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Postby SaGR » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:57 am

goldcoop wrote:Check out:

http://tinyurl.com/7nrxw

At $17.95/ 4' x 8' sheet that is 1/16" thick, UV stable this stuff calcs. to $o.56/sq ft.!


Has anyone used this?

I called Farm & Fleet and they can get it for me on special order. Price is only a few cents more.
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Postby cracker39 » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:26 am

That stuff looks like a good fit for outside skins. It has to be light at only 1/16" thick and has a UV inhibitor. I wish I had known about it when I was in the building stage. I may have tried it over a 1/8" ply underskin. Even over 1/4" ply, it wouldn't add a lot of weight. I wonder how it would trim with a laminate edge trim router bit. I wonder what they use for joining edges. The pictures aren't large enough to tell what type of trim is used.
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Postby SaGR » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:34 am

I've seen stuff like that as pictured in the image at car washes. I remember looking ti it one time and the panels were joined with an H channel, I'll assume (I know, bad idea! Ass-U-Me) it's glued in the H channel.

Since we're going to build an 8' long Benroy, it's perfect.

The roof is another question but I guess one could carefully plot it out and hit the hinge point or just before it and then glue in the H channel like you'd use on thresholds for floor linoleum.
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Postby angib » Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:08 am

We've discussed PolyMax before - although it says 'UV resistant', the product spec says 'for interior use only'.

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Postby Podunkfla » Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:59 pm

angib wrote:We've discussed PolyMax before - although it says 'UV resistant', the product spec says 'for interior use only'.

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Hmmm... Even so... at less than a hundred bucks to cover a tear it might be worth trying? Particularly, teardrops that are stored in a garage most of the time. Just thinkin... :lol:
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Postby Greg M » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:09 pm

Someone used Polymax a while ago, and they found that the heat expansion was a real problem for them. I recall that it bubbled up like crazy when it was in the sun.

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Postby angib » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:48 pm

Podunkfla wrote:... at less than a hundred bucks to cover a tear it might be worth trying?

Yes, particularly if you think of it as paint that comes in sheet form - it may need re-doing in a few years time if the UV gets to it, but at that price it's a fair deal.

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Postby madjack » Sun Jun 03, 2007 10:43 pm

...use what ya want BUT the few here who have tried it were very disatisfied with the final results...the high thermal characteristics of plastics caused sever oil canning problems...also finding a suitable adhesive for it can be VERY hard...I know it looks/sounds good but personally, I would recommend against the poly sheeting...
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Postby Geron » Mon Jun 04, 2007 5:28 am

madjack wrote:
dacrazyrn wrote:I received a sample pack from Kemlite and had described my plan for their product. Wonder why they would send it if I couldn't order it.


TrimLok corp. Makes every kind of seal and trim you might possible want in various rubber and plastic. When we called for more info they sent us a sample pak...when we called about ordering, we were informed that they deal with the RV/Auto indistry and would have to order at least 500 ft of some product...1000 ft of some others...just because they send a sample pack does not mean they are gonna sell you just enough for your personal needs...just relating my experience with a different but similar co........
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Postby Boodro » Mon Jun 04, 2007 8:43 pm

An update on the Dew Drop Inn that is clad in FRP. NOT PAINTED!

It has been sitting outside for almost 3 years now , all year long.( under a cherry tree,with birds too) I am in the process of rebuilding my hatch because of the way the hinge was installed . I had a leak . :( :( Anyway , the FRP has shown NO yellowing, No cracking, No brittleness,No oil canning, & it cleans up very nicely with it original sheen ,with washing with a brush that I use on my cars. I had to tear off the frp from my hatch & it was extremly tough , I had to break it where I have a piece of AL on the edge & it was hard to do. I used the FRP adheisive & trowled it on with a notched trowel . I will post some pics soon. Would I recommend FRP , yes if you really like the look .

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Postby Podunkfla » Mon Jun 04, 2007 9:44 pm

Boodro... Yeah, I have been thinking about using FRP for a long time... I use a lot of it in the restaurant maintainance I do, so I am very familiar with it's properties. It wouldn't bother me to have to paint it anyway... It's hard to find it in any colors other than white & ivory around here; neither of which I like for a woodie sided tear? Good to hear of your experience with it. :thumbsup:
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Postby sid » Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:25 am

Boodro's FRP and my Polymax are 2 different materials.....

And yes, Polymax has a mind of it's own when the heat from the sun hits it. It has been applied several different ways with the same result... bad...
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Postby Podunkfla » Wed Jun 06, 2007 12:43 pm

sid wrote:Boodro's FRP and my Polymax are 2 different materials.....

And yes, Polymax has a mind of it's own when the heat from the sun hits it. It has been applied several different ways with the same result... bad...


Seems to me the Polymax stuff lacks the fiberglass component of FRP and is just too thin maybe for our application? Good info... Hey... that's why the feedback from this forum is so cool! :thumbsup:
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Postby MOKI SEAKER » Wed Jun 06, 2007 3:27 pm

Got the plastic stuff from lowes, don't know what it is called? Moving the unit from Utah to Phoenix, did raise some bubbles on the skin. mostly on the hatch, I had a friend put that piece on for me, and do not know how it was clamped. The sides were glued with the recommended adhesive pressed againsed the floor with about 1,000# of 5 gallion paint cans and do not have any bubbles. If it is not UV protected I will worry about replacing the sheathing later, time to go camping... Jim G :R :R
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Postby foolsfortune » Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:29 pm

What if it was just screwed into place every foot or so so it could expand and contract at a rate other than what the wood....would?

It could be trimmed with your angle edging where needed and sealed up so that water din't get under it.......
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