Indoor or Outdoor Tankless Water Heater

stand up or sit down...to sink or not to sink...want or got gas...post your Q&A here..........

Postby Ron Dickey » Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:49 pm

there are ones that run on 110 they are small and I do not know they're record. But here is one

http://www.ecrater.com/p/10188947/mini- ... c-tankless

Image

another which looks questionable
http://www.excelonlinestore.com/servlet ... ter/Detail

another
http://tanklessecowaterheaters.com/point-of-use.html/

here is the one I was looking for thinking of putting it on my shower at home.
http://www.ecosmartus.com/products/show ... eater.aspx

and there might be more.
121377.............134179.........134805
both side walls are up...cabinet needs stain.......ongoing 2.5 yr bld build as i find time..... Cross Bow in Build Journals....viewtopic.php?f=50&t=54108
User avatar
Ron Dickey
Silver Donating Member
 
Posts: 2970
Images: 701
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2004 5:56 pm
Location: Central Coast, CA

Postby 2bits » Mon Aug 22, 2011 10:12 am

Yeah experience with an item is "priceless"...
Thomas
User avatar
2bits
2bit Member
 
Posts: 4893
Images: 16
Joined: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:04 pm
Location: Lake Tawakoni, TX

Postby StandUpGuy » Sat Sep 17, 2011 10:59 am

Ron Dickey wrote:there are ones that run on 110 they are small and I do not know they're record. But here is one

http://www.ecrater.com/p/10188947/mini- ... c-tankless

Image

another which looks questionable
http://www.excelonlinestore.com/servlet ... ter/Detail

another
http://tanklessecowaterheaters.com/point-of-use.html/

here is the one I was looking for thinking of putting it on my shower at home.
http://www.ecosmartus.com/products/show ... eater.aspx

and there might be more.
This shower head is interesting so I found the manufacturer website and the specifications state that there is an average increase of temperature of 25 degrees F. So this shower head is not going to make a "hot" shower. It is going to make at best a warm shower. Maybe that is not bad for some. With the mini tank water heaters you can have hot but not for long. With this one you can have warm as long as you want. Trade off.
User avatar
StandUpGuy
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1060
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:15 pm
Top

Postby 2bits » Sun Sep 18, 2011 12:04 pm

Interesting, I would be just fine with warm, as long at it isn't that freezing cold blast! Thanks!
Thomas
User avatar
2bits
2bit Member
 
Posts: 4893
Images: 16
Joined: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:04 pm
Location: Lake Tawakoni, TX
Top

Postby StandUpGuy » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:50 pm

I saw some discouraging things about the safety of such devices with regards to electricity and water. bad combo.
User avatar
StandUpGuy
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1060
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:15 pm
Top

Postby 2bits » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:56 pm

StandUpGuy wrote:I saw some discouraging things about the safety of such devices with regards to electricity and water. bad combo.


Can you quantify? I don't want to throw out the idea without support. I would be interested to know what you saw!

Thanks!
Thomas
User avatar
2bits
2bit Member
 
Posts: 4893
Images: 16
Joined: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:04 pm
Location: Lake Tawakoni, TX
Top

Postby Moho » Thu Sep 22, 2011 9:54 am

Noticed a couple comments about mounting an electric upside down.

If you do something like that, you have to make sure that the heating element is ALWAYS underwater. They will burnout if not sumerged at all times. Also make sure you do something with replumbing the safety popoff so it doesn't become a geyser and spray ya in the face :BE
User avatar
Moho
Teardrop Master
 
Posts: 244
Images: 69
Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:17 am
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Top

Postby StandUpGuy » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:33 pm

2bits wrote:
StandUpGuy wrote:I saw some discouraging things about the safety of such devices with regards to electricity and water. bad combo.


Can you quantify? I don't want to throw out the idea without support. I would be interested to know what you saw!

Thanks!


Just type in "electric shower head danger" and you will find some stuff. Here is an example:
http://ezinearticles.com/?Electric-Show ... id=3839364


True or not don't know. Just little mentions of it here and there.
User avatar
StandUpGuy
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1060
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:15 pm
Top

Postby 2bits » Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:46 pm

StandUpGuy wrote:
2bits wrote:
StandUpGuy wrote:I saw some discouraging things about the safety of such devices with regards to electricity and water. bad combo.


Can you quantify? I don't want to throw out the idea without support. I would be interested to know what you saw!

Thanks!


Just type in "electric shower head danger" and you will find some stuff. Here is an example:
http://ezinearticles.com/?Electric-Show ... id=3839364


True or not don't know. Just little mentions of it here and there.


OK thanks for the info... I did notice that every article I found had to do with travel overseas and substandard installation. Costa Rica, El Salvador, Latin America, usually the wiring job is pretty amateur and the wires are almost always exposed."

Lets keep things in perspective of responsible building practices. It is good to know that there are dangers.
Thomas
User avatar
2bits
2bit Member
 
Posts: 4893
Images: 16
Joined: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:04 pm
Location: Lake Tawakoni, TX
Top

Postby Moho » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:01 pm

Found this general info on the electric shower heads...

•The wiring must be properly grounded - really well grounded in fact. And if you live in a dry area this may be a challenge. Even a copper pipe going into the ground may not provide a proper grounding if the soil is dry - you may need to dump water or saltwater down where the grounding pipe is periodically.
•The circuit must be a dedicated circuit with the appropriate amperage. Most of these showers require a 30 or 40 amp circuit. (They are energy hogs for the few minutes they're on - but they're hardly ever on!) If you don't have them on a high enough circuit you may keep blowing the circuit, which is not a fun thing to have happen when you're covered in shampoo and soap and the water goes permanently cold.
User avatar
Moho
Teardrop Master
 
Posts: 244
Images: 69
Joined: Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:17 am
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Top

Postby StandUpGuy » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:30 pm

2bits wrote:
StandUpGuy wrote:
2bits wrote:
StandUpGuy wrote:I saw some discouraging things about the safety of such devices with regards to electricity and water. bad combo.


Can you quantify? I don't want to throw out the idea without support. I would be interested to know what you saw!

Thanks!


Just type in "electric shower head danger" and you will find some stuff. Here is an example:
http://ezinearticles.com/?Electric-Show ... id=3839364


True or not don't know. Just little mentions of it here and there.


OK thanks for the info... I did notice that every article I found had to do with travel overseas and substandard installation. Costa Rica, El Salvador, Latin America, usually the wiring job is pretty amateur and the wires are almost always exposed."

Lets keep things in perspective of responsible building practices. It is good to know that there are dangers.


Exactly what I found in searching. Third world countries with sub standard installations. Still if you have a remotely installed mini heater I do not think there is much chance of a "death shower" with a sub standard installation. I am still interested in knowing more as I really only need warm water and only really need it in the shower. The unit is about half the price of a mini tank unit aswell and of course you do not need to dedicate cabinet space for the shower head unit.
User avatar
StandUpGuy
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1060
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:15 pm
Top

Postby 2bits » Fri Sep 23, 2011 8:27 pm

It's good info both ways to shine light on!
Thomas
User avatar
2bits
2bit Member
 
Posts: 4893
Images: 16
Joined: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:04 pm
Location: Lake Tawakoni, TX
Top

Re: INDOOR Tankless Water heater

Postby StandUpGuy » Sat Oct 29, 2011 6:18 pm

2bits wrote:I just spent a couple of educational hours searching, but it seems that all the stuff I am running into on the forum/eBay etc are "outdoor" tankless water heaters. I am going to put a shower in my next trailer and prefer to have a tankless water heater in a cabinet rather than hanging from a tree or bolted to the outside of the trailer. I would like to screw a water hose into the side of the trailer and be done with it. I have decided against Solar or alternate water delivery or storage ideas. Just looking for one of those wonderful units that I see everywhere but can be mounter indoors.

Anyone have suggestions or a link? Propane or Elec and at or under $200 would be great! (Experience with said item is even better!)

Thanks!



I just ordered this unit. 4 gal. mini tank. $130 plus $24 for shipping.




Image
By justoneman at 2011-10-29
User avatar
StandUpGuy
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1060
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:15 pm
Top

Re: INDOOR Tankless Water heater

Postby 2bits » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:27 pm

StandUpGuy wrote:
I just ordered this unit. 4 gal. mini tank. $130 plus $24 for shipping.




Let us know how it works out! :thumbsup:
Thomas
User avatar
2bits
2bit Member
 
Posts: 4893
Images: 16
Joined: Thu Dec 27, 2007 6:04 pm
Location: Lake Tawakoni, TX
Top

Re: INDOOR Tankless Water heater

Postby StandUpGuy » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:17 pm

2bits wrote:
StandUpGuy wrote:
I just ordered this unit. 4 gal. mini tank. $130 plus $24 for shipping.




Let us know how it works out! :thumbsup:
Yep when I get it and it is up and running I will give a review of the product.
User avatar
StandUpGuy
1000 Club
1000 Club
 
Posts: 1060
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 6:15 pm
Top

PreviousNext

Return to Plumbing & Propane Secrets

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest