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installment two, NM to TX to CO

Postby mike_c » Fri Aug 02, 2013 10:35 pm

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Thanks to everyone who has responded! I'm sorry I haven't had a chance to reply to you all individually-- we have such short periods of connectivity that I've only been able to get the updated photos loaded so far.

It's Friday night, August 2, and I'm updating this trip log from a Holiday Inn in Denver, CO. Kathy and I have tickets to see a reunion concert by one of her favorite local bands tomorrow night, so here we are in Denver. Kathy lived here for 30+ years, so she's out visiting friends while I add another installment to the trip log.

I think the last installment ended at Hualapai Mountain Park outside Kingman, AZ., a week or so ago. Oops, no-- we were in a hotel room in Farmington NM. We left Kingman and drove across the rest of Arizona, into New Mexico, where we spent the first night in a motel. Our destination the next day was the Carson National Forest in the Sangre de Christo mountains, but things did not go entirely according to plan. We had a lovely drive across New Mexico, however. This is the first unit of the Carson NF that we drove through, and we probably should have stayed there, but it was too early to stop.

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The view was spectacular.

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Unfortunately, we drove past many, many forest service roads that offered excellent camping opportunities. We drove through Taos on the the way, which was a frustrating experience-- Taos is pretty, but not the sort of place I enjoy pulling a trailer. The streets are narrow and very crowded. We bought supplies, and I had to keep circling the grocery store parking lot while Kathy shopped because there were no pull through parking spaces available-- nearly every spot in the lot was occupied and the crowds inside were just as dense.

We were shooting for another unit of the Carson NF, to the east, past Angel Fire. On the map it looked like a vast swath of public land, but when we got there we found it was actually the Philmont Boy Scout ranch. We drove around on the Philmont ranch for a while-- the map showed a public wildlife area in the center of what turned out to be the Philmont, but we hoped we'd find some public camping anyway. No dice, although we had a nice conversation with a cowboy and the horse ranch supervisor. In the end though, we had to backtrack and leave.

We got the teardrop dirty looking for a camp. This is coming out of the Philmont ranch.

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We washed that mud off in Frisco, TX, a couple of days later after it dried to adobe-like hardness-- in fact, now I know why New Mexico adobe was the construction material of choice in Taos. It took a LONG time to pressure wash that stuff off the trailer, and paint came off the fenders and the frame in the process. Next trailer I build might be adobe, LOL, although I'd need a bigger truck to pull it, I suppose.

We were running out of daylight when we ran across a Mom-and-Pop RV "resort." The owner charged $15 per night-- about what we'd been paying in Forest Service camps, but cut the price to $10 because we didn't need the electric hookup. We got hot showers too. No outside cooking though, because of fire restrictions, so we had a cold dinner. We almost had the place to ourselves-- most of the half dozen or so RVs parked there were in storage. In fact, one of the only other people there turned out to be from the last place I lived back east, in central Pennsylvania, and he was a professor at the university just down the road from the college where I taught. We knew a bunch of people in common. How crazy is that? In the middle of rural New Mexico, meeting someone you could have had lunch with 20 years ago and not known it then.

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We had breakfast at The Brown Hotel and Cafe, and I finally got to feed my craving for good red chile gravy. Huevos and red. Yum.

From there we drove straight to Frisco, TX. Didn't take any photos. It was a long day behind the wheel, but Kathy did most of the driving so I could get some work done in the passenger seat. I missed about ten hours of scenery. We were very relieved to get to our hotel in Frisco. That was last Saturday night, I think. Here's the view from the fifth floor.

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Frisco was all about Kathy visiting her grand kids and their family, while I holed up in the hotel room and worked. Fall semester is coming fast. Here we are on Tuesday morning, ready to depart Texas. We went back pretty much the way we came, and I missed the scenery again.

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The trips across Texas and eastern New Mexico were such long drives because there is so little public land there! I've been spoiled by life in the west, where there is more National Forest and BLM land than there is private land, or so it seems. Whenever you get tired, there's either a Forest Service camp or a boonies camp of some sort close by. Not so much back east, where we drove past mile upon mile of fences, for hour after hour. In my mind that's now the defining characteristic of the west-- lots of public land.

Our first night out from Frisco, TX brought us to a small state park campground at Alice Lake in New Mexico Tuesday night.

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We left early Wednesday morning and had breakfast in Trinidad, CO. Bob and Ernie's Cafe makes a mean breakfast burrito smothered in red chile.

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The trailer has performed way better than we'd hoped. It pulls very well, it's stable, and despite our best efforts, we haven't broken anything so far. Kathy and I are really pleased with it. It's comfy to sleep in-- nearly as comfortable as our bed at home-- and the galley set up has worked very well. It takes minutes to level the trailer and set up camp, and packing up in the morning is even faster. Our verdict is that teardrops are the best road trip camping ever. No more unpacking everything from the back of the truck to sleep under the canopy or to pitch a tent and make camp. No more taking it all down and packing it all up again every morning. No more cooking, clean up, and sixteen other things simultaneously piled onto the tailgate.

Everywhere we stop people ask about the trailer, and you can see heads swivel in passing cars. Showing it off to inquiring passersby in parking lots has become routine. Lots of older people have also told us that "we had one like that when I was a kid." It is definitely a conversation starter. Oh and "you built it from a kit?"

Nope. :lol:

We spent Wednesday and Thursday nights at Aspen camp in the Pike National Forest, outside Jefferson, CO, at a bit more than 9,000 ft. It was lovely, and the first place we've been during the trip without severe fire restrictions.

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You can see why they call it Aspen camp.

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We made carne asada tacos for dinner Wednesday night.

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Across from the camp was a pretty stream that basically connected scores of beaver ponds together.

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Believe it or not, this site is only a couple of hours from Denver, so we drove straight to our hotel and arrived early. We'll be here until Sunday morning, then head back through Grand Junction (more family), then across Utah and Nevada on Rt. 50, "the loneliest highway in America." Lots and LOTS of public land in the basin and range country! I have a meeting in Sacramento on August 9-10 so that's our next check in. See you then!

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Re: Plan B's first road trip, in installments....

Postby KCStudly » Sat Aug 03, 2013 11:19 am

Nice pics. Glad you are enjoying your trip. :thumbsup:

Tacos look absolutely yummy! :applause: :applause: :wine:
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Re: Plan B's first road trip, in installments....

Postby mike_c » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:17 pm

KCStudly wrote:Nice pics. Glad you are enjoying your trip. :thumbsup:

Tacos look absolutely yummy! :applause: :applause: :wine:


We had them for lunch the next day, too! :R
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Utah, Nevada, California, OMG....

Postby mike_c » Fri Aug 09, 2013 12:05 am

Hi all. It's Thursday night, August 8 2013. I'm updating this trip journal from a hotel room in Sacramento, CA, where I'll be having a meeting with colleagues for the next couple of days. The teardrop is down in the valet parking lot-- it was either that or unhitch it and leave it in a downtown parking garage. Nope. I think not. I can see it from our window.

Our last update ended just before we arrived in Denver. Kathy had a lot of visiting to do, while I worked up in the hotel room, mostly, so we did unhitch the trailer there so Kathy could drive around town without the trailer in tow. We got into Denver Friday afternoon-- early for check-in, actually, because our last camp in the Rockies was only a few hours from Denver. We unhitched the trailer and just parked in front of it when we-- mostly Kathy-- were at the hotel. That worked fine until Saturday night, when we had tickets to a great reunion show by Carolyn's Mother at Herman's Hideaway. Any Denver-ites reading this?

Anyway, we got back to the hotel room about 1:30 AM, and had a breakfast date with Kathy's foster father, sister, and brother-in-law at 8:00 AM on Sunday. As we pulled into the hotel lot after the show, we saw that, despite there being a whole, mostly empty parking lot to choose from, someone with Texas plates in a King Ranch Edition Ford Expedition had blocked access to the trailer. We went to bed hoping they'd move early in the morning.

They didn't. We went to breakfast without the trailer and had to return to the hotel for it rather than leaving directly after eating, as we'd planned. By 11:00 AM-- checkout time-- there was still no sign of the Texans. We eventually had to push the trailer back out of the parking space by hand, cursing Texans with every grunt.

From Denver, over Loveland pass, we traveled to Utah. We arrived at Canyonlands National Park pretty late on Sunday night-- too late to get into the campground. Moab used to be such a backwater, now it's tourist central in summertime. We tried Dead Horse Point State Park next, but no dice. It was full too. It was BLM land for us on Sunday night.

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This was probably the crappiest camp we made on the whole trip, mainly because it was almost dark when we arrived, choices were limited, there was a thunderstorm coming-- don't let those blue skies in the first picture deceive you-- and we were clandestine camping off road against the rules so we parked in a depression that wasn't visible from the road. Even the BLM seems picky up on the mesa near Island in the Sky. When the thunderstorm hit us, that red dirt turned to red mud that stuck to EVERYTHING.

The thing about taking pictures in Utah slick rock country is that we accumulate a memory card full of pictures of rocks. It's total landscape porn.

Overlooking the Green River:

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The monsoons must be a bit early this year, because we drove through several thunderstorms on our way across Utah. This one caused a flash flood in Black Dragon Canyon. The water started cascading down the canyon while we watched from the rim-- it started out as a trickle but turned into a torrent as the pools filled and overflowed. The second shot below is an early view, while the pools were still filling. The fork to the left is still dry about half way down, where you can see a sandy beach in the stream bed. A few minutes later that was obliterated.

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Flash flood!

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Here's a small natural arch, with the flash flood strengthening below it still.

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We got onto Rt. 50 west at Salina, UT. Driving Rt. 50 across Nevada-- The Loneliest Road in America-- is one of my favorite road trips and we had several days to savor it and explore the basin and range country. This is shortly before crossing the Nevada-Utah border:

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We spent Monday night at Lehman Cave campground in the Great Basin National Park.

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We spent Tuesday night at a lovely spot in the Monitor Valley, just east of Austin, NV although we really took the hard way getting there. We were looking for a hot spring I'd heard about, but my directions took us in via the next basin over and then over the mountain through Toyibe National Forest. Thirty miles of very rough road, mostly in second gear. There was an intriguing-- and utterly empty-- Forest Service campground right at the summit, which I suspect sees no visitors except during hunting season, but we persevered and were rewarded with a long drop down into the adjacent Monitor Valley. Then finally, this:

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The water coming from those pipes is 110 F, but the stock tank isn't insulated, so if you use one in-feed pipe, it cools to about 103 F in the tank. The flow from two pipes raises the temperature a couple more degrees, and all three pipes is a glorious 108 F or 109 F. The valley floor here was verdant and green, with lots of cattle grazing on the lush grass.

I approve. Although it's increasingly obvious that I spent all summer finishing the trailer rather than going to the gym. :shock:

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The bar is open for a happy hour or two of soaking.

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Can you see the coyote in this picture? I can't either, but he was about 30 m from camp, in the brush. We watched him watching us for 20 minutes or so before losing sight of him, although we saw him again in the morning.

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Here he is again:

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My first bath since Sunday morning. Bliss.

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We thought we were on BLM land, but it turns out we were on a small inholding-- the Potts ranch with all those cattle-- and the land owner stopped by in the morning and asked us not to camp there anymore. He was friendly about it though, and he didn't ask us to leave anytime soon. He even asked us to be sure to drain the stock tank before we left so it wouldn't get slimy. No signs, no gates, and it's all public range land or national forest as far as the eye can see, so it's easy to see how we made the mistake. There was plenty of evidence of prior campers, too. A truck load of local folks stopped by Tuesday night to soak and talk, so he's evidently OK with visitors-- it's a LONG way from the paved road-- but doesn't want word to get around that it's alright to camp at his hot spring. I can certainly understand that! It might attract riff-raff like us! :lol:

On the way out of the Monitor Valley we saw wild turkey, several small herds of elk, and a young bald eagle-- still in juvenile plumage-- with a very freshly killed jack rabbit in the middle of the road. The road out was another 30 miles of so of rough travel, although it was way better than the forest service road we drove in on. The BLM makes better roads, it seems. It was crazy to see full grown elk pop up from the sage, which wasn't much more than two or three feet tall, where they'd been resting. The juvenile eagle had nailed the rabbit as it crossed the dirt road, and as we approached Kathy said "Hey, that's a BIG bird." The eagle left his kill as we drove slowly past-- it had just begun to open the skin at the neck-- and wheeled around in a 50 m circle just above the ground, then dropped back on his kill as soon as we passed by. We were no more than a couple of car lengths away. I'm still kicking myself for not stopping for a photo.

We lost a lot of paint from the trailer chassis on that road, from stones kicked up by the truck.

On Wednesday we crossed back into California. Here we are halfway up Monitor Pass on Rt. 89 above the Antelope Valley in the distance.

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We spent Wednesday night at a small Forest Service campground near the Carson River in the Sierras. We had it mostly to ourselves-- there was only a camp host in another part of the campground altogether and a fifth-wheeler a few sites away from us, whose owner we only saw once, briefly. This one was at about 7000 feet and got pretty chilly at night. The bear boxes were welcome-- we were getting pretty tired of wrestling our big cooler into and out of the Ranger cab every night.

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The incomparable Sierras:

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Today we had breakfast in camp, lunch in Markleeville-- starting and ending point for the Markleeville Death Ride, a bicycle tour that climbs Sierra passes five times in one day-- and dinner at the hotel in Sacramento.

All told, the trip has been about 5500 miles, or will be when we get home-- there's still 300 miles or so to go on Saturday after the meeting ends. The trailer has performed better than our wildest hopes. There are still a few things to finish, some paint to touch-up, and a couple of mistakes to correct, but we dragged it all over the south west, on road and off, and nothing fell off or broke. It didn't leak. A very small amount of dust made it past the galley weather seals, probably at the very top where there is a small gap behind the rain diverters, but none at all got into the cabin, even on dusty great basin back roads. It pulls beautifully. It went everywhere that we went, and made making camp on road trips a pleasure instead of a chore. We're really, really pleased. I wish we'd done this ten years ago!

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Re: Plan B's first road trip, in installments....

Postby wincrasher » Fri Aug 09, 2013 7:17 am

Your trip looked amazing. Thank you for posting it and all the pics.

Very inspirational. Can't wait to explore the West myself.
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Re: Plan B's first road trip, in installments....

Postby KCStudly » Fri Aug 09, 2013 8:47 am

Awesome photos from an awesome trip. :applause: :applause: :applause:

Glad you were able to enjoy a soak in that tub, in that beautiful setting before being "run off".

Green with envy. ;)
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Re: Plan B's first road trip, in installments....

Postby mike_c » Fri Aug 09, 2013 10:49 am

KCStudly wrote:Awesome photos from an awesome trip. :applause: :applause: :applause:

Glad you were able to enjoy a soak in that tub, in that beautiful setting before being "run off".

Green with envy. ;)


Yeah, it's been a great trip.

The rancher was actually quite nice about it-- he evidently allows folks to use the spring freely, just doesn't want the site trashed and has had bad experiences with campers before. Who hasn't pulled into a camp site only to find someone else's trash left behind, or the results of little Johny's experimentation with a camp hatchet all over the surrounding trees, AND a smoldering camp fire to boot? So yeah, I totally understand. It's a drag though-- I was SO looking forward to going back there the next time I drive across Rt. 50. It's utterly worth the hour's drive on bad roads to spend the night there. An hour each way just for a soak though? Maybe. There's another hot spring much closer to the paved highway, not nearly so nice but not too shabby either-- and it's on public land so camping is not an issue, just not so pleasant.

Oh well.
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Postby PKCSPT » Sat Aug 10, 2013 2:36 am

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Postby CampsALot » Sat Aug 10, 2013 6:34 am

That looks like a wonderful trip. Thanks for posting.
We're on he East coast of Canada, the only place to camp is at a 'campground'.
Newfoundland being the exception, there is a lot of public land where you can just pull in and camp.
A trip out West is on my to do list.

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Re: Plan B's first road trip, in installments....

Postby bc toys » Sat Aug 10, 2013 7:34 am

That looks like you had a great time :thumbsup: hope some day me and wife can take trip like that :thinking: but would like to spend a few days at some of those stops, great memories :pictures: :pictures: you have.
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Postby Zipline65 » Sat Aug 10, 2013 8:31 am

I really enjoyed your story. It encourages me to keep on with our decision making and planning. I look forward to the days when we can take a 3 week pleasure trip and see parts of the country that we haven't visited yet. I was thinking that we wouldn't need much in the way of cooking equipment as we plan on a small microwave and coffee maker. But I can see that with fire restrictions and non-electric sites we will want a camp stove and cooking equipment.
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Re: Plan B's first road trip, in installments....

Postby Vedette » Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:41 am

Thanks Mike for shareing your trip photos.
That was my plan too on out trip that took us a month (July 5 to Aug. 5) and overlapped your trip in a 5700 mile loop to the north.
But I am obviously not a computer savy as you and could not get them off of the camera onto the laptop.
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Glad you had as safe and enjoyable trip as we did!
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Re: Plan B's first road trip, in installments....

Postby kookenotes » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:36 am

Mike - What a terrific trip for your teardrop's maiden voyage. Thanks for keeping us updated along the way. I am within about 30 days of finishing mine and you gave me additional incentive to pick up the pace. Glad to hear the TD performed so well and there were no problems. Bill
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Re: Plan B's first road trip, in installments....

Postby celticquetzel » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:40 am

This is EXACTLY why I'm planning a build. Starting ~Feb. Thanks for the inspiration... and push.
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