any one want to try a tearmanor ... andrew??

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any one want to try a tearmanor ... andrew??

Postby Ron Dickey » Fri Oct 22, 2004 10:55 pm

http://www.trailmanor.com/

a different kind of pop up this one sell for a lot of money. Hard to find and used ones sell quick.
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Postby angib » Sat Oct 23, 2004 6:33 am

Hmmmmm... Now that's complicated. Sorta anti-KISS, ain't it?

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Postby Ron Dickey » Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:12 pm

angib wrote:Hmmmmm... Now that's complicated. Sorta anti-KISS, ain't it?

Andrew


Andrew by anti-Kiss do you mean it does not meet in the middle.

I thought for any one who had a larger family or was tall waisted so when they sat up they hit the head this might work. allowing room for an extra kit or 2 to sleep or kept the kitchen inside or just gave one more inside storage the would be in the center while in transit. Plus more height.

It would save gas in pulling too.

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Postby angib » Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:02 am

Curious how things come around, isn't it? I came across this while looking for something completely different:

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One might not think that an imitation Gypsy Vardo (wagon/caravan) has anything to do with T&TTTs, but it's really a combination of some traditional styling/detailing, a small trailer floor plan and a Trailmanor-ish lifting roof - just crying out for Sumner's winch lifting system, too.

Gypsy Vardo

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Postby mikeschn » Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:49 am

Thats kewl... Rae has a great photo essay. That's what we need here, someone to paint their teardrop like a Vardo Wagon! Bev? :lol:

I posted this photo of the Vardo a long time ago... I think Joseph was interested in building one... I wonder what ever happened to that?

http://tnttt.com/viewto ... ?p=651#651

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Postby Grant » Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:42 pm

It's been done ...

http://www.outbackteardrop.com/photo/td41.jpg

Vern & Dora Grubb from Yuma, AZ, built this beauty in about '97-'98, and towed it all over the country visiting several So-Cal and Nor-Cal teardrop events. Tragically, the unit was completely destroyed in an accident. I haven't heard if Vern has built a replacement, but it was very clever and worked flawlessly until the accident.

CHEERS!

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Postby Rae » Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:38 pm

Well, you post your stuff on the internet and you never know where it will end up. Nice to meet all of you. :D

Our gypsy wagon isn't meant to be as much of a traveling trailer as it appears most of your trailers are. Basically it goes to one or two events a year. It's very comfortable when we get it there, though. We get lots of "tourists."

Our bunch re-enacts various periods of medieval history. (Technically my wagon isn't period. Don't tell.:twisted: ) You might get a kick out of some of these trailers as well. The first link is a list of gypsy wagons, but the others are all individual pages of traveling homes made by friends of mine. Not all are meant to travel very far. I think most of them live on site. The gypsy wagons are all pretty mobile, and the Twilight Mistress is a traveler. Enjoy!

http://www.enslin.com/rae/pages/pennsichomes.htm
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Postby mikeschn » Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:27 pm

I just did a quick and dirty of a teardrop sized Vardo... it's definitely a different kind of an animal...

Here's the quick and dirty picture...

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So what do you guys think? Am I headed in the right direction with this?

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Postby Flyfisher » Wed Oct 27, 2004 6:50 am

Looks pretty good. That style would certainly give you more headroom. If the bed was raised off the floor, then you would get a wider mattress in there as well.
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Postby Joseph » Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:47 am

mikeschn wrote:I posted this photo of the Vardo a long time ago... I think Joseph was interested in building one...

Uh... no. I was simply comparing a couple w/dog "full timing" in a teardrop to families of Rom/Travellers living in Vardos. :shock:

Gimme the teardrop any time!

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Postby Rae » Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:11 pm

Sorry to take so long getting back on this. I posted a few photos on my site for you Mike. These were some of the best ones for really showing some of the paint jobs on these things. I'd guess most of these are showman's wagons, but I couldn't tell you which for sure. The first photo is just to show scale. As you can see, they came in various sizes.

http://www.enslin.com/rae/gypsy/teardrop1.html

Oh, and your drawing looks very cool. The only thing I noticed is that the door is on the side, but I'm guessing that a teardrop is simply designed that way.
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Postby Ron Dickey » Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:31 am

I am always interested how ideas start and end up on the same suject but in a different direction.

below sitye shows setup.

http://www.trailmanor.com/Camping-Towin ... omfort.htm

wondering who this would look like as a teardrop.

Mike had a really good drawing of a gypsy wagon to see more find the book Freewheeling homes by Pearson

This book is full of wonderful colored pictures of Gypsy type trailers. but also offers a couple of tears , shepards hut, how to make a Bowtop wagon sells for 16.95

which is where I first found tumbleweed. but for small cars a 4 wheel wagon type would be no weight on a small car bumpers but a little more weight to pull up hill.

and as usual all very interesting stuff you guys find.

When I saw this I thought of that of that one guy with all those kids.

this could sleep 4 or more and be easy drafting.

The gypsy wagon will sleep even more bunkbeds 3 high.

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Postby mikeschn » Thu Oct 28, 2004 3:57 am

Rae wrote:Oh, and your drawing looks very cool. The only thing I noticed is that the door is on the side, but I'm guessing that a teardrop is simply designed that way.


I had to decide whether to put the door in the back, like a Winter Warrior
http://www.mikenchell.com/winterwarriorpage.html
And then possible raise the roof like you did, or like Andrews Compact...
or

Leave the doors on the side like a standard teardrop, keep the galley in the back like a standard teardrop and keep the body height to 48-52".

I decided the later looked better.

I'll add the axle, wheels and fenders, to give you guys a better sense of scale.

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Postby denverd0n » Thu Oct 28, 2004 11:50 am

Rae, thanks for participating here! I like the Vardo concept. One question: how do you raise the top? I haven't found any details about that on your site.

...OH! Wait a minute! Now I see that you use two jacks. I guess I was hoping for something more sophisticated and easier for one person. Hmm. I guess I'll have to figure that out for myself.
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Postby mikeschn » Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:29 pm

Rae wrote:Sorry to take so long getting back on this. I posted a few photos on my site for you Mike.

http://www.enslin.com/rae/gypsy/teardrop1.html


Thanks Rae,

Gee, a person would need a master's degree in painting to be able to do some of that fancy painting on a trailer or teardrop.

I've been running short on time these last couple days also. I will get back to the Vardo Style Tiny Trailer though...

So Pennsic is in July?

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