Terry's TTT Garageable Standy Build modifications

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Terry's TTT Garageable Standy Build modifications

Postby terryjones1 » Wed Oct 13, 2010 11:55 am

My TTT requirements:

want garageable <84" height
- I have to park it in garage.
want "standy" >69" inside height (drop floor)
- I am <68-1/2" tall.
want >= 60" wide bed
- Nice size.
want 26" W door
- Looks big enough to go through,
want drop floor - 7"
- need to be garageable & "standy"
want 48" dinette
- nice size. can fold to 2nd bed.
want 12 DCV refrigerator (left side, next to dinette)
- I have had 3 DC refrigerators previously.
- Norcold DC51 has very low current draw.
want porta potti (right side at dropped floor, under refrigerator)
- needs to slide out, primarily for night use.
want water sys (sink at left side, tanks under bed)
- like simple water system
want AC
- can get hot in areas that I go to.
want Group 31 AGM battery (under bed)
- need large battery, primarily for refrigerator.
want trailer to be <192" (16 ft) overall
- want to register in California as Permanent Trailer.
want converter/charger
- Power center & battery charger

Plans - Decided upon the following:

Axle

UCF Flexiride Axle - 3500 lb downrated to 2500 lb
Bracket Diminsion = 56"
Hubface 68.5"
Overhang = 6.25"

5 x 4.5 hub & drum
10" x 2.25" electric brakes
wheels - 5 x 4.5 - 14" - rim width 6" - no offset
tires - 195/75-14 - 7.68" tire width, 23.2" diameter

Frame

Main Frame = 2" x 3" - .120 tubing
Main Frame at drop floor = 2" x 2" - .188 tubing
Back of frame to start of drop floor = 73-3/4"
(bed width = 60")
Back of frame to end of drop floor = 102-3/4"
drop floor height = 7"
drop floor back to front = 28"
Back of frame to front of frame (excluding tongue) = 151-1/2"
dinette width = 48"
Back of frame to end of A-frame = 181.75"
Back of frame to end of tongue = 190.75"
Back of frame to center of axle = 58"
Main Frame width = 56"
Overall frame width = 78"

Body

Overall body length = 152"
Overall body width = 78-1/2"
Inside & outside wall covering, roof inside & outside covering = 1/4" plywood
Side Wall framing = 3/4" H x 1" W actual size (3/4" H x 1-1/2" W at seams)
Front & back wall framing = 1" H x 1-1/2" W
Roof framing (spars) = 1" H x 3/4" W (1" H x 1" W at seams)
Outside side & roof finish covering = epoxy + paint
Entrance door will be on right side
Two windows will be on both sides. None in front or rear
Fantastic Vent at front wall
Air Conditioneer/heater at back wall

I will make height clearance measurements, every foot, or so, as I back trailer frame into garage. From that, I will be able to determine body height, and final shape. Trailer will have rounded off front & back

Inside

front dinette = 48" width x >72" length (folds into 48" W bed)
rear bed >= 64" width x >= 76" length
cabinet on left side at drop floor that will hold refrigerator & Porta Potti
cabinet at right to rear of door
sink & faucet will be on cabinet
water tanks under bed
Portable 1 burner stove on cabinet
AGM battery under bed
Converter/charger will be mounted at the side of left bench seat.
Window Air Conditioneer at back.
Storage - under bed, under dinette benches, in cabinets

I have made my first steps in getting started with my TTT project.

I have drawn frame plans & floor plans, using Design CAD.

I have purchased most of steel.

I have ordered the Flexiride axle.

I have ordered & received the wheel rims, tongue, stabilizer jacks, tongue jack.

I have cut the steel for 80% of the main frame.

I have welded plates to the ends of the main frame tubing.

I am on hold until I receive the axle.

Just to provide some picture. Below is most of the cut steel tubing for the main frame:

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Postby terryjones1 » Sat Oct 16, 2010 5:24 pm

Shown below is the two side rails of the main frame. Notice the 7" drop floor. Next I will install the A-frame, tongue and cross framing

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Postby wlivesey » Sat Oct 16, 2010 6:18 pm

It looks like you've got a really great start on your build. Your chassis is looking great. Since you haven't decided on the profile quite yet, I'll throw in my two cents. How about something with a Widget influence??? Maybe something like my Long Widget design would work for you. http://www.mikenchell.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=636661&sid=2dcdfdd519426f662e19b47c6fb839c6

I'm going to have to keep an eye on this one. :)
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Postby myoung » Sun Oct 17, 2010 12:30 am

From what I can read between the lines, it seems like you are going to build quite a large TTT. Hope you will post the plans soon. This should be interesting.
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Postby terryjones1 » Thu Oct 21, 2010 5:44 pm

Shown below is a rough profile drawing of what the trailer will look like.
The windows and door will probably be rounded.
The final profile will be determined on clearance measurements that I will make while backing the finished frame with tires mounted, into the garage.
The approach to my garage is slightly uphill.

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Postby terryjones1 » Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:03 pm

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Postby terryjones1 » Sat Oct 30, 2010 6:33 pm

Shown below is the floor Plan:

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I am now approximately 80 % complete with construction of the frame. I will soon post pictures of the frame.
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Terry's TTT Standy Build - Flexiride Axle

Postby terryjones1 » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:06 am

After 5 trys and 2 months, I finally received a Flexiride Axle that was manufactued as I specified.

Specifications:
side mount
3500 pound axle
downrated to 2500 pounds
bracket deminsion = 56"
hub face = 68.5"
overhand = 6.25"

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I will now weld on axle side mount brackets that I made.
Welding on frame is 98% complete.
Painting on frame is 50% complete.
1/2" flooring plywood is 100% cut and trimed to fit frame.
Pictures will follow when frame is finished painting.
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Postby terryjones1 » Thu Dec 09, 2010 5:13 pm

Below is a picture of a setup I tryed for straightening frame warp from welding. I broke the 1/4" steel rope. That was the end of that adventure.

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I have cut out all of the plywood floring for the trailer. I used 1/2" AC plywood. I treated the plywood edges, and knots & voids on "C" side of plywood with 2 coats of ROT Doctor's CPES. After the CPES treatment, I filled the Knots & voids on the "C" side of the plywood with RAKA 127/608 epoxy kit thickened with pine sawdust filler. Below is a picture of the larger pieces of flooring plywood

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Below is a picture of the small pieces of plywood. These will be used at the drop floor setback, the rear of fender area, and the front of fender area.

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Next, I will be applying fiberglass to the plywood at rear of fender area, and the front of fender area.

I will , also, be splicing plywood for front and back floor areas.

I have pretty much completed the frame.

When I remove the plywood & plastic cover for the frame I will post pictures of frame.
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Postby bdosborn » Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:49 pm

terryjones1 wrote:Shown below is the floor Plan:

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I am now approximately 80 % complete with construction of the frame. I will soon post pictures of the frame.


Interesting, will you have a door in the back?

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Postby 2bits » Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:54 pm

I will enjoy watching this build! You have the eye and skill for detail!
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Postby terryjones1 » Fri Dec 10, 2010 8:56 am

The door will be on the right side of the trailer. I know that it is hard to see; but, it is marked "Entry" in red.
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Postby terryjones1 » Fri Dec 10, 2010 11:32 am

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Postby bdosborn » Fri Dec 10, 2010 2:51 pm

terryjones1 wrote:The door will be on the right side of the trailer. I know that it is hard to see; but, it is marked "Entry" in red.


You might think about a door in the rear. That way the sleeper next to the wall doesn't have to crawl over the other to get out in the middle of the night.
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