Keep It Simple 6X12

Thanks! That's the plan! Next trip we will bring our portable A/C unit and see how it does. I just painted the roof 2 coats with white mobile home roof paint. Even with the sun shining directly on top, I can lay my hand on it and it really is not all that hot. Should make a difference inside. It is already cooler as I am working in there. At present, I am preparing to lay down some new flooring. After MUCH deliberation, we decided on sheet vinyl. I ordered it from HD to get the 10 mil stuff. Looks like grey weathered wood. I wanted to run it long ways, but then I would have a lot of waste. So...I will run it with the "planks" going side-to-side. Should have very little waste as I plan to use the cut off piece under "my" bed to line the bottom of the rear storage area. That is where the spare tire and the milk crates with electric cords and plumbing stuff like hoses etc. reside. Should be easy to clean. I will lay it out then staple all around the edges using 1/2" SS staples. Then, I will finish with some nice trim as a "mini baseboard". Will snap a pic after and try to post it. So many cool ideas on this site, but have to "reign it in" a bit due to budget and weight. My SUV is already saying "Hey...what's going on back there?" :x LOL! Later...Happy Trails To You All!!
 
Nice. I like the Floorplan. [emoji106][emoji41]
What awning is that ?

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The awning is a Trim-Line bag style awning from Dometic. It is the 10' version. Got it on e-bay for 299. (Amazon had the same awning at that price as well). They were closing out this color (Brown Fade). They seem to have sold out this size, but they do have others like 8' for that price. The seller is Hanna Trailer supply. It was new old stock. It was in good shape, still in original box. Shipped free and they got it to me in less than a week! All the legs are now folded inside a boxed aluminum frame. They fold out and you can attach the bottom of the legs either in sockets mounted to the trailer, or simply place them on the ground and pound in a stake in a loop to hold it from flying up. If it is real windy, we also stake it with additional ropes. I need to drill additional holes in the support legs so that the ends can come down even more in a hard rain situation. We had a torrential downpour the first time we used it and I had to push up on the canopy to move the water off. So glad it did not damage the fabric! It is a medium/heavy vinyl.
 
Here are a couple of pics of the sheet vinyl flooring installed. I made a template (of sorts) from cardboard and laid it out on the vinyl first, with 2 inches over on all edges. That did minimize waste. The portion that I cut off under the longer bed on the side I used under the rear storage area. The scrap pieces were used under the long bed. Very little waste by using it this way. I wanted to have the pattern go the long way but I would have had to order more than I needed. This is HD 10 mil material, sells for 1.33 per square foot (about 12 bucks per yard). Again, feels nice underfoot and seems like it will hold up well. All of our previous pop up campers had vinyl flooring and it held up well with minimal care. I did end up stapling along the outer edges. Then, I used some pre-finished grey trim they were closing out at Lowes for 4 buck for a 8 foot piece. It is cove molding, but it looks fine and covers the edges and the staples. Will test it out next week on a camping trip. Happy Trails to all!
 

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Hello Fellow Cargo Campers,
Just returned from a 3 day camping trip to a nearby location. It was really HOT!! We were by a river with locks letting boats up and down so we did get some nice breezes under a large tree nearby. This will be our last trip until it cools down in the Fall. I wanted to mention a few things about our use of the 10K BTU portable SINGLE HOSE A/C that we used to keep cool. We bought this as an emergency back-up unit in case our home unit went out. It will cool a bedroom until the repair person can get to us, we figured. We did NOT know the difference between a single hose and a dual hose unit. We do now LOL. I put it in the trailer on our last trip about a month ago, sending the hot exhaust air down the vent in the floor. I turned it on and this shrieking noise came in through the roof vent and I could barely open the door! I had to open a window several inches to get enough air in to stop the negative pressure. I was pulling in 85 degree air in through the window, then asking the unit to cool it down! This trip however, I "converted" the single hose to a dual hose by attaching a Tupperware type storage container to the back with a metal A/C duct all taped over the air inlet. Then I attached a length of hose to it and sent it down the hatch in the floor to draw in fresh air from under the trailer. I them had to send the hot air out through the window. The hose was longer and got really hot so I wrapped it in a Mylar type of material and that helped a bit. For the next time we use the A/C, I am adding an additional hatch in the floor (a 6"boat hatch with a screw on lid), and I will send the heat out that original one on the back side, and draw fresh air in through the opposite side. I might need to deflect it with a 90 degree duct to avoid pulling in the hot air, I will see how it does. So...word to the wise here, if you plan on using this type of A/C this summer, try to find a dual hose unit. The one I have is new and I got it second hand for about half price, so I am not complaining. I even thought of maybe putting in a RV hatch in one of the back doors and using a 5KBTU window unit, but that is a lot of work and more $$. So, for now we will keep using this setup and try to improve the efficiency. One thing on the air inlet...I did end up taping over a small inlet vent in the lower side of the A/C unit. I noticed that it wasn't cycling on and off like it should, so I did end up undoing just that one (about 6"X7"). It seemed to work better and kept the trailer about 78 degrees in direct sun with 92 degree outside temp. It got pretty chilly inside at night as the outside air dropped to 75 degrees. I also directed the top water drip hose into a container and it filled up almost half full!! About 1.5 gallon! I am going to put a small floor drain plug in to direct the water outside. Our next trip won't be until October and by then it will hopefully have cooled down some here in SW Fla. I will say that painting the roof white helped a lot since the sun beats down and heats up the interior. But, the white paint and the 1" foam keeps the ceiling almost cool to the touch. Happy Cool Camping!!
 
Thanks! I'll post the results when I get it done. I put a PVC fitting (with a screw-on cap) in a hole I drilled and I will run the drain tube out that down to the ground. I also will wrap an insulating collar around the exhaust vent pipe. It gets REALLY hot!! By October it may not need to work as hard here, so we're ready for some COOL camping LOL!! For heat (when needed) our little ceramic heater does an excellent job and runs real quiet.
 
Just wanted to say that the addition of the second hose outlet for the fresh air intake made a big difference in the efficiency of the AC unit. The drip plug in the floor worked very well too. No more emptying a water jug full of condensation! The floor plugs also make good fresh air vents. I made screens to fit them and they allow fresh air in and, since I just installed a Maxxair2 vent cover, I will be able to close the windows while the trailer is parked and still get fresh air inside and it will not get so hot. If you are thinking of using a portable AC to cool your trailer, I would recommend paying a little extra and getting the two hose model. Getting ready to spend a few days at the same spot as last May so I will see the difference it makes. Enjoy!! Will be parking the trailer until next October. Happy Camping!!
 

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Please pardon the giant pic. Still trying to figure out the whole resizing thing. Here is another try from the same spot on the Caloosahatchee River outside LaBelle Florida. Enjoy!
 

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The floor plugs also make good fresh air vents. I made screens to fit them and they allow fresh air in and, since I just installed a Maxxair2 vent cover, I will be able to close the windows while the trailer is parked and still get fresh air inside and it will not get so hot.

Nice Bonus!!! And when it is raining you will still have good air flow. :thumbsup:
 
Speaking of fresh air, I just got in my new windows that will be installed in the back cargo doors. They are 12X18 and should fit in between the door hinge hardware just fine. This will allow a little bit of fresh air in while keeping the doors closed and the mozzies out! Also, we can peek out the back and see if the raccoons are in our screen room/camp kitchen! Will post pics after they are in. I should make little tilt out awnings over the windows so we can leave them open when its raining! Another project for another time LOL.
 
Enjoyed your thread. I too am going for a very simple conversion. Hope to be ready in a week or two.
 
Thanks! Please post some pics so we can check it out. Following the KISS method made the whole conversion go much better for us. Not as simple as tossing in a couple of cots and a cooler, but compared to these very well thought out conversions on here (and other sites), ours is pretty basic.
 
One other quick thing to Mr. Lahey. Years ago we built a small stand-up camper on a new 5X8 Tractor Supply trailer. I thought of that when I saw your frame at the beginning of your teardrop project. It was a super simple build with a mobile home back door unit that was new! old stock. Small crank out windows and a boxy shape. If any one wants to see a pic of our Primitive Project just let me know. It was fun but a bit cramped. Sold it to some folks who towed it up to New York and camped by a gorgeous lake.
 
I know what you mean! But, we are trying to keep it at least reasonable. It is so difficult though since even basic upgrades seem to cost more than we thought they might. However, compared to even an older, smaller camper, we have less in ours and at least it is new-ish.
We just installed the 12X18 back windows. Came out pretty good and lets us peek out back if we need to and allows a bit of cross-ventilation. One more shelf up front in the V section to place items on when camping and that may be it for a while. We'll see LOL. Here's a pic of the little back windows. One thing I realized is that if really necessary I could exit the back doors from inside by reaching out and lifting up the handle. Hope we never need to, but at least it would be possible now.
 

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I Remember, reading your first post and then you just kept going and going lol, it's like a little house. Back Windows looks good and it's always Nice to have another way out, I'm so paranoid because I don't have a window yet; (I keep a sawzall inside for now) my paranoia comes from if somebody were to lock me in. I just received my 12 x 21 window today so I'll be installing it more likely tomorrow. I doubt anybody's going to lock me in, I haven't heard any stories like that, have you?
Best regards to you and yours, remember "keep it simple";) :LOL:
 
Just added a "magnetic" screen door to the CTC. It is a heavy-duty version and the mesh is nice and thick. A friend altered it for us so it fits perfectly. Works really well and the magnets seem very strong. I attached it using the sticky back velcro (supplied) to my PVC inner door trim. Getting ready for a camping trip in 2 weeks to a "buggy" area so we'll see how it does.
 

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