It's time for you to be stimulated........

Here's where we keep the polls, and anyone can start a poll!

How do you feel about the Stimulus?

Heck yeah!! Show me the money baby! Smartest thing ever!
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Hell no, another doggone Albatross around our necks.
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Just about right........
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Postby caseydog » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:26 pm

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:surrender: :angel: :surrender: It sounds to me like our members are trying to talk too. ;) :thumbsup: :worship: Oh heck, we are the internet. 8) :lol: :D


I was referring to blogs and such. They originate the rumors, we just spread them. ;)

With so much disinformation -- both conservative and liberal -- out there, it more important now than ever before to seek out reality. Conservatives pretty much own talk-radio, but the internet is pretty full of every kind of ideologically tainted "information."

This democracy thing is hard work. :lol:
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Postby dakotamouse » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:41 pm

This letter to the editor appeared today in the Bismarck Tribune, March 1, 2009. I thought it was pretty darn good.

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The ship was floundering in heavy seas, with waves breaking over the bow. Seeing the ship take on all that water, the passengers were frightened, and looked to the charming and charismatic captain and his willing-and unquestioning crew for help.

The very charming and charismatic captain came out on the poop deck, mustered all his charm and charisma, and smoothly told the passengers to give the willing and unquestioning crew $800 billion and they would be saved.

The passengers swooned and quickly turned over their cash, their checking accounts, their saving accounts, their retirement accounts and their children’s college funds. Then they wrote IOUs to be collected from their children, grandchildren and great- grandchildren to the fifth generation. And so the passengers coughed up the $800 billion.

When this was done, the charming and charismatic captain directed the willing and unquestioning crew to take a big ax and chop holes in the bottom of the ship to let the water drain out. The willing and unquestioning crew leaped to action and chopped holes in the bottom of the ship.

Oops!

Then the willing and unquestioning crew, along with the charming and charismatic captain, grabbed the treasure chest and the barrels of pork from the hold, loaded it all in their private life boats and rowed away.
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Postby Miriam C. » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:41 pm

caseydog wrote:
Miriam C. wrote:
:surrender: :angel: :surrender: It sounds to me like our members are trying to talk too. ;) :thumbsup: :worship: Oh heck, we are the internet. 8) :lol: :D


I was referring to blogs and such. They originate the rumors, we just spread them. ;)

With so much disinformation -- both conservative and liberal -- out there, it more important now than ever before to seek out reality. Conservatives pretty much own talk-radio, but the internet is pretty full of every kind of ideologically tainted "information."

This democracy thing is hard work. :lol:


Well I look at it like this, the check book has passed from Daddy Dearest to Mommy Dearest and the kids are arguing about how to spend the money and who is gonna get their share.
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Postby caseydog » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:35 pm

dakotamouse wrote:This letter to the editor appeared today in the Bismarck Tribune, March 1, 2009. I thought it was pretty darn good.

Mary





Leaving Us On a Sinking Ship

By LEON NESJA

Mandan

The ship was floundering in heavy seas, with waves breaking over the bow. Seeing the ship take on all that water, the passengers were frightened, and looked to the charming and charismatic captain and his willing-and unquestioning crew for help.

The very charming and charismatic captain came out on the poop deck, mustered all his charm and charisma, and smoothly told the passengers to give the willing and unquestioning crew $800 billion and they would be saved.

The passengers swooned and quickly turned over their cash, their checking accounts, their saving accounts, their retirement accounts and their children’s college funds. Then they wrote IOUs to be collected from their children, grandchildren and great- grandchildren to the fifth generation. And so the passengers coughed up the $800 billion.

When this was done, the charming and charismatic captain directed the willing and unquestioning crew to take a big ax and chop holes in the bottom of the ship to let the water drain out. The willing and unquestioning crew leaped to action and chopped holes in the bottom of the ship.

Oops!

Then the willing and unquestioning crew, along with the charming and charismatic captain, grabbed the treasure chest and the barrels of pork from the hold, loaded it all in their private life boats and rowed away.




Yes, it is a pretty good fairy-tale. ;)

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Postby Mary K » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:37 pm

:lol: :o :MLAS
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Postby Dixie Flyer » Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:51 am

Well....out of all this....this is the bottom line.....

The government is creating massive debts that can never be repaid............ever.
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Postby bobhenry » Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:37 am

Dixie Flyer wrote:Well....out of all this....this is the bottom line.....

The government is creating massive debts that can never be repaid............ever.


Kinda like me trying to live on credit cards and unemployment but on a little bigger scale HUH?
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Postby caseydog » Thu Mar 05, 2009 9:14 am

Dixie Flyer wrote:Well....out of all this....this is the bottom line.....

The government is creating massive debts that can never be repaid............ever.


If you look at the chart I posted before, the government debt was being paid down in the nineties, so it CAN be done.
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Postby Miriam C. » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:06 am

Dixie Flyer wrote:Well....out of all this....this is the bottom line.....

The government is creating massive debts that can never be repaid............ever.


:thinking: Unless we bring manufacturing back to the USA.
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Postby Elumia » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:13 am

CD, you are partially right about the 90's. The year on year budget defict was went down to where there was a surplus. However, the national debt continued to increase.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/repo ... histo4.htm

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Postby Nitetimes » Thu Mar 05, 2009 11:36 am

caseydog wrote:
Dixie Flyer wrote:Well....out of all this....this is the bottom line.....

The government is creating massive debts that can never be repaid............ever.


If you look at the chart I posted before, the government debt was being paid down in the nineties, so it CAN be done.


Hmmmm, and just who was paying this debt???? :roll: :roll:
I can see taxes on par with Europe and Britain in the near future..........I thought that was part of what they came over on those boats to get away from............
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Postby Elumia » Thu Mar 05, 2009 12:28 pm

you could always make a contribution:

How do you make a contribution to reduce the debt?
Make your check payable to the Bureau of the Public Debt, and in the memo section, notate that it is a Gift to reduce the Debt Held by the Public. Mail your check to:

Attn Dept G
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P. O. Box 2188
Parkersburg, WV 26106-2188


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Postby Arne » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:03 pm

yup, just keep throwing money at anything they want to... that will fix it all up....

The thing is, if they give us the money, we will spend it where we want to and those are the businesses that should thrive, not the ones the gov't tells us should.

oh, all the add-ons pork that o'bama was going to get rid of... it's still all in the new budget..... same old crap.... change... yah, right...

I want those bastards on soc. sec and our health care system... and we vote on their raises, not them... what a bunch of bull sh.t....

and now, if I get a mortgage, I pay 5%.... if some one was dumb enough to buy a house they could never afford, the will get a 2% mortgage.... rewarding stupidity and ignorance.
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Postby Nitetimes » Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:18 pm

Elumia wrote:you could always make a contribution:

How do you make a contribution to reduce the debt?
Make your check payable to the Bureau of the Public Debt, and in the memo section, notate that it is a Gift to reduce the Debt Held by the Public. Mail your check to:

Attn Dept G
Bureau Of the Public Debt
P. O. Box 2188
Parkersburg, WV 26106-2188


http://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reso ... ebtFinance


I contribute quite enough, thank you very much!!! I think I'll hang on to what little I got left! :roll:
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Postby Nitetimes » Thu Mar 05, 2009 3:19 pm

Arne wrote:yup, just keep throwing money at anything they want to... that will fix it all up....

The thing is, if they give us the money, we will spend it where we want to and those are the businesses that should thrive, not the ones the gov't tells us should.

oh, all the add-ons pork that o'bama was going to get rid of... it's still all in the new budget..... same old crap.... change... yah, right...

I want those bastards on soc. sec and our health care system... and we vote on their raises, not them... what a bunch of bull sh.t....

and now, if I get a mortgage, I pay 5%.... if some one was dumb enough to buy a house they could never afford, the will get a 2% mortgage.... rewarding stupidity and ignorance.


Ain't life grand!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:
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