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Re: #1

Postby Wolffarmer » Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:47 am

Yes, it is a bulky item to stock. I can see why no one wants to keep many around. At least fiber glass insulation compresses down. Foam panel is a panel and always will be.

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Re: #1

Postby GPW » Sat Feb 02, 2013 8:05 am

The prices seem to vary Wildly too ... The HD here (when they had it ) wanted 29USD, the insulation supply house (supposedly Wholesale) wanted 45USD/sheet ... :o
Just gotta’ look around for the Best deal !!! “ Seek and you shall Foam !!! “ :lol:
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:36 pm

The weather was good here so I was able to do some work out in the shop. I made up some supports to hold the floor off the ground while I work it. Also bought a biscuit cutter to join the two floor sections together. I was hoping to get the floor glued together but I ran out of time. I had to make a skill saw jig and it took longer than I thought it was going to take.

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The supports
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Making the support feet
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Cutting the floor to the right width
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:39 pm

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Biscuit cutter, glue and biscuits
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Getting ready to cut biscuit slots
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Re: #1

Postby GPW » Sun Feb 17, 2013 6:21 am

I sure like that floor George !!! :thumbsup: We’ll be using the same material ! Nice short horses too ... 8)
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Re: #1

Postby Mary C » Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:42 am

George I hope those pics are in a build journal. Looks good !

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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Sun Feb 17, 2013 12:08 pm

Mary C wrote:George I hope those pics are in a build journal. Looks good !

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Not sure what you mean by a build journal, but they are going into a build file here at the house.
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:40 pm

Today I got the floor glued together. Had to get a bit creative on clamps and wieghts.

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Floor together
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Made some jigs for internal frame placement. The foam is 2" thick so I made these to stand back the frame rails 2" from the side.

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2" jigs
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Pre drilling the fram rails for 1/4 by 2 1/2" carrage bolts.

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Pre drilling the frame rails
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Sun Feb 17, 2013 8:49 pm

This is the spacers and frame rail, getting ready to drill through the floor for attachment.

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Spacer jigs and frame rail ready for drilling
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Using the pre drilled frame as a drill guide to drill through the floor.

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Drilling through floor.
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First rails installed.

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First set of rails installed.
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Well that is all for this weekend. Hope to get the rest of the frame done next weekend.
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Re: #1

Postby Wolffarmer » Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:15 pm

Did you measure your foam thickness before you made your guides? My 1 inch foam was more like 1 1/16 inch.

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Re: #1

Postby mezmo » Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:30 am

Wolffarmer wrote:Did you measure your foam thickness before you made your guides? My 1 inch foam was more like 1 1/16 inch.

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Yes ! You need to measure Everything when you get it ! So much stuff is "nominal" now, or there
is so much variation with it that you must determine the Real Measurements that it/they is/are.

Too many accumulated 1/32s or 1/16s differences will soon add up to wonkyville - and tend to drive
you to there too if you don't pay attention.

This also includes watching how you cut things or, especially, if you have large pieces cut into more
easily transportable sizes at the big box home improvement stores, e.g., you have a 30in dimension
you need for your design, so you have them rip/cut the 4x8 sheet that dimension lengthwise. That
'saves' you the trouble of doing so, and makes it easier to transport home. Then, when you go to use
it, you find they set the cut wrong - not allowing for the blade kerf - and you now have 29&7/8in x 8ft
instead of 30in x 8ft. If you're trying to do closework - and I think building a TD/TTT is that - this small
error can mess up all your other dimensions - depending on your tolerances of course. If you can hide
it, fine but some things need exact close measurements.

In a nutshell - don't assume it is what/the-dimension it says it is - double check it !

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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Mon Feb 18, 2013 8:40 pm

I do not have any foam here to measure and I forgot when I was at the store. I was more concerned with the inside dimensions thought. I should be fine if the foam is a little thicker or thinner. I'll cross that bridge when I get there.

Just so others know the OSB is sized dimensionally 1/8" inch smaller to allow a 1/16" for expansion on all sides. If you glue two sheets together you'll be 1/4" short of 8 feet.

I know all about how modern wood is not correctly cut. I have run into quite a bit of that building two sheds last summer. I had to measure every piece before I could use it. Was not too bad when they were over length, but when they were too short was another story.
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Re: #1

Postby GPW » Tue Feb 19, 2013 8:07 am

That’s good to know about OSB , thanks !!! :thumbsup:
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:00 pm

Two sheets of foam....... :thumbsup:

Marked up and ready for the cuts. I clamped both sheets together so the cuts would be nearly the same.

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Marked and clamped, ready for the cuts
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The foam after the cut.

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The cut...
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Cleaning up the cut. I am using a small square to make sure I sand the two panels.... wait for it......Square! 8)

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Cleaning up the cut.
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The square worked great and I really did not have too much clean up on the front radius cut.
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Re: #1

Postby ghcoe » Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:06 pm

The foam really cleaned up nice..... :D

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After clean up.
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On the rear radius the screw holding the blade onto the saber saw came loose and allowed the blade to walk a bit on the lower sheet. Took a bit of time to sand it all down to match.

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Rear radius.
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I used a shop vac while I was sanding and it made a big difference. I just put the nozzle next to where I was sanding. I had hardly any foam dust on me and my work. :thumbsup:
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