Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

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Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

Postby JokerOne » Fri May 22, 2020 3:47 pm

For an off road trailer, does it make sense to have Mud terrain tires like these considering they are not connected to a drive shaft in any way.
Does it make more sense (for lower drag / better gas mileage ) to have a 10 ply truck tire with street tread and not off road tread?

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Re: Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

Postby onehoser » Fri May 22, 2020 4:51 pm

it's nice to have spares if the wheels are the same size and fit on your off road/tow rig
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Re: Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

Postby JokerOne » Fri May 22, 2020 5:18 pm

onehoser wrote:it's nice to have spares if the wheels are the same size and fit on your off road/tow rig
:)


That was what I was thinking but I have all terrain tires (Nitto Terra grapplers , and I love them).

Other than that is their any advantage?

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Re: Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

Postby lfhoward » Fri May 22, 2020 6:35 pm

JokerOne wrote:Other than that is their any advantage?

thanks.

I think looking awesome is an advantage. 8)
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Re: Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

Postby JokerOne » Fri May 22, 2020 7:25 pm

lfhoward wrote:
JokerOne wrote:Other than that is their any advantage?

thanks.

I think looking awesome is an advantage. 8)


does look pretty cool doesn't it.
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Re: Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

Postby KSBOWHTR » Sat May 23, 2020 6:50 am

I can't think there is any advantage. But they look really good!!
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Re: Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

Postby tony.latham » Sat May 23, 2020 9:21 am

I run 6-ply LT tires and have not had a flat with them since 2013.

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I don't believe there's an advantage of an aggressive tread on a trailer. I don't travel on inclined slopes with trailers when it's slick.

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Re: Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

Postby hankaye » Sat May 23, 2020 10:39 am

Howdy All;

Not truly functional but have that "Looks Good" thing goin' for'em.

My opinion on "look good" is like adding all kinds of chrome to a Harley.
Might "Look Good" but, ... chrome won't get ya Home. Would rather
have functional, ymmv.

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Re: Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

Postby troubleScottie » Sat May 23, 2020 11:43 am

The only functionality might be associated with braking assuming there are brakes on the trailer. It is not obvious if this would be any better than any tire with trailer brakes.
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Re: Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

Postby hankaye » Sat May 23, 2020 9:36 pm

Howdy All;

My post above it strictly an opinion, mine. Not meant to frustrate or belittle someone
else's decision on how they put their trailer together. But, it's still my opinion.

Now about the breaking thing...

Weight on wheels has the most impact on how functional the breaks will be.
More weight, = more functional. up to a point, of course, there is always that point.

When you see a Big truck (semi), rollin' along folks generally think oh, he can stop quick
he's got them air breaks and big honkin' pads to grab that disk or w i d e shoes inside those
large wheel. Funny thing is that truck's tires need a lot of weight to flatten the bottoms
of the tires so there is sufficient for friction to allow the breaks to work. Think about this,
the worst case of a vehicle needing to stop in a hurry is a Bob-tailin' Semi (no trailer). Zero
weight to speak of to press those tires on to the pavement add a small amount of moisture :frightened:
I hated drivin' bob-tail. 1 I wasn't gettin' paid (no load), and 2 how dangerous it was. So,
give those guy an gals room and some respect, they earned it.
Breaks on a CT are good. they won't stop a space schuttle but neither will a Toyota.

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Re: Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

Postby JokerOne » Sat May 23, 2020 10:43 pm

tony.latham wrote:I run 6-ply LT tires and have not had a flat with them since 2013.

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I don't believe there's an advantage of an aggressive tread on a trailer. I don't travel on inclined slopes with trailers when it's slick.

:thinking:

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I think the ply rating is necessary. But I think you are correct, no advantage of the aggressive tread that I can think of other than being swappable with your tow vehicle if needed.
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Re: Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

Postby JokerOne » Sat May 23, 2020 10:44 pm

hankaye wrote:Howdy All;

Not truly functional but have that "Looks Good" thing goin' for'em.

My opinion on "look good" is like adding all kinds of chrome to a Harley.
Might "Look Good" but, ... chrome won't get ya Home. Would rather
have functional, ymmv.

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Hank, thanks. and I agree. My wife is all about form, and I'm all about function. :D
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Re: Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

Postby JokerOne » Sat May 23, 2020 10:45 pm

troubleScottie wrote:The only functionality might be associated with braking assuming there are brakes on the trailer. It is not obvious if this would be any better than any tire with trailer brakes.


thats a good point I hadn't considered. thanks!
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Re: Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

Postby DamonH » Mon Jun 01, 2020 3:32 pm

Mud terrain tires have reinforced sidewalls that are made to withstand sharp or jagged rocks off-road. Where I go in Wyoming the rocks are pretty sharp and can catch a sidewall just right causing unrepairable damaged to a tire. I haven't had any issues once changing to off roading tires. Other than that, it's mostly just the looks factor.
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Re: Mud terrain tires on a cargo trailer?

Postby Squigie » Tue Jun 02, 2020 10:05 am

I've had aggressive tires on two trailers, and military "zig-zag" tread on one of those plus another. (Think, "snow tires from the '60s.")

Aggressive tread patterns offer some advantage. Notably, they help the trailer resist falling into ruts, sliding off rocks, or sliding down off-camber roads/slopes.

But if you don't take the trailer off road or down rough roads, the only real benefits are sidewall flex and puncture resistance (most designs, but not all).


Whether one wants to consider it related or unrelated, another observation I have made was that 'average' car/LT tire widths are great for highway use, but sub-par off road. When off road, pizza cutters or super-wide offered the best traction - particularly resistance to sliding on obstacles or slopes. The typical widths in between were less stable.
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