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Postby southpennrailroad » Sun Dec 26, 2010 2:42 pm

Ratkity wrote:Yay for getting the furnance installed! I'm glad you didn't fall asleep when the vent wasn't open. This should be much safer.

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Read the beginning of the subject and you will see that was the reason. I did forget to open the vent. That is the reason the blue flame shut off.

No the furnace is not installed yet. I have to get piping and hook up the power and thermostat yet. That I will do tomorrow.
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Postby Ratkity » Sun Dec 26, 2010 3:09 pm

Ooops, not totally installed yet. It will be soon!!! Yay!

I've been following your full-time staying in your camper and am very impressed by your innovations and spirit.

Keep up the great work. I'm interested to know how much propane the furnance uses vs the blue flame.

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Postby southpennrailroad » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:26 pm

Ratkity wrote:Ooops, not totally installed yet. It will be soon!!! Yay!

I've been following your full-time staying in your camper and am very impressed by your innovations and spirit.

Keep up the great work. I'm interested to know how much propane the furnance uses vs the blue flame.

Hugs,
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Yeah!

Got it done. I'm at the library as I gave my son my laptop to get something that wasn't working fixed. He will return it tonight. As for the furnace. DONE!

I was a little confused even after reading the directions as to how to wire it up but figured that out. I sat there thinking out when I connected the red wire to Plus and black to Negative but the white wire I automatically assumed it went to the thermostat (since it had it written on the wire.) but where was the missing red wire for the thermostat to go. Well it was to go with the red hot( Positive). I thought as I was freezing sitting in the trailer waiting for the heater to kick on. I thought I could not go back to re installing the blue flame as I used a few connectors for the new furnace was stuck. I even thought I shorted out he chip board. Once I hooked up the red wire from the thermostat to the red Plus wires did I get it to work. I only fond it by reading the schematics. You know unless I am stupid, those directions could be a little more easier to make. It's confusing when you have a black wire a red wire and a white wire and then you goto the thermostat and see where your suppose to put a white wire and a red wire but nothing was said that the red was to connected to the red hot (positive) for juice. Well when I get my laptop back I will be on tonight. Otherwise I have a furnace and already shut my roof vent. By the way that really puts out the heat.
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Postby Steve_Cox » Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:43 pm

Russ,

I've been checking this thread often the last few days and must say I am relieved you have safe heat :thumbsup:
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Postby kirkman » Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:57 pm

:applause: :applause: :applause: :thumbsup:
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Postby mikeschn » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:06 pm

Woohoo! You got heat, and safe heat at that.

Well, give us a status report later when you've had some time to enjoy it! :D

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Postby southpennrailroad » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:14 pm

Thanks Guys

I have but one problem. I just don't see how this could be 0 clearance. That box is hot. But I thought I would have to use a vent but now I don't think so. That fan sounds like an airplane pressure cabin. Sounds soothing!
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Postby Miriam C. » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:26 pm

:thumbsup: :applause: Love it! I am so glad you have safe heat :worship: Might have to get one for me so I can boondock more. :twisted:
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Postby southpennrailroad » Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:34 pm

Miriam C. wrote::thumbsup: :applause: Love it! I am so glad you have safe heat :worship: Might have to get one for me so I can boondock more. :twisted:


Well I suppose if I can live in an un insulated trailer at 13 degrees and the inside climb to 70 then a good heater can make any thing a good home in the coldest part of winter. I am ready for -10 I think. And finding propane at 15.50 for a 20 lb tank that's like getting an extra fill up for free a month or like one week free. I bought the thermostat red, white and green wire. (can you say Italian!) and strung it up the wall over the beams and down the other side to the thermostat above my bed. No more getting out of bed in the cold. When I heard that furnace kick on I said to myself, Self! Your going to sleep good tonight.
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Postby pete42 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:08 pm

now that's what we like to hear hope you get your laptop back soon.
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Postby mskobier » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:22 pm

Russ,
Returned from my trip late yesterday. I am finally catching up on the posts. A lot has happened in a few days.

Glad to hear that you got the furnace installed!

Yes, the top of that little heater gets quite hot. I noticed that when I tested mine. I went back to the instructions and read them again. The instructions say that the zero clearance is from the screw heads and front flange on the top. That should give about 1/4 in clearance from the top. The instructions also states that the zero clearance is for a plywood enclosure, and not to install it in a closet where cloth/clothing could come in contact with it. Personally, I would give the top at least 1 inch clearance and configure the enclosure so that the intake air is pulled over the top of the furnace to disipate some of the heat from the top. If you examine the furnace, you will find that the top is also the top of the heat exchanger chamber. The only thing that keeps the radiant heat down is the air flow through the heat exchanger chamber. I plan on giving my furnace plenty of breathing room and possibly putting a piece of thin aluminum sheet on standoffs on the inside of the enclosure as a radiant barrier. probably overkill, but I think it will be a bit safer that way. Maybe you could fabricate a sheet metal enclosure to let the top get warm and use it as a foot warmer since it is next to your bed????

I also noticed it was a little noisier than I had hoped. I think once it is in an enclosure, the enclosure will muffle some of the fan/air noises. Fortunately for my installation, it will be at the opposite end of my CT from where I will be sleeping (approx 14ft away). I also plan on fabricating a 90 degree elbow to direct the hot air from the furnace towards the rear of the CT. With the furnace fully enclosed and the air being deflected 90 degrees, it should quite the unit down considerably. Time will tell.

I look forward to your report tomorrow after a nice comfortable nights sleep.

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Postby S. Heisley » Mon Dec 27, 2010 9:53 pm

SouthPennRR wrote:

When I heard that furnace kick on I said to myself, Self! Your going to sleep good tonight.


Yay, Russ! :applause: :thumbsup: :applause:
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Postby southpennrailroad » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:20 am

I like where I have it. It's in the middle of the room shooting out towards the driver side wall and bouncing back towards the rear are beneath the bed. Even though I have some obstacles in front of the bed area the heat still gets there.

I also like the fact that the floor is warm as well. Don't have to put on slippers either.
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Postby southpennrailroad » Tue Dec 28, 2010 2:32 am

Oh I also figured out why the exhaust can work being inside the outside to inside air vent. The exhaust is so strong that it doesn't have any chance of being sucked back in. I never saw one of these work B4 so I really didn't know. Usually I don't buy something unless I see it in action but out of necessity I realized others have them so it has to work. I also realize that the BTU I bought is good for this as I really don't think any smaller would be good after waking up this morning at 01:50 and it taking 20 min to heat up. A smaller unit would not be right for these conditions. My can goods are in good shape but I would have had to rush to get out of bed and turn the blue flame on just to hurry back in. Oh I have it @ 61-65 as my comfort zone. Kicks on about 3 times an hour and stays on for about twelve min each cycle. Next job. Insulate!

Kick on time 3:11, 3:35, 4:04
Kick off time 3:23, 3:48, 4:17

Time on 12 min, 13 min, 13 min =38 on Average about 30 on 30 off.
Time off 12 min, 16 min,

Going back to sleep BYE!




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Postby Nathan N » Tue Dec 28, 2010 6:09 am

:thumbsup:

Glad you are enjoying the new furnace. Your run times will be different after the insulation. The moving warm air is a wonderful thing. :)

Hope your morning headaches have disappeared.

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