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Towing with a Yaris

Postby KendCo » Thu Sep 10, 2020 7:44 am

I bought my Yaris ('10 5 door model) last year because it's all I needed to putt around in, go camping, kayaking and what not but now I want to build a camper. The plan is to build it from a northern tool 5x8 with mostly foam walls and PMF. I'm guessing that the camper, once all is said and done, should be relatively light. Is this feasible? I'd really rather not have to upgrade so soon. I like this little car and would much rather keep it for a while.
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Re: Towing with a Yaris

Postby Squigie » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:04 am

Other opinions will differ.

In my opinion, it is inappropriate, unless a bespoke 'ultra-light' trailer is built for it, from scratch.
Look to our Euro friends for light car, ultra-light 'teardrop' design inspiration - particularly the monocoque and hand-laminated 'capsules'.

More specifically...
The Yaris has no official tow rating in the US, because Toyota doesn't think it is suitable for towing. This, in itself, could present legal issues in some areas.
Many of the hitches on the market are only rated for 1,000 lb due to the manner in which it attaches to the vehicle.
Even in the countries where Toyota does allow a government-limited tow rating, it always requires trailer brakes, no more than 89 kg (200 lb) tongue weight, and a maximum of 1,050 kg (2,365 lb) trailer weight.

That unofficial towing capacity seems helpful and like a step in the right direction, until you note that the car itself already has trouble climbing hills, getting out of its own way, and already weighs 2,346 lbs empty. It is also just ... really out there for a car so light and under-powered.
They were built for economy, not utility.
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Re: Towing with a Yaris

Postby gudmund » Thu Sep 10, 2020 11:49 am

"Other opinions will differ" Squigie !!Not mine!! Squigie, I -AGREE- with everything you have said here!!!! This would be like me wanting to tow a teardrop with one of the GEO/Suzuki Swift's 'driver's' I have owned over the years (7 so far since '87) I WOULD NEVER THINK OF DOING IT!! :shock:
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Re: Towing with a Yaris

Postby KendCo » Fri Sep 11, 2020 12:35 am

Yeah, that's what I was afraid of I guess. I've been looking into getting a RAV4 if I couldn't tow safely with the Yaris. I just like it so much :'( y'all have given me a good bit to think about. Thanks for the advice.
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Re: Towing with a Yaris

Postby working on it » Fri Sep 11, 2020 8:21 am

* If you're not ready to give up your Yaris as the vehicle-of-choice quite yet, how about getting a hatchback tent? It would enable you to use the Yaris as the base of operations, holding most of your gear without unpacking, and would also be handy to get into if weather turns very rough (I hated T-storms while tent camping, yet not so much if inside my squareback TTT, or even inside my 2009 Chevy HHR Panel).

* I built my trailer to be used with my HHR or my wife's Cobalt coupe, but it turned out to be much too heavy for those to tow (Chevy puts a 1000-lb towing limit on them), and the wife actually refused to camp in it (she felt too enclosed, preferring a Coleman tent). So, I thought of a compromise for her to use...a truck-bed tent (for her GMC Sierra pickup, or a hatchback-tent for the HHR, just to get her off the ground if needed. She would camp with her friends, and would invariably come home with a saturated interior in the tent. I found the "Napier Sportz Dome-To-Go Hatchback Tent", and was about to buy it, when she retired from camping altogether, and my trailer was perfect for my camping needs, so I never bought it.

* If I had bought it, it would've worked fine with the HHR. I had spent many a night sleeping in it (no tent), with just a sleeping bag and space heater, when I would be trapped at work (120 mile round-trip from home) during ice-storms. I was usually working 16+ hours a day during those times, making the long trip home not feasible.

* Anyway, the hatchback tent is available at Amazon or many other vendors, usually for $290. It might be worth trying while you build a suitable trailer/find a heavier-duty tow vehicle, if you might want to camp immediately.
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Re: Towing with a Yaris

Postby Florida Native » Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:53 am

I'll go against the grain and say a Yaris could handle a lightweight foamie just fine if you just have one or two people.

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Towing with a Yaris

Postby Pinstriper » Fri Sep 11, 2020 3:02 pm

I'll go against the grain and say a Yaris could handle a lightweight foamie just fine if you just have one or two people PUSHING IT FROM BEHIND


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Re: Towing with a Yaris

Postby Sandman333 » Thu Sep 17, 2020 4:42 pm

A good starting point for any car, is that you should be able to tow anything that a motorcycle can. There are lots of folding motorcycle tent trailers, you can check your local offerup or craigslist. Here's an example of what to look for: https://www.timeouttrailers.org/TimeOut ... camper.htm

If you want to build, here are some plans for a trailer that could be towed behind a yaris:
http://tnttt.com/Design_Library/The%20Pico-Light.htm
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Re: Towing with a Yaris

Postby cwegga » Sun Sep 20, 2020 1:18 am

It may be possible, but like everyone is saying you would need to build super-ultralight. Here's an example of a micro camping trailer being towed by a Yaris.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPJiw1_lDLw
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Re: Towing with a Yaris

Postby Richard Grotto » Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:42 pm

Building a light camper is great. But you don't want to make it too flimsy, if it is too weak and you hit a pothole on the street, will it collapse? Will you be able to take it off-road in any fashion?
Think sturdy more than light. If your car cant tow a 800lb trailer safely, you might look at getting a more robust car/light truck. JMO.
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Re: Towing with a Yaris

Postby BigGoofyGuy » Sun Sep 27, 2020 9:58 pm

or turn ones Prius into a camper?
https://rvshare.com/blog/prius-camper/
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