Lightweight TD Refurb after losing hatch...

jonw-TNT

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In 2011 I built a lightweight teardrop based on Mike's Ultralight design - here's the original build journal http://www.tnttt.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=47260

This year (2013) my wife Lyn and I drove out from Massachusetts to the 20th anniversary Dam Gathering in northern California during which a gust of wind from an approaching thunderstorm blew the hatch over the roof of the tear, springing the hurricane hinge. In Arizona on an interstate it blew off completely, miles before I realized it was missing. All this resulted from me not securing the galley props from lifting up due to a strong wind (which people had brought up to me but I thought was not likely to occur :oops: ).

You can see a slide show of the trip and how we dealt with the issue at: http://www.jonweinberg.com/Calif2013/

Here's what it looked like before the trip:

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Here's how we dealt with it on the road:

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and here's some of the damage it caused:

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So after the gathering we boogied on home and over the next several months I repaired the damage and made several other improvements to the teardrop:
  • built a new hatch and replaced the hurricane hinge
  • fabricated a more positive latching mechanism than what I had before
  • replaced the broken counter self-stick tiles
  • replaced the I beam tongue with a lighter, longer box beam version
  • replaced the stationary front stabilizer jack (that repeatedly hit things and got bent) with a swing-up jack
  • mounted the spare tire under the floor between the tongue arms
  • replaced the cheap, wimpy vent+fan with a Fantastic Vent unit
  • painted the gross aluminum with epoxy auto primer and paint to match the metallic grey finish of my CRV

Each of these areas will have a separate post below with my lessons learned and pictures, but here is the finished product:

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I built a new hatch structurally the same as the prior one
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I made it wider and longer so I could trim it to exactly fit. Unfortunately I somehow measured the length wrong and cut the bottom too short. So I trimmed the piece I had cut off and glued it back onto the hatch ply
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And then fiberglassed the bottom side to add stiffness and strength. The glue-ed on piece was sandwiched between the aluminum skin and the fiberglass and worked out fine.
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I brushed the leftover mixed resin on the underside of the hatch side overhang edge instead of using aluminum strips as I had done before. Much easier.

Instead of trying to glue the aluminum skin to the ply surface as I had the last time, I just let it float and be secured by the pop rivets on the edge trim
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I had to remove the old roof side of the hurricane hinge which I had used silicone caulk to seal it with. What a mess to scrape and clean up
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The trick on replacing the hinge was to re-use the existing screw holes on the roof side. Grant Whipp cut me a longer than normal piece of hinge so I could line it up with the existing holes and still have a little overhang on each side after cutting off the excess. This was not an issue on the hatch side since I had to drill a new set of holes in the new hatch.

Here's the new hatch-side hinge being measured after the roof-side piece was attached:
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This time I knew enough NOT to cut it flush with the sides, but left a 3/4in. overhang to divert water when the hatch is open.
 
For the prior latching mechanism I used spring loaded household door latches and they would open up when going down the road. I had to use bungee cords and subsequent other modifications to keep this from happening. Not good.

This time I went with a mechanism more like a garage door or pickup truck bed cover door latch. Rotating the T handle drives rods into a hole in a plate that positively keeps the hatch from opening. I used two turnbuckle adjustable rods used to keep wooden screen doors from racking (I can't remember what they're called). They are strong (steel) and have flattened ends with holes already drilled that I could use for attaching to my rotation handle plate. I cut the flat part off one end to fit with a little extra for adjustment.

Here's a picture of dry fitting and adjusting the whole setup:
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Here's a picture of the T handle bar cut to fit the hatch thickness, with the rotating plate (with a square hole cut to match the handle bar) sandwiched between multiple washers, and held in place by a collar with a set screw:
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Here's how much the latch rods are extended when the handle is in the closed position. Note the metal ferrule inside the hole that the rod is inside of - this is to keep the wood from being rubbed and worn down. You can't see it in this picture, but I also slightly tapered the ends of the rods in case they don't perfectly line up with the hole they are destined to mate with:
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And here is the business end of the mechanism on the inside edge of the wall. An aluminum plate with a hold drilled in it to match the rod diameter. I also drilled a little into the wall so the rod can extend fully into the hole. To get this right I used a piece of masking tape on each side wall into which I forced the rods by temporarily extending them. From the mark in the masking tape I could determine exactly where to drill the hole in each plate so the plate could be positioned right on the edge of the wall.
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I wanted to make sure the hatch could no longer blow upwards, which was the source of all our problems that resulted in losing the prior hatch.

I bought some spring type props from Frank Bear at Vintage Technologies but could not get them to fit in my teardrop due to the way my galley is laid out. The area they needed to be attached to is where all my electrical outlets and fuse panels are (on both sides of the top shelf). Frank was kind enough to take them back and issue me a refund.

What I eventually settled on for a design is a variation of what I had before with a better shelf and using small trunk latches to hold them in place so they can't blow up.

Here's the bottom section being glued and screwed to the inside wall of the galley area:
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And here is the finished mechanism:
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When the hatch is closed the props fold up and are secured to the ceiling using cabinet door clips. This is the same as I had done before.
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BTW, the inside of the hatch is a sheet of coroplast. I was able to cut down and re-use the same sheet we bought in Nevada and used as a temp hatch at the end of our trip out west.
 
The tongue we had was a little short. So short that the bracket for spare tire we had mounted on the side of it got bent due to the back of the car hitting the tire if a turn was too sharp when backing up.

The new tongue was designed to have these attributes:
  • had to exactly fit the holes in the floor used to mount the old tongue
  • long enough to mount a swing-up stabilizer jack on
  • be constructed from lighter and stronger 2x2x1/8 square tubing instead of 3in. I beam steel

I'm also hoping the increased distance behind my CRV might improve the gas mileage when towing (although I'm not holding my breath for this one).

For yucks, here's a picture of the teardrop with the old tongue removed. The frameless, unibody construction allowed this to happen. I resurrected the wheeled 4x8 platform I used when constructing the TD to hold it off the ground while the tongue was off, but still allowed my to roll it in and out of the shelter as needed
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The new tongue being painted (in my HF porta-garage) with two coats of POR15 after being de-greased and the metal etched:
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And bolted back onto the teardrop (minus the trailer wiring which is still lying on the ground in this picture)
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I had won a tongue handle at the Dam Gathering which you can see attached to the side of the coupler in the above picture. It's nice - saves getting my hands greasy when picking up or moving the trailer/tongue. A lot less picking up now that I have a wheel on the front...
 
Because I had used self-stick floor tiles before this was pretty easy. A heat gun and a putty knife made short work of removing the old tiles and I simply stuck in new ones in their place. Easy Peasy...
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Removing the anemic old fan was a mess because I used silicone caulk between the roof and fan apron to both seal and adhere it to the roof. Boy, did it adhere - I needed a crowbar to break the seal, which destroyed the metal fan apron.
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Here's what the roof looked like after the old fan was removed:
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After scraping off as much silicone as I could I used DAP Silicone-Be-Gone to remove the rest. The new unit provides a polystyrene gasket to use between the roof and apron, and i only needed to caulk along the edges and on top of the screws. A much better way to do it.

And here's the newly installed Fantastic Vent/fan from the inside of the teardrop - what a difference!
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I drilled two holes in a strip of 1/8in. thick aluminum bar and squared off the holes to fit the 6in. carriage bolts I bought. Drilled two corresponding holes in the floor and simply mounted the spare tire outside side up on the bottom of the floor between the two tongue arms underneath the trailer. Out of the way, accessible if needed, and adds only a little to the tongue weight (because it is closer to the axle than being mounted near the front of the tongue.

The floor-level view from the front of the TD:
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And a closer look:
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With the spare tire not being on the tongue and now having a longer tongue I hope to be able to carry my EZ-Up or follding bike on the tongue. We'll see. A future project is to build a small wooden shelf that will sit on the tongue to hold such things.
 
I bought single-stage epoxy paint and primer from an auto paint supply store and they mixed it to match the metallic grey color of my CRV. I liked the grey siding Woodbutcher used on his trailer so I went with that.

Not much to show here except the trailer masked and ready:
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I had a cheapie Harbor Frieght HVLP sprayer I planned to use for the primer and bought a better one from HF with an attached pressure guauge that I planned to use for the finish paint. There was only a half hour dry time between the primer and finish coats and I didn't know if I would have time to clean the first spray gun to then use for the paint coats.

The two coats of primer went on fine. Then I mixed up the final paint and loaded up the HVLP gun. Went to adjust the pressure and the gauge broke off in my hand. So I removed the gauge and connected the gun directly to the hose and nothing. No pressure, and the paint would only dribble out the nozzle. I then poured the paint out of this gun and into the first one (that I had cleaned after the primer) and luckily it was still functioning.

However by this time the sun was overhead and the trailer was getting hot. As soon as the spray hit it dried and and what I ended up with is a stippled finish instead of a smooth glossy finish. I actually like it but it's not what it should have looked like.

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So the morals of this story are:
  • Stay away from Harbor Frieght paint guns
  • Don't paint outside when it is sunny or hot
 
I had never really finished wiring the trailer with the old tongue - it was a bunch of twist connectors wrapped in duct tape that had melted in the sun, and was opening up and was very gooey. Yuch.

So I peeled off all the tape and cleaned off the left-over adhesive on the wires, and diagrammed out all the connections. I then cut all the connections and rewired it all with new connectors inside a plastic electrical box I got at Home Depot. When I was done I use PL construction adhesive on the top of it and glued it to the underside of the tongue, holding it in place with plastic cable ties.
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I had bought a trailer extension from Harbor Freight that I cut off one end and wired it in the box with the plug on the other end to connect to the TV. One of the connections inside the connector was bad and I was not getting any power to one of the signal lights. Another strike against HF. I bought a connector from Autozone and replaced the HF one with it and it now works fine.
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So that's the end of the refurbishment. I hope you found something helpful you can use for your build.
 
Jon,

I'm sorry to hear about losing your hatch. But what a recovery you've made! :applause: :thumbsup: :applause: Thank you for a very detailed and informative description of your re-building process.

Take care,
Tom
 
Wow Jon, have you been busy since the dam or what. Your refurb looks fantastic. A whole new trailer. Randy says Hi! Great job! Hope our friends from mass. Are both doing well. Loved ready your rebuild journal. That tongue is Sooo inproved!
 
Loved the slide show! Very nice pictures and it looked like you had fun, despite the troubles with the hatch. :thumbsup:

Your repairs and upgrades look swell, too! :applause: :applause: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
 
Jon, looks like you did a bang up job of repairing, replacing (the hatch) and modifying what you disliked, IE the fan.

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Makes me happy to see who got the tongue handle I donated, as it didn't fit on my latest build. :D Danny
 
Jon,
Sorry to hear about your mishaps, but it looks like you had a great trip anyway! your perseverance in repairing you trailer has paid off. It looks better than new!! I really like the new skin color. I never really liked the look of raw aluminum with natural wood on Teardrops. The dark color looks much better, at least to my eye.
Your build is closer to mine than probably any other. I am still not very far along, but I am trying to get back at it. One thing really peaks my interest is how well your tongue and axle attachments held up over thousands of miles? I believe your tongue was just bolted to the floor and your axle was also bolted to the floor. I am not sure if your tongue was connected to the the axle at all.
Your tongue/axle design is a radical compared to the norm as is mine, and I am curious about your thoughts on this spartan approach? Did you have any issues at all? What would you do different?
BTW/ your slide show was very professional, and I enjoyed it! I hope to follow your route in the future. :thumbsup:

Larry C
 
Jon, I was sorry to see that you had the hatch mishap, but as I watched your beautiful slide show it made me smile to see how you just went on and had a great trip, hatch or no hatch. That's the spirit!!! And your rebuild is beautiful, I think even better than the original and the original was very nice. You have made a beautiful recovery. I really enjoyed your slide show. That looked like an amazing trip and you are quite the photographer. What kind of camera did you use?
 
Thanks everyone for your kind comments.

Danny: Thanks for contributing the handle - it found a good home.

Larry: The tongue is bolted thru the floor with 2x3in. steel plate washers on the inside to help spread the load. The tongue is not connected to the axle. The 3/4in marine plywood floor is so stiff and strong I didn't think it was necessary and I figured I could always connect them later with some angle steel if needed.

The axle is bolted through the floor and a 2x2 cleat that also connects the floor to the wall, which also spreads out the axle load.

At the beginning of each season I check the nuts on both the tongue and axle for tightness. The first time I could tighten them down a little although they weren't loose. Not so after that.

I've had zero issues and would not hesitate to build this way again for a lightweight tear, but only if I were using marine ply again. As you can see from the picture of the underneath spare tire, after two years use and just back from a 9800 mile trip the bottom is still looking great and doesn't require any attention.

Becky: my camera is a 12.1 megapixel Canon PowerShot digital Elph 100HS. Takes great pictures and is quite small to carry around. I rarely use it on auto preferring to set the white balance myself to (usually) sunny or shade. I mostly only use the flash for fill in outdoors if the sun is behind the subject, preferring to use available light whenever possible. I have an underwater housing for it and take it on scuba diving trips as well. And it shoots great HD video. I think it was less than $200 on Amazon.

Canon makes a bunch of different models in this form factor, some better than others. You need to do your homework to find which ones are better. Check out reviews at sites like http://www.imaging-resource.com/, http://www.steves-digicams.com/, and http://www.dpreview.com/

Hope this helps!
 

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