Kind of like a Grumman

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Kind of like a Grumman

Postby ELM » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:51 pm

I have started my teardrop :thumbsup: This going to be a modified Grumman. I've been working on it for a few weeks now and I've made some saw dust / shavings but not the kind you guys are used to.In this picture the walls are just clamped to the frame.
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The frame is 2x2x1/8" and 2x3x1/8" tongue weight is 114.5 lbs
The walls are made 3/4 x 1 1/2 x .065 and 3/4 x 3/4 x .065 they weigh 82 lbs
Total is 196.5
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Re: Kind of like a Grumman

Postby ELM » Sun Feb 14, 2016 1:43 am

Here's the frame is mostly welded up. Image
Here I'm working on the gutter under the hatch. Image
In this picture it's hard to see the bent 1/2"x 1" tube that I'm using for my gutter. I cut part of the tubing away to form my gutter.Image
Hatch frame 29 lbs
hatch gutters 6 lbs
tongue braces 6 lbs
battery tray 4 lbs
LPG tray 4 lbs
shoe box tracks 5 lbs
hitch hinge tube 5.8 lbs
Total 256.3
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Re: Kind of like a Grumman

Postby Hepcat » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:31 am

Looks like some serious craftsmanship here. What are the dimensions, and interior layout?
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Re: Kind of like a Grumman

Postby steve cowan » Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:32 am

That really shows your metal fabricating skills.Was wondering the reason for the double curvature on top.Great work!

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Re: Kind of like a Grumman

Postby KennethW » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:01 am

Only one door? If you are building with a steel frame why one door?
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Re: Kind of like a Grumman

Postby ELM » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:12 am

Hepcat wrote:Looks like some serious craftsmanship here. What are the dimensions, and interior layout?

Thanks. It's 110" X 60" and I'm still working on the inside layout. I'm almost done with steel work so I can prime and paint the steel and then I can start on the wood.
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Re: Kind of like a Grumman

Postby ELM » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:15 am

KennethW wrote:Only one door? If you are building with a steel frame why one door?

Yes only one door for now but if you look at the framing I have framed it for another door if I need one. Thanks
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Re: Kind of like a Grumman

Postby ELM » Sun Feb 14, 2016 11:19 am

steve cowan wrote:That really shows your metal fabricating skills.Was wondering the reason for the double curvature on top.Great work!

Steve

Thanks I've been working with steel most all my life. I did the double curve so I could do the inside out type of build.
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Re: Kind of like a Grumman

Postby KCStudly » Sun Feb 14, 2016 2:06 pm

You will find the overwhelming consensus, especially from people who started with one door, is that they wished they had done two doors from the begining. It's just so much easier to do it from the start.

There is a thread in the voting/poling forum asking what people would have done differently. The two most common things are building 5 wide not 4 (check), and building with 2 doors.

Just saying, you obviously have the skills, just do it. :thumbsup:

Nobody wants to have to crawl over, or be crawled over in the night. Other inputs, including those from solo campers, are that it is harder to make the bed with just one door, and sometimes, depending on campsite arrangement it's nice to have the door on the other side.

Just saying, do it now. :worship:
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Re: Kind of like a Grumman

Postby ELM » Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:14 pm

KCStudly wrote:You will find the overwhelming consensus, especially from people who started with one door, is that they wished they had done two doors from the begining. It's just so much easier to do it from the start.

There is a thread in the voting/poling forum asking what people would have done differently. The two most common things are building 5 wide not 4 (check), and building with 2 doors.

Just saying, you obviously have the skills, just do it. :thumbsup:

Nobody wants to have to crawl over, or be crawled over in the night. Other inputs, including those from solo campers, are that it is harder to make the bed with just one door, and sometimes, depending on campsite arrangement it's nice to have the door on the other side.

Just saying, do it now. :worship:

Thanks KC for the input. I've framed it for another door so if we need it someday I can just get the rotor out with the trim bit and have an opening for a door in a few minutes. I really don't mind my wife crawling over or me crawling over her :thinking: ;) . KC I've read your holeeeeee build tread and you have a wonderful foamy your building. I love all the food porn in your build tread and all the help you give other people on this awesome site. Well I should be out working on it while the sun is out. I'm trying to get it primed and painted before we get rain and more cold weather.
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Re: Kind of like a Grumman

Postby KCStudly » Sun Feb 14, 2016 3:35 pm

Thanks. I will add that most of the lessons I have learned during my build were things that someone along the way had suggested from a point early on. If I had adopted some of those suggestions earlier I would have saved some rework and expense.

Why wouldn't you do it now?

BTW, the work you have done so far looks really good! :thumbsup:
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Re: Kind of like a Grumman

Postby ELM » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:36 pm

I finally have an update. I've been trying to figure out how to do my hatch supports and it only took a week to come up with an idea I like :? So now I can prime and paint the frame. Here's a few pictures Image
Any guesses on what it weighs as you see it in this picture :thinking: OK it's 372.1 lbs

Ready to prime. I used my Ransburg Electrostatic sprayer I use this to paint my wrought iron fencing and trailers. The way it works is it puts paint on the wheel that spins it into a mist and puts a electric charge to the paint. I can paint down one side of a tube and the paint will wrap around the tubing on all sides. It's like powder coating but in a liquid form but you don't need to bake it. The paint is a single stage urethane. Here it is taped and ready to be primed Image
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Re: Kind of like a Grumman

Postby ELM » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:43 pm

Here it is primed Image
This only took five minutes to prime once I had the paint loaded in the sprayer and ready to go.
And here it is painted black ImageImage
And with tape removed. I taped where I'm going to glue the plywood to the steel so hopefully the Loctite will stick better to the bare steel.Image
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Re: Kind of like a Grumman

Postby Mushin » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:45 pm

Wow!
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Re: Kind of like a Grumman

Postby ELM » Wed Mar 02, 2016 8:49 pm

Now I can start putting plywood in for good :D I also sprayed sander sealer on the floor and inner walls. A lot of painting in one day before the rain returns for a few days. :beer:
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