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Skin options

PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2017 6:52 pm
by Jados
Hey guys I'm getting very close to being able to start skinning my teardrop and realized I'm not totally sure what to skin my trailer with! So to the web I went, only to find that there really isn't a post with the information I have been looking for. Basically I would like to know what works best (for a fairly cheap price) and how you would mount it to the camper. Thanks in advance for the help.

Re: Skin options

PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 12:44 pm
by phazermike
For what its worth I have found an excellent skinning option that is inexpensive, fairly easy to apply, durable, seamless, waterproof, repairable and can be any color. They call it "Poor man's fiberglass" Found a thread on this site a few years ago and used it on my build.

1/8 Plywood base, Titebond 3 waterproof glue, painters drop cloth canvas (spread onto wet glue and rolled out with rolling pin), 4 coats of premium acrylic exterior paint.

Worked so well I built a 10ft plywood Jon boat this spring using the exact same method.

Re: Skin options

PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:37 pm
by jsnbergman
phazermike wrote:For what its worth I have found an excellent skinning option that is inexpensive, fairly easy to apply, durable, seamless, waterproof, repairable and can be any color. They call it "Poor man's fiberglass" Found a thread on this site a few years ago and used it on my build.

1/8 Plywood base, Titebond 3 waterproof glue, painters drop cloth canvas (spread onto wet glue and rolled out with rolling pin), 4 coats of premium acrylic exterior paint.

Worked so well I built a 10ft plywood Jon boat this spring using the exact same method.



Not to Hijack the thread, but need some confirmation. You do NOT use "the mix" before PMF'n correct? The TB wont adhere to the ply if I understand correctly???

Re: Skin options

PostPosted: Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:33 pm
by njhow1
I just skinned my trailer using pmf. I first sanded down all the plywood on mine and filled in low spots with great stuff(I do not recommend this stuff at all). I then poured the Titebond II into a paint roller pan and used a roller to apply the glue to a side. I then took a sheet of drop cloth material and adhered it to the glue using a scrap piece of 2x4 to help smooth out any wrinkles. The last application I added the roof drop cloth which rolled over the side edges and across the front.
After everything dried 1 day of 75-80 degree weather. I started the paint using a roller until everything was saturated. About 3 coats have been applied. Paint I used is exterior latex one coat paint.

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Re: Skin options

PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2017 9:33 pm
by jondbar628
jsnbergman......PMF will glue to "mixed" ply. There have been many successful (and varied) applications using these mediums. I built a foamie, but used many ply "hard points" for attachment & strengthening purposes. I "mixed' all the ply, BUT I used 3 coats on the edges, using (more or less) the accepted mixture progression, and only one coat on the flat surfaces (this flat surface application was roughly 60% thinner, 40% varnish), where I wiped off the excess that didn't absorb after about 8-10 minutes. Painted the entire exterior with Gripper. Used slightly thinned TB2 (maybe 75% GLUE-25% WATER)as the gluing medium applied to the foam/ply, and 50-50 thinned TB2 to wet the canvas - worked wonderfully. This is a variation of the ghcoe method. ........
If I have one piece of advice using PMF, it's USE GOOD CANVAS......I know many here have used HF or Big Box store canvas, and been satisfied with the results. In my build, I bought most of my canvas from Big Duck, but I ran a little short, and since I was in a hurry, I went to Lowes and bought their best 10 oz canvas to finish up a few spots. The difference was night and day. The Big Duck went on smoothly and adhered evenly. Very few air pockets. No pills. Tight weave. Flat seams. No ironing to get it to stick. The Lowes shrunk unevenly, had pills, raised seams, a looser weave, and had to iron several places to get adherence..........ON top of that, the Big Duck was cheaper!.......I think those who have been happy with inferior canvas is because they didn't have experience with good canvas to compare it to.....just my 2 cents.......jd

Re: Skin options

PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2017 11:06 am
by tony.latham
I'm an aluminum guy...

But if I were looking for an alternate skin, I'd also look at fiberglassing––it's not difficult––followed by a colorful bed liner. It's been done on here and makes for a fine looking and protected 'drop.

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Tony

Re: Skin options

PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2017 2:32 pm
by jsnbergman
jondbar628 wrote:jsnbergman......PMF will glue to "mixed" ply. There have been many successful (and varied) applications using these mediums. I built a foamie, but used many ply "hard points" for attachment & strengthening purposes. I "mixed' all the ply, BUT I used 3 coats on the edges, using (more or less) the accepted mixture progression, and only one coat on the flat surfaces (this flat surface application was roughly 60% thinner, 40% varnish), where I wiped off the excess that didn't absorb after about 8-10 minutes. Painted the entire exterior with Gripper. Used slightly thinned TB2 (maybe 75% GLUE-25% WATER)as the gluing medium applied to the foam/ply, and 50-50 thinned TB2 to wet the canvas - worked wonderfully. This is a variation of the ghcoe method. ........
If I have one piece of advice using PMF, it's USE GOOD CANVAS......I know many here have used HF or Big Box store canvas, and been satisfied with the results. In my build, I bought most of my canvas from Big Duck, but I ran a little short, and since I was in a hurry, I went to Lowes and bought their best 10 oz canvas to finish up a few spots. The difference was night and day. The Big Duck went on smoothly and adhered evenly. Very few air pockets. No pills. Tight weave. Flat seams. No ironing to get it to stick. The Lowes shrunk unevenly, had pills, raised seams, a looser weave, and had to iron several places to get adherence..........ON top of that, the Big Duck was cheaper!.......I think those who have been happy with inferior canvas is because they didn't have experience with good canvas to compare it to.....just my 2 cents.......jd



Thanks! I have already done the sides, I did use the big box store canvas. Shrunk it at the laundromat and ironed on the dining room table. Went well enough and pretty smooth, no ironing on the trailer. Got a couple coats of primer on and working towards the exterior coats. I did just order the canvas from bigduck for the hatch as that is the part I want to turn out looking as good as possible. Thanks for the info, I wish I would have looked harder for a supplier It would have been nice to order all from them. Im happy with how the cheap canvas is progressing, so looking forward the using theirs. :thumbsup: