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Use a DO during fire ban?

Postby desertmoose » Tue Apr 12, 2011 10:55 pm

Hey guys.

Sam and Kat here. We picked up a couple DO's a few years ago, but they have seen limited use. The reason is due to Nevada shuts down all fires, including charcoal, for most of the year unless you go to a developed campground. :(

Since we boondock most of the time, we are limited to propane or coleman gas stoves.

We finally bought a propane campfire. Nowhere as nice as a real fire, but better than nothing.

Now our question: Is there a way to use a DO with propane/ coleman fuel? How would you get the heat on top of the DO?

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Postby madjack » Tue Apr 12, 2011 11:19 pm

...with one of these...
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...or if more heat is needed, one of these...
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...of course, if it's REALLY windy or cold, you could use one of these...
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Postby High Desert » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:15 pm

Sam, I have wondered if the charcoal and DO were used inside one of those round charcaol BBQs and keeping it someplace like the bed of the pickup would be enough to fit inside the restrictions? Contained, not on the ground or out in the open where it could easily spread at least. Just thinking out loud of course. Life in the dr country, huh? :thinking:
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Postby daveleb55 » Wed Apr 13, 2011 11:54 pm

We also struggle with the NV Fire ban. We have found that the dome that Camp Chef offers controls the top heat and works well with propane or coleman stoves. What part of NV are you in?
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Postby bobhenry » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:29 am

Man they arn't messin' around........

http://forestry.nv.gov/2010/07/fire-restrictions-starting-july-16-2010/

and you can only smoke in your car :oops:

I wonder if you have to leave the windows up while having a cigarette ?

I did see one little loop hole.... " except by permit "

Pretty sad we have to beg for special dispensation to cook a meal.

Too many idiots out there not paying attention to what they are doing I guess. :thinking:
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Thanks for the responses

Postby desertmoose » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:50 am

Madjack: Your post reminds me of the time I tried deep frying a turkey one Thanksgiving. I have a big stainless pot, and a propane burner for melting lead. Thought I'd use them and save buying a frying kit. Thanksgiving arrived, family came over, and I took the newly purchased peanut oil out to the middle of a clearing. fired up the burner and waited until the oil came to temp. Carefully eased the bird into the oil. Checked the oil temp and it dropped, then kept dropping. The burner couldn't keep up with the bird and a light breeze that had developed. Envisioning an oil soaked mess instead of a crispy fried bird, I looked for a supplementary source of heat. Spotted the weed burner and took it to the clearing. Worked great, and actually was fun. The best part was my youngest son. He ran into the house and reported to the gals that "Dad has a FLAMETHROWER!!!!"

Shaun: I wouldn't advise trying the charcoal, even in the back of a truck. The BLM guys I have met have very little in the way of a sense of what's reasonable. I still remember the first time they put up the requirement that you carry an axe, shovel, and a gallon of water. I was riding a dirt bike. The guy let me go without a ticket, but we had an unpleasant conversation about carrying all that. I still haven't found out what actually meets the requirements for an "axe" and a "shovel" Would a hatchet work? what about a garden trowel? Does it have to be two handled? The gallon of water is pretty clear, but what is it for? It would have to be a pretty small fire to be able to put it out with a gallon. Maybe it's to drink after you stomp the fire to death.

Dave: I've been looking at the dome. Hate to buy something that really doesn't work, so was looking for some feedback from someone that has used one. Might have to try it. We're in the south Carson/ North Minden area. Are you the Tearjerkers Nevada Chapter Directors? Kat and I have signed up even though we just started building our tear.

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Postby caseydog » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:57 am

High Desert wrote:Sam, I have wondered if the charcoal and DO were used inside one of those round charcaol BBQs and keeping it someplace like the bed of the pickup would be enough to fit inside the restrictions? Contained, not on the ground or out in the open where it could easily spread at least. Just thinking out loud of course. Life in the dr country, huh? :thinking:


Here in Texas, if there is burn ban in your county, you can not use any heat source that can not be turned off instantly.

Charcoal, even in a closed container, is not allowed.

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Postby caseydog » Thu Apr 14, 2011 10:59 am

BTW, The Texas Forrest Service has a map that is updated daily for burn bans in Texas. It is a great resource for outdoor cookers...

http://tfsfrp.tamu.edu/wildfires/DecBan.png


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Postby CAJUN LADY » Thu Apr 14, 2011 12:33 pm

Sorry this is so small but the normal size pic was too large. I've used this Dutch Cap a few times and it works fine. Really handy if there is a wind problem. You can go to my 'www' site and look on page 13 for a bigger picture.

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Re: Thanks for the responses

Postby High Desert » Fri Apr 15, 2011 9:53 pm

desertmoose wrote:Shaun: I wouldn't advise trying the charcoal, even in the back of a truck. The BLM guys I have met have very little in the way of a sense of what's reasonable. I still remember the first time they put up the requirement that you carry an axe, shovel, and a gallon of water. I was riding a dirt bike. The guy let me go without a ticket, but we had an unpleasant conversation about carrying all that. I still haven't found out what actually meets the requirements for an "axe" and a "shovel" Would a hatchet work? what about a garden trowel? Does it have to be two handled? The gallon of water is pretty clear, but what is it for? It would have to be a pretty small fire to be able to put it out with a gallon. Maybe it's to drink after you stomp the fire to death.
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I'm sure you're right Sam. They get twitchy pretty fast when there is any kind of smoke during the dry months.

Thats a funny story about your encounter while on the bike, though I'm sure at the time it tested your patience. Part of our gear in camp is a metal 5 gallon bucket, shovel and axe. But on a bike? Seems like that would mean every vehicle passing through the area would need the same gear lol.

Sounds like there are some ideas for using the DO in other ways. May have to try them at home once the weather levels out.
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Postby nevadatear » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:07 pm

The good news in Nevada is we have had record precipitation this year, and for once do not have have a drought, so at least this year the fire restrictions should be minimal!
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Postby High Desert » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:18 pm

nevadatear wrote:The good news in Nevada is we have had record precipitation this year, and for once do not have have a drought, so at least this year the fire restrictions should be minimal!
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Postby halfdome, Danny » Fri Apr 15, 2011 10:35 pm

We have a 10" & a 12" lodge Dutch Oven but don't like the hassle and mess charcoal presents.
We Dutch Oven cook all the time without charcoal. We have a Camp Chief stove and oven and a 13" Lodge chicken fryer with matching lid that turns into a Dutch Oven. Takes about an hour just like as if we were cooking with coals but the propane does the cooking. It fits nice and snug in the oven. The fryer and lid both have handles so they can be used individually. We do most of our cooking with these two items. :D Danny

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