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Re: Transport propane

Postby Dale M. » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:22 pm

slowcowboy wrote:I got a 5 pound small pancake bottle and I am fond of jamming it between the front bucket seeat on the passnger side and the middle seat in my suv. sometimes I wrap it in coats I do a 20 lb barbaque the same way.

no frills and no worrys.

been lots of miles transporting them this way.

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Just because you have gotten away with it so far does not make it safe.....

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Re: Transport propane

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Re: Transport propane

Postby vaddisonme » Sun Feb 03, 2013 5:10 pm

Well-decision has been made. I found one, and ONLY one, diamond plate alminum tongue box short enough to work on my trailer tongue. Now on order. :) Have a "steel 10" x 6" Return Air Grill". When tongue box gets here, I will cut thin piece of ply into the shape of the tongue box for extra support and nailing surface, cutout rectangular shape in ply and box below grille, place piece of fiberglass bug screen under grille, and screw it down. I will mount two circular ply pieces for the propane tanks to sit on, and make a holder for one of the little 1lb disposable containers. But I will take my trailer to someone with a BIG saw, who knows how to work with metal, to cut off the thick aluminum Tire Mount. NOT going to do that myself!!! Finally -after weighing the tongue of the trailer fully loaded; if too heavy, I will get a hitch mounted spare tire holder for the back of the sweetpotato. 35lbs hanging off the very back of the trailer should lighten things up in the front,,,, So now I wait for slow delivery of the 15.25 inch high trailer tongue box.
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Re: Transport propane

Postby slowcowboy » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:50 am

lots of people who buy a propane bottle from the exchange rack at walmart just trow them in the beack seat or a trunk of a car. I never have while working for amerigas saw one person with a special way to carry a propane bottle other than trowing it in the back seat of a car or the bed of a pickup of all the bottles I filled.

when your wanting a bottle for barbaquing theres no specail way to transport one. you just put it in the back seat of your car and away you go to the house!

think about it.

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Re: Transport propane

Postby celticquetzel » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:08 am

Thinking of a solar vent/fan, or two. Could i store a small propane (5 lb, or maybe couple 1#) in the galley, with vent to underside of trailer. Could pull them out when sleeping. By the way, always had a CO/fire alarm in my old tent trailer and slept much better.
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Re: Transport propane

Postby slowcowboy » Sat Jul 27, 2013 10:35 pm

think of it this way dale. the propane on a hot day will vent off IF and if the bottle is over filled thats why propane bottles are filed to 80 percent of capity to give room for that expansion INSIDE the tank or bottle.

yea. if the bottle was overfilled you got a problem.

most barbaque bottles DON"T get overfilled.


and if you fill up at a place with a meter and see how much they put in you can tell if it over fills.

and dale you got any idea what a opd modern valve on a modern propane bottle is for and what it are the chances of a opd vavle not doing its job?

so I carry them in the car and What the heck!

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Re: Transport propane

Postby Dale M. » Sun Jul 28, 2013 8:33 am

Sure hope I don't read in the newspaper or see on tv " SUV Explodes killing all passengers because they were carrying propane tank in passenger compartment when it exploded, but miraculously the dog survived..."

I really don't care what you say or do, please do not come to visit my state or me with tank in passenger compartment, I do not want it on record another tragic event that the could have been avoided happened in California....ITS NOT SAFE.... Why take the risk..... Life has to many of ending, why give it another way.....

All the safety literature and facts published by all the different entities involved gas manufacturing transportation and storage, can not be wrong, they do not publish all this just so another industry can cut down trees and make paper to print all this information on....

As Forrest Gump would say "stupid is what stupid does"

No disrespect intended but I think you are really pushing your luck and by publishing this thing you do you are encouraging others to ignore safety warnings, and somebody is going to get very hurt or dead because of it....

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Re: Transport propane

Postby CarlLaFong » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:07 pm

While I do not wish make safety a secondary issue, I believe there is a Chicken Little thought process going on here. Propane is a dangerous product. No argument there. Propane must be transported. You don't just grab it out of the air. Exactly how is one supposed to get a tank of the stuff home from the BORG or the filling station if they do not own a truck? How about cars that have been converted to run on the stuff? I have been a certified welder for some time and I have never, not even once, heard of a gas cylinder spontaneously exploding. Please note that I said spontaneous. Here is what the DOT has to say about it. There is no prohibition of transporting propane in any vehicle. There is not even a suggestion that it is a bad idea. All they require is the container be secured, the valve is protected and a modicum of common sense is employed.
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Re: Transport propane

Postby pmowers » Sun Jul 28, 2013 12:48 pm

I HAD a full 20 pounder in the back of my truck in one of those strap-down platforms under my black roll-up tonneau cover. It was raining when I got home so I just left it, and forgot about it. When I went to get it out to put it on the grill- it was empty. Apparently it got hot enough to pop the safety valve. I know for a fact that it gets a lot hotter in the cab of my truck than it does under the cover. just what someone needs is to have the relief valve go in their SUV, filling the vehicle with propane, turning it into a bomb, just waiting for that unsealed relay to spark it into a tragedy.

I carry a couple of 1# cylinders in the tongue box, but not in the CT itself, and never when they have been used, as I rarely have a partial cylinder NOT leak.
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Re: Transport propane

Postby CarlLaFong » Sun Jul 28, 2013 6:19 pm

^^^^^^I don't think so.
The pressure relief valve is designed to open when the pressure becomes excessive. Once the pressure returns to normal, the valve resets. Someone didn't tighten the shut off valve and your gas leaked out. I had the valves pop on both of my tanks, in our fifth wheel, in Phoenix, in July. 120F that day. They blew propane for 5 minutes or so and then all was good. No, I would never toss them in the trunk of a car and leave them there. I think if you can't mount them on the tongue or a dedicated compartment that is open to the pavement, you should leave them at home. If you're a home builder and you don't have room for it, then that's just poor planning
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Re: Transport propane

Postby Bogo » Sun Jul 28, 2013 9:17 pm

At 2:16 into this video the propane tank pressure relief valve starts opening and closing.
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Re: Transport propane

Postby pmowers » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:28 pm

CarlLaFong wrote:^^^^^^I don't think so.
The pressure relief valve is designed to open when the pressure becomes excessive. Once the pressure returns to normal, the valve resets. Someone didn't tighten the shut off valve and your gas leaked out. I had the valves pop on both of my tanks, in our fifth wheel, in Phoenix, in July. 120F that day. They blew propane for 5 minutes or so and then all was good. No, I would never toss them in the trunk of a car and leave them there. I think if you can't mount them on the tongue or a dedicated compartment that is open to the pavement, you should leave them at home. If you're a home builder and you don't have room for it, then that's just poor planning

Valve was tight before it went in, tight when it came out. Didn't leak at all in the 4 mo. that I had it stored before the trip.
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Re: Transport propane

Postby slowcowboy » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:18 am

this happens folks in the propane industry when a tank is OVER FILLED! simple.

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Re: Transport propane

Postby Dale M. » Wed Jul 31, 2013 8:50 am

Though OPD valve were to prevent over fill?....

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Re: Transport propane

Postby Bogo » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:43 pm

It can only do so much to keep a tank from being over filled. I've heard about ways to defeat them. Also they can fail.
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