05 pm

John61CT wrote:Well personally I only buy stuff from Harbor Freight or Northern Tools if I won't be using it much and won't care if it falls apart.


Issue here is that without further research, you shot it down. I took the extra effort and reached out to find what the steel thickness is. I will not not make a statement based upon from whom it is sold until I know. I do suggest, before posting, a little effort of research should happen (even if not asked).

In marketing a product, of which I'm familiar, you go for exposure so folks see what you have to offer. It doesn't necessarily mean it's crap... it's exposure.
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Re: If I were in the States...........

Postby John61CT » Sat Sep 14, 2019 3:50 pm

Marketing is evil deception.
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Re: If I were in the States...........

Postby McDave » Sat Sep 14, 2019 4:40 pm

Ha ha!
"the ducks nuts." :lol:
That's a new one on me!
As with most things, you probably get what you pay for. If you are lucky. Quality vs. Price it's Ok. but at 4 1/2 feet tall.... my back couldn't take it.

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Re: If I were in the States...........

Postby hankaye » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:13 pm

John61CT, Howdy;

It stands to reason that the Chinese are not making the trailers and shipping them over here. It would be an American
manufacturer and if you used any kind of thought process you might have realized it on your own. Read the info on their
site or just contact them following this link; https://www.carry-ontrailer.com/contact/

John61CT wrote:Marketing is evil deception.


Marketing is geared for folks to make informed decisions about products, granted with a bias built in, but
if a person is not a contractor and needs a tool to complete a job would you expect them to pay a premium
price for something they may only use once or a few times(?), or something reasonably priced and they won't
be really upset if it breaks. Think that through, no really think it through, please.

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Re: If I were in the States...........

Postby flboy » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:18 pm

All I can say is that good enough is good enough sometimes. I always decide on the quality/price point based on how much I plan to use something, or how critical it is to safety. Don't go cheap on a Scuba Diving Regulator or a trailer brake controller for instance. May be able to cut some corners on how you decide to put a floor in your CTC or what brand Solar Controller you buy if you are trying to save a few bucks to spend elsewhere or that is all you have and need something. Just sayin.
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Re: If I were in the States...........

Postby MickinOz » Sun Sep 15, 2019 4:55 am

RJ Howell wrote:
John61CT wrote:POS quality, would likely fail a roadworthy over there.
IMO


You have/had one? Not much not to like about it.. Only thing I couldn't find was steel frame thickness.

2" x 3" Tube A-Frame Tongue
2" x 3" Tube Main Frame
2" A-Frame Coupler with Safety Chains
2,000 lb. Rated Top Wind Jack
3,500 lb. Rated Idler Axle
3-Leaf Springs
205X15 Tire and Wheel Assemblies
White Mod Wheels
Smooth Aluminum Fenders
24" Frame On Center
24" Wall On Center
24" Roof On Center
3/4" Plywood Floor
1/8" Luan Interior Walls
Single Rear Door
16" Front Stone Guard
LED Lighting Package


That's what got me - that is a lot of stuff for less than $2000 in ~ 5 x 8.
The measurements suggest you'd fit not a 4 foot caravan double, but a real a 4 ft 6 inch full height innerspring mattress and still have ample head room.

McDave wrote:Ha ha!
"the ducks nuts." :lol:
That's a new one on me!
As with most things, you probably get what you pay for. If you are lucky. Quality vs. Price it's Ok. but at 4 1/2 feet tall.... my back couldn't take it.

McDave


Must be an Aussie/Kiwi thing. Very common expression down here. ;) if it's the "Duck's Nuts" it is very good. There is even a brand of trail mix called the "Duck's Nuts" sold at the supermarkets.
As for the height, it'd be slightly better than a standard TD?
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Re: If I were in the States...........

Postby MickinOz » Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:16 am

hankaye wrote:MickinOz, Howdy;

They also figure that Crocodile Dundee's back yard is what ALL of Oz is like :roll:
hank


Ha ha. I've been to Mick Dundee's back yard.
Mosquitoes, crocodiles, snakes, dingoes, water buffalo.

Important note: them water buffalo do not do what they did for Mick Dundee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiysE15Bq0k

I suggest the proper way to deal with a buffalo involves a minimum of 0.270 WIN and a decent telescopic sight.
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Re: If I were in the States...........

Postby RJ Howell » Sun Sep 15, 2019 6:23 am

hankaye wrote:Marketing is geared for folks to make informed decisions about products,
Think that through, no really think it through, please.

hank


+1 Marketing is everywhere, else, how would you know a product exists? Guess that makes 'all' products 'evil'...
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