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Re: #5

Postby GPW » Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:40 am

For more weight savings , a lighter Linen canvas is much stronger than a heavier cotton canvas… :thumbsup:
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Re: #5

Postby printer » Sat Jul 31, 2021 2:59 pm

GPW wrote:For more weight savings , a lighter Linen canvas is much stronger than a heavier cotton canvas… :thumbsup:


Now he tells me.
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Re: #5

Postby ghcoe » Sat Jul 31, 2021 5:04 pm

Progress this week.

I was able to finish priming the floor and attach the canvas to both sides. Since I was not intending to canvas the floor I did not order enough canvas so I had to use a Harbor Freight drop cloth for this process.

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Applying canvas
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Canvas applied
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Canvas trimmed
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Re: #5

Postby ghcoe » Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:59 pm

Getting a bit behind here I see. Well here is the progress since last time.

The walls come to a point in the front so I used duct tape to hold the pieces together on the outside. I then applied Gorilla Glue along the seam on the inside before I bent the walls together back together.

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Attaching sides
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I added some spacers on the edge to hold the walls up from the bottom of the floor dado.

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Spacers
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Then the walls are set up to get ready to glue to the floor.

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Walls ready to glue
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Re: #5

Postby ghcoe » Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:11 pm

First I run glue along the inside edge of the wall dado.

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Glue applied inside edge of dado
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Then I set the nose down into the dado and then bend the walls along the floor profile. I use clamps to hold the walls in place on the back and then check to make sure the nose is slid back all the way. Luckily my measurements all came in so I must of done something right...

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Curving the walls to the floor
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Now that the walls are where I want them I apply glue into the crevasse that the shims provided for me.

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Gluing the crevasse
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Re: #5

Postby ghcoe » Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:19 pm

A few shots of the walls after the glue up.

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clamps
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Nose set in
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I had a couple places where the walls did not want to butt up to the floor properly so I had to add a few finishing nails to hold the walls in place as the glue dried.

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Nails
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Re: #5

Postby ghcoe » Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:38 pm

After the walls were dry it was time to raise the roof...

I applied some 1"x2" to hold the roof in place as I installed it and as the glue dried.

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Getting ready
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Usually I set the roof on top of the walls, but I on this build I decided to install between the walls. This will help hold the curve of the walls at the top since the foam does want to go straight.

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Almost there
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Getting closer
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Re: #5

Postby ghcoe » Sun Aug 15, 2021 7:46 pm

Once the roof was in place I applied glue and then clamped it all together.

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Roof installed
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Here is a shot of the temporary roof supports once the roof is installed. They will hold everything even as the glue dries.

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Temporary supports
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And then I popped the shelves into the shelf dados. They fit perfect! They will also give a lot of extra strength to the front section of the build.

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Shelves
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Re: #5

Postby Bezoar » Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:35 pm

Looking good! Been waiting for an update, can't wait to see the finished product and its final weight!
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Re: #5

Postby GPW » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:54 am

8) :thumbsup: :applause:
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Re: #5

Postby CRZ42 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 9:30 am

I am looking forward to seeing the final results. This was one of the first builds that really excited me. It would beat setting a tent up at the end of a day of riding by far.
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Re: #5

Postby aggie79 » Mon Aug 16, 2021 3:47 pm

Very nice! Would you mind saying why you used two “glues” - Gorilla Glue and Latex Plus caulk? Thank you and take care, Tom


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Re: #5

Postby printer » Mon Aug 16, 2021 4:24 pm

ghcoe wrote:First I run glue along the inside edge of the wall dado.

Now that the walls are where I want them I apply glue into the crevasse that the shims provided for me.

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Maybe I should read the preceding post before I ask the same question.
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Re: #5

Postby ghcoe » Mon Aug 16, 2021 5:07 pm

aggie79 wrote:Very nice! Would you mind saying why you used two “glues” - Gorilla Glue and Latex Plus caulk? Thank you and take care, Tom


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No problem. My first build I experimented with Alex Plus and it worked great it just takes a long time to dry. I still have a block of foam around here that I glued together with it for a test.

I like to use Gorilla Glue Construction Adhesive because it has a good grab and hold when putting pieces together. Alex plus does not.

Gorilla Glue Construction Adhesive cures much faster too. Usually full cure in a few hours. Alex Plus can take days to cure fully to the middle.

Gorilla Glue Construction Adhesive is quite expensive though and at this point can be a bit hard to find at the stores. I figured I would try something different this time by using Gorilla Glue at the clamp points to get a good bond and Ales Plus at the other locations to save on cost. In the picture you can see a little line of glue below the long line of glue. Bottom is Gorilla Glue Construction Adhesive and top line is Alex Plus. I unclamped the walls the next day and everything stayed in place. If I had just used the Alex Plus I think it would have come a part. I do however find that once the Alex Plus cures it holds just as good as the Gorilla Glue Construction Adhesive.

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Two glues
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Re: #5

Postby aggie79 » Wed Aug 18, 2021 8:47 pm

Thank you for your explanation! I’m trying to build up my foamie knowledge base for a potential project.


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