Tiny House vs. RV Why?

[2bits]

Speaking of that, I would love an underground house. CD have you seen the one on Buckner Blvd? Pretty cool.

[cuyeda]

How about making a home out of a shipping container. Don't know your criteria for affordable housing. Just something to ponder.

Shipping container homes

[slowcowboy]

Slow is starting to get the bug on this idea.

women are in short supply and don't come around very often. might be 10 more years before we get a woman to come around and stay more than a day.


I keep coming back to the little house idea.

for one thing ITS a house! not a rv!

I have lived in a motor home before on a ranch job.

and they are way hard to keep heated.

the little house is 20 times way more insulated and low to the ground.

the motor homes are up in the air and have walls the thickness of paper!!!

its a easy way for a single guy to say Hay I have my own house and its brand new on hardly any money.


for me it would not move around enough to be a problem its small enough to be out of the way on the ranch.

and wanta be the envy of your camping neigbors when you want to go live at the lake for a week or 2 and fish for a while in style?


it would make a great hunting camp. a great place to live on a hunk of farm land your renting while you hay or farm till you drop with out having to run home.

make a great cow camp.

vacation home on some bare acrearge.

cabin in the woods.


the list of possibiltys goes on.

oil feild workers would die for one of these things.

they are living away from home faceing record high rents and no place to rent availbe and living in rvs in the companys yard at work or out in man camps in the prarrie.

they would love one of these single guy dewellings to work out of and live miles from where they normaly live on there days off.

I could see north dakota or rocksprings wyoming with these type of houses sprouting up all out across the prarrie land scape.

Oil feild hands live in rvs for long extend periods of time and they normaly don't move them much in a year.

cold wind is a big problem in oil field rv living quartsers situations.

this is a way bettor insulated thing than a rv.

for me till I am married than if the new wife could squeese in with me till we get a normal house. it would work like a charm.

be a escuse to a prospective woman that I have my own abode.

and if I wanted to do a job in some other area be easy just to up and move the house.

If I was to buy a hunk of farm land it would be way easy to live on land and shuttle back and forth to take care of dad and mom on there place.

get tired of the folks and just hook on the house and go over to the new farm ground and live for a while.

slowcowboy.

[eamarquardt]

When is the last time you have seen a home being built with let in wind bracing. Where a 2x4 ( or 1x4) was diagonally cut into the wall studs to provide triangulization to eleminate sway in the length of the wall. This practice died in the 40's thanks to the availability of plywood, but you know what...... its is still a very viable and strong method of combatting wind shear.

True, but here in earthquake country I like the fact that many of my walls are sheathed in plywood rather than just a few "let in" diagonals. Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling when I'm being shaken to my knees (this has happened!).

Cheers,

Gus

[bobhenry]

Gus :

Ya might as well put in the rest of the paragraph.


" Scarfed in joints allow little if any movement between wood members but they are time consuming and time is money so slap on some osb or plywood and nail the hell out of it. I love reading construction specs where you are instructed to nail the sheathing to the studs at 2" on center so now you have 40 to 50 little wedges in line driven into a 1 1/2 inch wide wall stud. I do not have an architectural engineering degree but I thing Abe Lincon was able to split trees into rails with fewer wedges than that. With the products and fasteners we have available today ( look thru a simpson hanger catalogue sometime) we should be able to build a modest road worthy tiny house , it just takes a look backwards at what our forefathers did and re-learn the benefits of different wood species and re-learn wood jointery and a large dose of old fashion common sense might just come in handy too. "
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However I did take your advice and after installing the let in wind bracing I DID install the rough sawn cedar sheet goods as the sheathing. So I guess I got the best of both , old world, and new world craftsmanship.

[eamarquardt]

However I did take your advice and after installing the let in wind bracing I DID install the rough sawn cedar sheet goods as the sheathing.

I don't recall giving any advice in my post! I merely expressed my thought that I LIKE sheathing as it keeps my house from shaking apart when the "earth moves under my feet".

Why did you take the time to install "let in diagonals" when you sheathed the structure with plywood? I believe in overkill in moderation but that seems like excessive overkill.

However, if you're having fun, have fun!!!!! That's the whole point in doing this. Get what YOU want and have fun along the way.

Cheers,

Gus

[slowcowboy]

wow! bob. I am not the only one that catches it am I??????????

[crttaz]

slowcowboy, an ISO shipping container 3/4 buried into the side of a hill is easy to heat, plumbing not so easy.

Set up a wind generator, along with solar panels and even a water generator is near a stream and you'd have plenty of power.

Also great place to hise when a twister comes knocking on the prairie!

[slowcowboy]

one problem it has no wheels and is perment.

another problem. we don't get twisters in central wyoming. they never touch ground and are rare as a hurricane on the oregon coast.


as for the wind turbine. you can do that with a tumble weed house that you can still tow around with a full size pickup truck.

bettor idea for the shipping contanier.


weld a man hole cover on it.

leave it setting on rail road ties out by your corral.

and have grain storage.

I bet a mouse could not get inside one of them shipping containers.

most people around here use them for cold storage.

slowcowboy.

[slowcowboy]

wind turbine would work. but only in spring and fall and winter. summer we have hardly a drop of wind out here. solar would work if its not snowing over cast for days and in the winter time your charge rate would drop to a very uneffecant leval.


water generator would not be efective due to miles from a open running creek.

running water year round is scarce in wyoming uneless your near the moutains.

and yes. you could run it on irrgation water. problem

water is turned off all winter and you are ractioned on how long you can have your irrgation water on all summer.

you still in the summer would only be running the generator like

5 to 6 days at a time.

slowcowboy.

[Cliffmeister2000]

I saw a video a year ago about an architectural student who built a pretty amazing "small house". He put it on wheels to get "mobile home" status, because many of the things he did would not have been to code in a fixed home. I wish I could find that video now. It was pretty awesome. As I recall, it was a Canadian effort.

We have a 2,134 Sq Ft home, and we use less than 1/2 of it. We have a combination living room / dining room and 2 bedrooms we don't use. A 3rd bedroom is an office, and it could easily be moved into the master bedroom. The lost art in home-building is functional space, which is what tiny homes are all about! RVs try to re-create big home living in a small space, rather than making the space uber-functional.

Our pioneer ancestors used the house to cook, eat and sleep. They didn't need a bunch of space. If we lived in small spaces, we might spend more time outside!

[crttaz]

A small base camp container and a TT to move about as needed.

slow, I've barely been east of the mighty Miss, was just tossing out ideas.

My personal worst mistake ever, selling my mobile home (12x60) and buying a house. Sure it had a garage but the MH had all the room I needed.

[wilberweb]

I like both. Small homes, RV's, travel trailers, teardrops.With so many folks loosing there homes they can build a small home and put it behind there in-laws, and have a place that doesn't look like there camping.
it feels more like a home. not that campers and trailers cant feel like a home. if you know what I mean.

-Larry

[Cliffmeister2000]

When my grandparents were old and couldn't support themselves, my Father put up a huge tent in the back yard, and they lived in it for a couple of years. The tent might have been as big as 15' x 20', but I was very little, and my mind tends to make things from my childhood larger as I grow older.

[wilberweb]

A lot of hard times for some people.
The small portable homes are fully off the grid with wind power solar.
toilets that are no wast. You can set these tiny homes any where.
the ones that you tow are especially convenient. They look like a home so they can kind of blend in the back yard. Also they can be a guest home or art studio lots of uses. Its more confertable then a tent. I have camped in a tent its real cold in the winter. So in a lot of ways the tiny home is better.
Just my opinion.


-Larry