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Postby Wimperdink » Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:41 pm

Yota Bill wrote:the simple fact is, its a privately owned business, and you are not the owner.


Except in the bylaws it states.... "All campsites are privately-owned property. No trespassing is allowed." which means its more of a HOA ruling as opposed to a owner/business type relationship.

This isn't as simple as telling the campground to K.M.A. Leaving will mean first selling the property. Might have to follow the above comments and get the trailer reinspected and title changed to reflect an RV, or, save your dollars and buy a small RV unfortunately.
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Postby Woodbutcher » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:39 pm

Hey Greg, welcome to the forum. Sorry your first post is of a problem. It sounds like you could get around their registration rules by re registering the trailer. But it also seems like they don't want you there.
This group is more then willing to camp with you. Why not take your trailer on the road and hit some gatherings. You may find that traveling around in a circle of like minded people is more fun then the stuffy big RV trailer owners. There is a gathering next weekend up in Sheboygan Wi. called Cooler By the Lake. Then June 10th there is another gathering at Rock Cut State park in Rockford. We would sure like to extend an invite to you. The info is on the board or PM me .

By the way I live in Bartlett, so we are real close neighbors!
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Postby Jane T. » Sun Apr 24, 2011 5:10 pm

I don't have a Teardrop but we do have a 13 ft. 1965 Scotty.
I came across a campground that wouldn't take campers below a certain year (I can't remember exactly, but it seems 1985 rings a bell)
I don't get it since anywhere you go, people are so interested in it, want to see it, ask questions about it, love it.
The campground people are stupid!
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Postby 48Rob » Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:31 pm

Hi Greg,

Welcome to the forum.

Sorry to hear you are having trouble.


I run several "restricted" communities and would like to offer some insight.

When people buy property in a covenant community, they agree, upfront, in writing that they understand, and agree to follow all the rules set forth.

Most people seek out these types of communities because they want there to be "controls" in place to prevent their investment from going down the drain if a neighbor moves in who does not keep their home/property, etc, in a like manner.

There are some however, who don't bother to read the rules, but say okay, and move in.
These are the people (along with those who have no clue what a restricted community is) that cry "foul" when they are told they cannot do this, or that.

The claims of the "community" or "campground", etc. being stupid, unfair, wrong, etc, are simply unfounded and incorrect.

Anyone who owns property or a home in one of these communities has read the rules/conditions, and agreed to them.

If someone doesn't like the rules, no problem, don't buy there.
But if you do buy there, don't complain if you break the rules you agreed to follow, period.


I've taken a few minutes to read through the covenants of your community.
They are extremely detailed!

http://www.woodhavenassociation.com/pro ... ations.pdf

Here are a few relevant sections;

Recreational Vehicle (RV)- A vehicular type unit manufactured and initially
designed as temporary living quarters for recreational camping or travel use,
which either has its own motive power or is mounted on or drawn by another
vehicle.


Section 11. Park Trailers
A Park Trailer shall be permitted to enter and be placed upon a
campsite provided that such Park Trailer is certified to be in
compliance with ANSI A119.5, covered on all four sides with
exterior siding material of the same type and forming a congruous
design theme, and is complete and capable of immediate occupancy
as it leaves the manufacturer except for bay windows intended for
installation upon delivery. In addition to these requirements, a Park
Trailer must meet the following criteria:
A. Built on a single chassis mounted on wheels.
B. Primarily designed as temporary living quarters for seasonal or
destination camping that may be connected to utilities necessary
for installed fixtures and appliances.
C. Having a gross trailer area, including maximum horizontal
projection, not exceeding four hundred (400) square feet in the
set up mode. Measurements are to include siding, trim, corner
moldings, bay windows, porch or deck built on the trailer frame,
and all other projections except trailer hitch, overhangs and/or
eaves (up to 10 inches).


This one really spells it out clearly;

Section 10. Interpretation
The provisions of this Code are to be construed at a liberal, minimum
level of requirement necessary to insure the health, safety, and
general welfare of the owners and the sustained economic value of
campsites.
Planned use and full enjoyment of the property is not
intended to be infringed upon.



What it all boils down to is this community is comprised of RV. Owners who want to live in a place where they are surrounded by similar RV's.
They are willing to live with these rules/restrictions/covenants in order to see that their investment is not ruined by someone buying a property and erecting a tarpaper shack.
I realize your camper is not a tarpaper shack, but it seems it does not conform to the standard definition of a modern RV as set forth by this community.

It is what it is.
If they don't want you/your trailer, they can and will force the issue.
Perhaps selling the land would be the option that would allow you to be able to afford to travel around the state, or states, to camp with people like us who enjoy something different from the standard RV options...

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