DD, on the road to LCG

Gary,

I'll say it was a memorable day! :p

First time out in the daylight and the DD looks incredible! Can't wait to see it in person next month.

Take care,
Tom
 
Congratulations on the out-of-the-garage debut!

I love the way you did the door. It looks like the back end of an Indian's arrow. It breaks up the straight stream of wood and adds a nice touch.
She's going to be a head-turner in the campgrounds! :applause:
 
Hi StPatrón/Gary,

The Dumpster Diner is looking fantastic. The full impact of the ceder
strips is really apparent now that we can see the full view of the sides.
That is a sharp look!

The door treatment was/is an inspiration! It reminds me of the various
multi-thickness antique European plank doors I've seen pics of in various
architectural books. It was really a flash of brilliance to do the door strips
in a herringbone pattern! Instant appeal and avoidance of the tedious
possibility of having to align all the cedar strips up to match horizontally.

Your build is an epitome of personalized style and function. A great job!
Godspeed on finishing up the remaining final details.

Cheers,
Norm/mezmo
 
Jpageau":1wq6764b said:
what a beauty man!!!! nice!!!! LOVE the cedar siding. :applause: :thumbsup:

Thank you. Those are just thin strips ripped from box store cedar fence pickets, attached over an epoxied surface using Titebond and lotza brad nails. Lots and lots of sanding, followed by fiberglass tape on the joints and multiple coats of epoxy resin with fine sanding in between coats.

I was going for the random look in length and color, similar to a cedar strip kayak I once built. That required sorting of the wood during purchase and also during application. Add to the mix the varying width of the strips and I wound up with numerous piles to select from. Once the strips are cut and sorted the applicaton goes fairly quickly. The sanding and epoxy coating and dry time take time, lots and lots of time. I'm satisfied with the look but didn't plan on it. It was an alternative decision after the fabric application failure. All's well that ends well. :LOL:

Cedar is a delightful wood to work with, IMO. The aroma fills the shop. I made my door and drawer pulls and curtain rod holders from cedar limb trimmings. It's easy to sand and shave with a chisel but the softness and brittleness can sometimes be a pain. Always a trade-off.

There are several cedar builds featured here on the forum. The Juneau Dave and Bohemian builds are real beauties! Check those out if you haven't already. And, I just remembered... there is also a build by... I think it is... CocaColaTeardrop. I took a pic of it at a Beavers Bend gathering. If I'm not mistaken this is what you have in mind?

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mezmo":1n7zo0yz said:
Hi StPatrón/Gary

Hi Norm/mezmo. Thank you for your generous compliments and welcome to the cedar madhouse! I think it was Sharon who mentioned one time that these builds often take a life and direction of their own. That couldn't have been more true in my case. I'm basically a function over form kinda guy but everytime I hit a brick wall I found myself falling back on a cedar strip solution. One idea then lead to another and the madness continued... even with the cat bowls holder. :LOL:

The only downfall I see with my spontaneous approach is... well, the simple lack of planning. The streetside is too "plain looking", IMO. That big stretch of cedar strips only broken up by one window and the electrical inlet plug. I didn't want a window in the bathroom or closet so that only leaves design work in the cedar as an option. Better planning would have solved that but I suppose I'll always be parking it with the fancy door side facing out. :LOL:

I didn't set out to build a camper that would attract a lot of attention, just something that pleased me in layout, conveniences and style. All in all I'm satisfied with how it turned out and look forward to putting the finishing touches on it and camping in it. If others admire it too, that's a nice and unexpected bonus.

More pics to come later as I complete the galley and other details.

Thanks, Norm!
 
Jpageau, Tom and Sharon:

Thank you for the compliments and sharing in the excitement of the daylight debut of DD. While hauling tools back and forth to the shop today I had a couple of moments when it hit me... hey, I'm going to be camping soon! In DD! No more crawling in and out of the truck over the tailgate! It was cool to finally get a view from a distance, my working aisles were about 24" wide on all sides. I'm at the mercy of the weather now but I've got plenty of room to work. Life is good!
 
StPatrón":kzcj0n7l said:
If I'm not mistaken this is what you have in mind?

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yes! That's what i'm going for more or less. I can only hope mine will be HALF as good as that one. i'm most nervous about the galley hatch. did you use a hurricane hinge or a piano hinge?

so you used cedar fence ripped to size? great idea! its really cool how every build has that personal builder "touch". the more i see the more i'm intrigued . seriously, congrats on such a great build! you should be proud! :applause:
 
Jpageau":303oou1z said:
i'm most nervous about the galley hatch. did you use a hurricane hinge or a piano hinge?

Neither. I used what's referred to as a "Living Hinge", the plastic strip hinge. A hurricane hinge wasn't an option, I don't think they come in the length I needed. And, I wasn't willing to sacrifice a kidney for a customized length hurricane hinge. A piano hinge would have worked. I read many great reviews on the plastic hinge and went with it based on recommendations here by Madjack and some others. And, it was reasonably priced. So far I'm very pleased with it.

The hatch build is commonly dreaded. However, most report that it wasn't near as bad as they had anticipated. Put me on that list. Build it in place with shims for clearance is the best approach, IMO. Total hatch weight will be heavier but I like the protection that the "overhang style" provides.
In addition to reviewing the Gen-Ben plans, study the build threads and pics of your favorite builders and you will find all you need to know. Don't sweat the hatch. If I can build one anyone can.

Here's a pic of the hinge area. It's hidden under the aluminum reinforcing strips. I pre-drilled the aluminum and used stainless steel screws to attach it.
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campmasterk":2ilr7d81 said:
Gary - your build is very cool. Attention getting details be ready to give tours. :thumbsup:

Thank you, Kirk. It would be fun pulling it around the campground with that Deere of yours! :LOL:
 
Thanks for taking time to give me advice. I'd go with the piano hinge but , that's where I get stuck... Price. I'm going to look onto that hinge you used.

I love this forum! it seems if you are stuck 20 different ways of doing something are explained. So cool! Looking forward to gaining some knowledge and experience in TD builds to pass back . I've got the bug bad. I doubt one build will be enough. Better build ONE first. Haha!!

Thanks again Gary ! You rock brother!!
 
I am soooo pleased for you, to see the Dumpster Diner out there.

Having Google Earth viewed your small farm, I am pleased you could get her out the shop.

Looks great !!

Hope you will be posting some more outdoor detailed pics later, with stuff that gives perspective.
 
Hi Gary/StPatron,

Your welcome!

I'll do a fast chime in here for a your mention of the street side not being
as interesting to you.

Since you are in OK why not do some Native American designs applied
on top of the strips as an applique or shallow bas relief or a "thicker"
marquetry type design and then epoxied over etc.. Maybe do the shield
design from the OK State flag - or the sun symbol on the NM State flag ?

Here's a Googled web site for Native American Designs:
http://buckagram.com/buck/symbols/
I'm sure you can find more for whatever [designs] way you want to go
through Google.

You could use some of the remaining cedar strips cut into pieces like
those used for mosaics for designs too. Based on your results so far I'm
sure you'll do yourself proud with whatever design you come up with.

Here's an album pic from Alan and Lianna's Album showing a great 3D
or backlit bas relief light screen they did in their TD:
http://tnttt.com/album_ ... c_id=83136
Maybe it can inspire you for something for the exterior of the Dumpster
Diner's street side?

Best of luck as you finish 'er out.

Cheers,
Norm/mezmo
 
Thanks for all the terrific ideas and links, Norm. :applause:

For now I'm going to focus on getting DD road ready. Then, some type of design on that side sounds like a good winter project. I've also considered building another dinette table with an inlay design.
 
grizz":1o0lrlwi said:
Having Google Earth viewed your small farm, I am pleased you could get her out the shop.

If I had it to do over, I think using a helicopter would be a wise choice. :LOL:

The whole process was a comedy of errors. At one point I just had to sit on the wet ground and laugh.

That old, steel wheel on the tongue jack has two problems. One, it was designed to slide on from the bottom, then a partial twist to lock it in place. The twist lock channel is no more, rusted. So, the wheel has a tendency to drop off at the most inopportune times. Secondly, the wheel rolls fine but doesn't rotate freely so you can change direction. The danged jack and wheel hadn't posed a problem yet and was therefore low on the to-do list. After all... I hadn't planned on a major move yet.

I had created a tiny runway of 2 x 6's for the jack wheel and everything was going fine. I planned to snap a few pics and then push her back in the shop. Everything went downhill (pun intended) when the tires got too close to the sloped area of the concrete and she came rolling out. Instinctively I tried stopping her but I'm not as young as I used to be. With thoughts racing through my mind of being crushed to death by my own almost-finished camper , I bailed. The steel wheel reached the end of the runway and disappeared in the mud. Super!

Ok, what to do now? I'm running out of daylight and for some reason I'm compelled to get DD on the driveway. I get the jack out, some short lengths of assorted 2 x 4's and 4 x 4's and begin raising the jack. You probably know how well that works on soggy ground. Lose two inches for every inch gained in height. :LOL:

As the tongue comes out of the muck, the wheel is left behind. I dig it out, work it back on to the stem, lay down the next section of runway and smack the wheel with a piece of 2 x 4 to line it up. Then, lower DD off the jack and muscle her into a tight 90 degree turn. I gain about 8 inches of forward progress before the wheel won't turn. Get the jack supports in place, raise the jack so that pressure is off the wheel, line it up again, lower and gain about 6 inches of forward progress. Ok.. time for plan B.

I back my Ford to the shop, the plan being to get DD on the hitch and pull her out to the driveway. That ought to work, huh? Well, not quite. I knew that there was going to be quite a difference in the height of my 4WD truck and the low-rider, squatty body DD and had measured the difference and purchased a drop hitch. I figured I'd just take the 1-7/8" ball off the straight tube and install it on the new drop hitch. Into the shop for the monster wrench. Snugged it up on the nut and no go. Cheater bar, no go. Ok.. plan.. what is it now, C? I'll just jack DD high enough to get her on the straight hitch. Piled the lumber up, got jack in position and was about 2 inches from being on the money when the back end of the chassis met the shop concrete. Oh, and the jack height was maxed out too.

Hmmm, maybe if I put my 2" ball on the drop hitch, I can pull DD far enough to clear the concrete shop floor, with a chain wrap added for grins. I swap out the hitches, lower DD on, fire up the truck and gain just enough forward progress that the chassis clears the concrete before coming off the ball. Yes! With that hurdle overcome, I then swapped hitches again, jacked her onto the straight hitch and pulled her on out to the driveway and backed her in place.

One of my neighbors was having a pool party and as I was driving by, just a few feet from their fence, I wondered what they would think when seeing a truck and trailer pass by, lights ablaze. Sure enough, next afternoon the neighbor wandered over and asked me,

"Was I that blitzed last night or did you drive a travel trailer past my back yard fence?"

"Turst me, it wasn't exactly planned to happen that way." :LOL:
 
Congratulations Gary

Looks like your getting pretty close now. It looks very nice and you should be proud of it. I think I have 3 pieces of trim left to finish and mines done. I haven't worked on it for a couple month now. I'm planing on the White Rim Trail in November. What do you think your next one will be like :LOL: I've been thinking about an 18 foot flatbed trailer with a camper on the front for the side by side.
 
jkidd6339":1s838y2r said:
Congratulations Gary

What do you think your next one will be like :LOL: I've been thinking about an 18 foot flatbed trailer with a camper on the front for the side by side.

Thanks, Jody. The finishing touches are keeping me busy and the title/registration dance (fiasco) has begun. Triple yecch! White Rim in November, perfecto. I'm jealous. Next build? Earlier I had thoughts of doing another but for now I hope to enjoy DD for a bit. Super video of 50-mile, best ever, that Mokai is very kewl!
 
DD's got a tag!

I can't begin to describe what a major relief this is. Last Wednesday, while at the OK Tax Commission office, I thought that my plans to attend LCG were doomed. And, that it could be months before I got to take her on the road at all. The "Private Trailer" tag is the answer.

Crummy pic but I'm fired up!!

In my next installment I plan to post the final pictures, still have some finishing touches to work on in the meantime and that list seems to grow daily. After a long drought it rained here and I moved DD into my old, single car garage. Side clearance was 7" per side and door height clearance was 3 inches. Now, skies are clear, DD is back on the driveway and work continues.

My sincere thanks goes out to so many here, without your help a project like this would never be possible. I suspect I'll leave out some names but I want to thank the following:

First and foremost....

Mike Schneider for providing this forum, the hub of the big wheel of teardrop and tiny travel trailer building. Your advice, enthusiasm, support and inspiration are most appreciated.

The moderators who donate their time for the benefit of us all. Lightning quick to respond to questions and assist, a great team.

And, the individuals whose contributions were especially helpful to me.

MadJack: Thanks for allowing me to pick your brain with not only my PM's but also your rock-solid advice on all topics.

Aggie79: Tom, your build thread was invaluable and your friendship and encouragement will never be forgottten.

2Bits: Thomas, your build thread was one of the first I studied and it was a pleasure to see LT at Beaver's Bend. My first peek inside one.

Starleen: Scott, thanks for the PM advice. Looking forward to seeing you at LCG.

Rayvillian: Gary, you answered so many questions from a newbie when I met you at Beaver's Bend. Excellent advice. Thanks for the PM replies, too. See ya in a few weeks.

Planovet: Mark, your build thread and website helped immensely. Thanks for welcoming me to the community at Beaver's Bend. Dewey will be with me at LCG, I think you'll get a kick when you see my tomcat pal.

Sharon: You were always there supporting me with your kind words of encouragement, thru thick and thin. You don't know how much that meant. I hope our paths will cross at a campground.

Grizz: Your build thread was an inspiration and your friendship I treasure. Many thanks to my overseas friend.

JKidd: Jody, thanks for all your supportive comments on my build thread and your advice in emails. Let's plan to meet at Powell or somewhere in the Utah outback with our campers. Don't laugh at mine, ok?

Well.. this is sounding like an Academy Awards speech. I'd best get off the stage now... :LOL:


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Well Gary, it looks great! I am glad i could have been some help! Looking forward to seeing you and the Diner in person!!! :p
 

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