Security & Camping alone

Dewi":14sze48i said:
I went camping with my ten year old son... used to camp up there when I was a kid and I thought it would be character building... problem was there were delayed trains, a broken down bus and pelleting rain... not to mention the path had eroded away halfway up the hill with a 20ft drop that we had to climb around.

We got up there, wet, in the dark and set up the poorly made tent and I strung up a tarp with some tied together shoe laces... cooked us some beans, got my little lad dry and warm and settled down for the night. Problem was I didn't account for how when you're an adult how you think of things you didn't think of as a kid... barely slept.

Slightest noise I was on guard thinking someone was prowling and at about 4am, with the rain finally beginning to subside I heard a snort and a squeal outside the tent... must have been a badger or something, but it got my mind racing. You see so much on the news these days, it really did my head in thinking about it.

Next day, again raining, we packed up and wandered off the hill... phone call to my wife and about an hour or two later we were in the car being taken home. I want to do it again... the whole pitch the tent and build a campfire, more for my little lad to have a good camping experience, but you know, I bet I'll be just as worried and just as on guard... and I'm not the smallest of chaps.

Cheers, Dewi

Hi Dewi!
Do you have a backyard you could take him for a campout? When I was young(er) my mom and dad would let us camp out in our yard. We lived out in the country on lots of land and my mom's sisters all had lots of land close by so we cousins met in the middle and put up our tent. There was a pole with a light on it that stayed on at night (night watchman) so we camped under it. My dad would come check on us. We thought we were the bravest 12 year olds ever. Those were the best times.
 
:thumbsup: My friend and I camped out under a large shed in her back yard at 11 years old. All alone. She went right to sleep I played in the fire pit we built. We had an awsome (small)fire. Kinda surprised no one got arrested for letting us do that.......

Camping is harder when your own kids are at stake and you are old enough to know the truth about the hearts of people......... :thumbdown: I feel safest when in the company of Teardroppers! :thumbsup:
 
Dewi, your story reminded me of the first time I took my oldest nephews camping. They were just over 8 and 5 years old, respectively, and their dad had taken off about 18 months earlier. They wanted to go camping and discovered that he wouldn't take them any more--so after a couple of day trips to local state parks, we planned together what would be the first of five annual camping trips.

I had a tent that was tall enough to stand up in, but that I could pitch by myself (I camped often at dog shows.) We went to a kind of remote, marginally improved state forest area that is used for horse owners who do cross country trail riding. Good, relative easy hiking, a stream to wade and fish in, and only about a half hour from grandma's house if the kids panicked in the middle of the night. Plus, it's exactly the kind of place that a woman with two little kids and five dogs (yeah, *five* dogs) can camp and no one is going to be bothered.

Beautiful first day, nice hike, fun cooking over a campfire, awesome sunset. Then the wind picked up, and it began to thunder. My younger nephew says, 'Aunt Patty, I don't *like* thunder.' I show them how to put out the campfire, put the older two dogs into their crates in the truck, shepherd the kids to one last trip to the toilet house, and then we pile into sleeping bags in the tent with the three younger dogs. I light the battery-operated tent lantern, and we sing songs and tell stories and play games to relax the younger nephew. Soon I have two sleepy kids, so it's lights out.

They are out like lights, but I'm sleeping lightly in the worsening thunderstorm. About two-thirds of the way through the night, my older nephew wakes up and says, 'Aunt Patty, it's really wet over here.' I know that the tent is watertight, but I get up and check. The rain (it's still pouring) is washing down the very edge of our campsite. So I grab some safety tarps (the kind with reflective coating on one side) and two 30 gallon trash bags out of the truck bed, and wrap both boys' ancient military-issue sleeping bags in the tarp and garbage bag combo to keep the kids as dry as possible. I block off the washout from the edge of the tent, put two of the dogs on down stays next to the kids and the third on a down stay at their feet, and we all cuddle together. At least the lightening and thunder have stopped, and now I just want to get them through the night as dry as possible.

Morning came bright and sunny and warm. We got up and spread their soaked sleeping bags over one side of the picnic table to dry out. I get the kids into dry clothes (always store the backpacks with dry clothes in the truck!) and start a fire (always store the charcoal in the truck, too!) After cocoa, oatmeal, hard-cooked eggs, more cocoa and some bananas, the kids are ready to go exploring, make new friends at the campsite they can see down the hill (at least we were on higher ground; the sites below us are flooded.) We have another wonderful day exploring and hiking and playing in the stream. Toward mid-afternoon, we head back to camp and I ask the boys if they'd like to pack up and head back home, or camp another night. Rain forgotten, they vote to camp another night which is (thank you goddess) bright and starry and DRY! And when the birds start in at daybreak the next morning, my younger nephew wakes me up with a loud 'Aunt Patty, we're CAMPING!'

Dewi--every single summer I took those boys camping, it rained at least one of the three days. Sometimes it rained the entire trip...so we camped in the rain, and fished in the rain, and sometimes went into town for blueberry pancakes or mini-golf--in the rain. The boys remember the rain..but they also remember the camping. Truly, for them it was about the jjourney (rain and all) and not just the destination.

And they still borrow my tent now and then to go camping on their own (btw--my older nephew is now 27 and his younger brother is 23.)
 
I thought about camping in the garden, but I have these memories of being a kid, catching rabbits, building campfires and digging potties... I got muddy, cold and with British summers, usually very soggy, but it was brilliant. I'd take an old blanket, a tarp, a bit of rope, my knife and a few other bits that'd fit into a rucksack... climb the hill and build a bivvy.

Wanted my eldest lad to have that same experience I s'pose... not so much the whole survival thing... just enjoying the outdoors, away from the urban life... nothing like sitting next to a campfire.

Bit he definately didn't enjoy was the walking... it's 6 miles from where the bus drops you off to where we camped... a mile of it is up a very steep hill, and I kind of forgot just how steep it was. I was exhausted once we got to the top.

Strange how you remember things from being a kid that don't seem to work out quite the same as an adult... and it goes to show that as you get older you really do lose your nerve a bit compared to when you were a kid.

Just hoping he likes being in the TD when its built or h'll be sleeping in the Delica :LOL:

Cheers, Dewi
 
Do they have something similar to our Boy Scouts in the UK? It's a great way for the parents to share the responsibility and give you back some of your childhood nerve.
 
It'd have to be a weekend thing or holidays... my eldest doesn't live with me full time. He tried out in cubs a couple of years back, but didn't really feel like he fitted in... it was a shame because he is a talented lad and I think he would have enjoyed earning badges and stuff.

Have a daughter due in June, so that should add something to the mix... be a couple of years off, but there'll be 3 kids with me on the camping trip then... don't s'pose I'll have time to be worried at that point :LOL:

Cheers, Dewi
 
I'm sure it was a freak incident. I just couldn't resist kidding you abou it :R

We do have lots of bears around here. I lived the last 20 years in WV mountains aka bear country and never actually saw one until I moved here. The state parks there have lots of "bear" rules about food and trash and such.

Moved here and have seen TWO live ones and one dead one on the road close to home!! Plus a freakin' bobcat in my YARD on night!

Funny, when I moved here my big fear was alligators and I haven't seen one of those yet!
 
robertaw":3pdn57r1 said:
I'm sure it was a freak incident. I just couldn't resist kidding you abou it :R

We do have lots of bears around here. I lived the last 20 years in WV mountains aka bear country and never actually saw one until I moved here. The state parks there have lots of "bear" rules about food and trash and such.

Moved here and have seen TWO live ones and one dead one on the road close to home!! Plus a freakin' bobcat in my YARD on night!

Funny, when I moved here my big fear was alligators and I haven't seen one of those yet!


Wildlife and Game officers removed a 9' gator from the pond across the street from me about 2 weeks ago. Said she was protecting her nest of eggs.

When they were building our house (21 years ago) a 10' gator decided to chill in our front yard under the oak tree. The contractor drove up and didn't notice it until he was halfway up the sidewalk and heard it hiss. The neighbors just happened to see him when he was high-stepping it back to his truck. :LOL:

Sorry to hear about the dead bear. I don't like them one bit but I don't like to see them hurt either. Bobcats are some mean little buggers. It used to give me chills when I'd hear them sream when I used to hunt. :frightened:

BTW, I'm really enjoying your build blog.
 
CAJUN LADY":2fkbvxfv said:
Wildlife and Game officers removed a 9' gator from the pond across the street from me about 2 weeks ago. Said she was protecting her nest of eggs.



BTW, I'm really enjoying your build blog.

Yikes!! :shock: That is terrifying to me. Even more so than bears. I think it's partially due to that fact that I lived most of my life in the north where we didn't have them.

I'm glad you are enjoying my blog! I love to look at trailer build blogs also. I've gotten lots of good ideas from them and they inspire me whenever I get to wondering what have I gotten myslef into. :D
 
I've camped many times alone with my kids before the days of cell phones and panic buttons and have never had any incidents.

Now, many true crime books and tv shows later, it scares me to think about it. We were tent campers until my youngest kids were in their teens so that makes it double scary!

I never armed myself with anything back in those days. I am, however, an insomniac so I was alert most of the nights keeping an ear on things.

Now I am much more paranoid. I don't have to worry about the kids anymore so I have to start worrying about the grandkids! We have a camping trip planned in October that includes my 6 month old grandson. I would like to put up an electric fence around the site but will probably settle for some bear spray.
 
robertaw":2aqcqxol said:
I've camped many times alone with my kids before the days of cell phones and panic buttons and have never had any incidents.

Now, many true crime books and tv shows later, it scares me to think about it. We were tent campers until my youngest kids were in their teens so that makes it double scary!

I never armed myself with anything back in those days. I am, however, an insomniac so I was alert most of the nights keeping an ear on things.

Now I am much more paranoid. I don't have to worry about the kids anymore so I have to start worrying about the grandkids! We have a camping trip planned in October that includes my 6 month old grandson. I would like to put up an electric fence around the site but will probably settle for some bear spray.

I miss the good ole' days of not being afraid of anything when camping. Now you have to worry about 2 legged psycho's. Pretty sad huh.

Where are you going camping? I would recommend Ft. Clinch if you haven't been there. Except for the bear :frightened:, it is a beautiful park. Lots to do too . . . camping, hiking, visit the Fort, beach, fishing, crabbing -- a very nice campground. And a great bathroom/shower house. One of my favorite parks (except for the bear).
 
CAJUN LADY":3tbp1wzt said:
Where are you going camping? I would recommend Ft. Clinch

We're going to Ft. Clinch :D We made reservations awhile back. We have been there lots of times...we even go on day trips. It's my favorite FL spot so far. I love that it's wooded camping on the river but still at the beach. The best of both worlds!

Then we are going somewhere near Destin in April. I've never been there yet & forget the name of the place. :oops: My daughter made the reservations for us...it's a big family get together.
 
robertaw":30h1p5p8 said:
CAJUN LADY":30h1p5p8 said:
Where are you going camping? I would recommend Ft. Clinch

We're going to Ft. Clinch :D We made reservations awhile back. We have been there lots of times...we even go on day trips. It's my favorite FL spot so far. I love that it's wooded camping on the river but still at the beach. The best of both worlds!

Then we are going somewhere near Destin in April. I've never been there yet & forget the name of the place. :oops: My daughter made the reservations for us...it's a big family get together.

Ah Spring Break in Destin is something to see. A spectator sport for sure. 8) We stayed at Ft. Walton a few miles down the road and not as "student" busy..............Enjoy!
 
Miriam C.":138dze6e said:
Ah Spring Break in Destin is something to see.

OH NO!!! :? :cry:

I don't want to be at a spring break destination! I'm going to have to check into this further...
 
robertaw":zsenbbgw said:
Miriam C.":zsenbbgw said:
Ah Spring Break in Destin is something to see.

OH NO!!! :? :cry:

I don't want to be at a spring break destination! I'm going to have to check into this further...

:LOL: When we went we had no idea and continued on. Took forever to get through the crowds crossing the streets. :LOL: Truly a spectators sport.

Honestly I have no idea when Spring break is but the beaches are fantastic in that area.
 
Yep, spring break in Destin is a site to see. It usually falls around the week of Easter, or should I say week before and week after.
 
I found out Spring Break 2010 is in March! :woohoo: Early March for northern colleges and late March for southern ones.

We're going to St. Andrews State Park and not until April. :phew:
 
CAJUN LADY":g9sg07ux said:
Someone knocked on my camper late, late Saturday night so I turned off the light, looked out the curtains and no one was there. And yes, I was wide awake. There was 3 knocks so I know someone was there. (unless raccoons can knock).
Funny story: About ten years ago (before I met my husband), I was living in a little cabin in the woods, by myself. Well, like a fool, I loved the raccoons, and fed them dog food, every night. They told all of their friends and neighbors to come to my house at sunset, for a dog food feast...there were a bunch of them.

Well, one evening I got busy and didn't get out to feed them. I had a wooden locking door and a screen door that was latched with a hook. I heard someone knocking on my screen door. So, I opened the wooden door and there was a raccoon standing on the bottom ledge of the screen door, with his front paws on the middle ledge, and he was trying to open that screen door (but it was latched).

I laughed myself silly at the thought of a raccoon knocking on my door, telling me that I was way past due, for dinner time.

I eventually quit feeding the little critters, because of reasons that would make another thread. Don't ever feed raccoons! :thumbdown:
 

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