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Re: FYI: Lite Cylinder recall

PostPosted: Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:58 pm
by Dale M.
Bogo wrote:Propane pressure relief valves are set at 275 to 300 lbs. At standard temperatures the tanks run around 177 lbs plus to keep the propane liquid.


At 70°f. tank pressure is 110psi, at 90° f. pressure is 150 psi, at 110°f. pressure is 205 psi.....IF tank safety valve is at 275 psi and tank ruptures or explodes at a pressure below 275 PSI what good is safety relief (blow off) valve.... Not buying your logic.... Faulty construction of a product does not follow all the rules of physics, as we design and engineer products...

Little more about pressures and temperature.... And general propane safety...

http://www.flameengineering.com/Propane_Info.html

Also more reading for those who are interested in propane safety....

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=44161

Dale

Re: FYI: Lite Cylinder recall

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:37 am
by mcspin50
Rats! My tank has the first number as well. If the company is not responding/out of business, how can we return the tanks to them? Any suggestions?

Re: FYI: Lite Cylinder recall

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:06 am
by Shadow Catcher
What I am reading in the Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration complaint is that they have had a small number of failures which they failed to report, and a persistent quality control problem with a lack of willingness to address them. I have not checked ours but will do a leak test and continue to use it with caution. Knowing government inspection types (having been one) this may not be particularly probabilistic. Most of the complaints were of such things as not doing random burst testing but instead tested all the samples at the beginning of a run.
Hydro testing would I would think assure safety.

Re: FYI: Lite Cylinder recall

PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:25 am
by eamarquardt
Seems to me were reincarnating Groucho Marx's old TV program: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Bet_Your_Life

A std propane tank is about $30 at the big box stores. You can get smaller ones for more and aluminum tanks for even more.

I can appreciate having cool stuff like an MPPT controller versus a more basic PWM controller and all sorts of trick things folks on the forum have done to make their trailer the way they want it regardless of the cost in $ or time and energy.

I simply can't understand a lot of folks lack of concern about safety items. IMHO brakes are a cheap investment but many people push the envelope and rationalize that they'll be more cautious than usual when driving a vehicle that, in many cases, exceeds the manufacturers recommendations and the towing laws of many states.

Yeah the plastic tanks are see through (a minor deal as a scale will tell you to the oz how much is in the tank) and a bit lighter but I've always wondered about their ability to withstand a blow, drop, or some other type of physical assault. Steel or aluminum will bend or dent. Plastic not so much.

I do whatever I can to reasonably minimize the risks I take and the potential for more pain in my life. I don't enjoy getting up and taking a pain pill first thing virtually each and every day and, typically, more throughout the day. Call me a wuss. I've done some pretty cool things (more than most folks) that have killed more than a few but I have only experienced an occasional very minor injury.

If someone is gonna continue to use one of these tanks I think they ought to fly a flag or banner warning others around them of the fact the tank has been recalled but continues to be used.

No matter how small the risk of using one of these plastic tanks that are now suspect, it isn't, IMHO, worth the risk.

Rant over.

Cheers,

Gus

Re: FYI: Lite Cylinder recall

PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2013 6:46 am
by TPMcGinty
If there is a recall on these cylinders I wouldn't continue to use them. If they burst while someone is filling them, and you were aware of the recall, you could get a hefty lawsuit filed against you.

Re: FYI: Lite Cylinder recall

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:48 pm
by nevadatear
Got a letter from uhaul today, where we purchased ours. They will give us a 20# steel tank if we bring in our lite to a uhaul that does propane.

Re: FYI: Lite Cylinder recall

PostPosted: Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:02 pm
by eamarquardt
nevadatear wrote:Got a letter from uhaul today, where we purchased ours. They will give us a 20# steel tank if we bring in our lite to a uhaul that does propane.


That's nice and responsible of them. :thumbsup: :applause: :D

Cheers,

Gus

Re: FYI: Lite Cylinder recall

PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:31 pm
by mcspin50
Took my almost-full Lite Cylinder fiberglass tank to the local Lakes Area Cooperative Energy Division. They hadn't heard about the recall so I forwarded the info to them. They were nice enough to empty, purge and remove the valve on the tank all for the low, low price of...nothing. Gotta love small town service.

Re: FYI: Lite Cylinder recall

PostPosted: Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:38 pm
by TPMcGinty
mcspin50 wrote:Took my almost-full Lite Cylinder fiberglass tank to the local Lakes Area Cooperative Energy Division. They hadn't heard about the recall so I forwarded the info to them. They were nice enough to empty, purge and remove the valve on the tank all for the low, low price of...nothing. Gotta love small town service.


Lil,

Didn't they give you a new cylinder? Now THAT would be small town service! A FREE cylinder! :)