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Postby CARS » Tue Mar 22, 2011 7:57 pm

I'll jump in here with a "devil's advocate" point of view for all of those stock piling supplies.

This thought came to mind when someone mentioned what "city folk" will do when their infer structure collapses. No power means no services. At ALL in a metro area. Some cities have generators to deal with short term power loses, but nothing to last for more than a day or two.

The desperate (and who can blame them?) will venture out. And take what they can get. First the 'burbs, then the country.

So, for all of those stocking supplies for your loved ones, I hope guns and ammo are part of your stock. Sad to say what some will do to live.... (and again, who can blame them?)

On a lighter note, doom and gloom.... 12/2012? Bring it on. I am ready for retirement :lol: The sooner this world collapses, the sooner I can quit working for all these "worldly goods". :lol:
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Postby stumphugger » Tue Mar 22, 2011 8:39 pm

CARS wrote:I'll jump in here with a "devil's advocate" point of view for all of those stock piling supplies.

This thought came to mind when someone mentioned what "city folk" will do when their infer structure collapses. No power means no services. At ALL in a metro area. Some cities have generators to deal with short term power loses, but nothing to last for more than a day or two.

The desperate (and who can blame them?) will venture out. And take what they can get. First the 'burbs, then the country.

So, for all of those stocking supplies for your loved ones, I hope guns and ammo are part of your stock. Sad to say what some will do to live.... (and again, who can blame them?)

On a lighter note, doom and gloom.... 12/2012? Bring it on. I am ready for retirement :lol: The sooner this world collapses, the sooner I can quit working for all these "worldly goods". :lol:


Our county emergency people say the opposite. They say their first priority will be the citified part of the county. Therefore, we rural folk need to have stockpiles as we will be the last to get help.

We are in better shape than most. I'd say 90% of us have wood heat and we do have creeks to dip from in the few dry months and then could catch the rainfall during most of the year.

Most of us have weapons, but we don't make a big show of it. It is good to keep that part secret. A lot of us know how to grow food. We have a lot of skills around here. I have a treadle sewing machine that works.

We also have a lot of folks with woods sense. Good foragers and hunters. I think we'd probably come together more as a community. We have already done so during the floods.

In a small community, you already know who the bad people are.

Here's an article about some Seattle folks.

http://crosscut.com/2011/03/16/seattle/ ... -Big-One-/
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Postby CARS » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:01 pm

I'm "rural". Heck, even in town where my body shop is, is "rural". 99% of the population (sign says 317 I think) are farmers. I live in the country on 3 acres, raise chickens, buy my beef and pork from a neighbor, and have a good size garden that we can a bunch of goods from. I would like to think that I can survive. I have hunted, I have trapped, I have fished. I would even do the unthinkable to protect my family and property.

I am just unsure on "the government" in a time of long-term disaster like Japan is going through.

Short term, ya. Us Americans are a resilient bunch! I love what neighbors will do for neighbors in need. When 1/2 the local population starts getting hungry.... that is when I am going to be on my guard.

Of course, since I am a volunteer Fireman, I will be helping with recovery and Becky will have to guard my canned goods! :lol:
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Postby Miriam C. » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:13 pm

:lol: I used to wonder how if I ducked my head under a tiny desk I was going to survive a bombing. And I was sure they wanted me to put a door over a ditch as protection from a Nuke so they didn't have to bury us... :? I have a house or I have no door...Taking someone else door didn't occur to me. I think I was too young to get the message clear! I did know you would die without water and food and if you needed to shelter for a week or two you would be dead anyway.

If I have food I am sharing. Fire arms are for protection and hunting. :thumbsup:
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Postby BrwBier » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:31 pm

I'm planning on going camping. If I'm sittin beside a fire in my lawn chair drinkin a beer. Who cares, at least I went happy. And if the whole world falls apart at least I was there when it happened. How many people in all of history can say that.
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Postby CARS » Tue Mar 22, 2011 9:57 pm

BrwBier wrote:I'm planning on going camping. If I'm sittin beside a fire in my lawn chair drinkin a beer. Who cares, at least I went happy. And if the whole world falls apart at least I was there when it happened. How many people in all of history can say that.
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If you don't mind, I am heading East to hang with you!! Sounds like the best plan so far :lol:
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Postby doitright » Wed Mar 23, 2011 12:37 am

Know your emergency plans for you county and where you live. Home land Security are putting together lots of plans for you and for the best of the whole county. Or so they think. I have a problem with one of there plans. We have over 150 bridges in our county system not counting state and federal bridges. There plan is to bulldozer bridges if they cave in making pounds anyplace they do this. Well if they do this and it is spring my house will be almost flooded. This will kill any garden and cause my septic system to be gone. Now for the better of the masses I will be screwed. I need to move. So please in your plan KNOW WHAT BIG BROTHER IS PLANNING FOR YOU. A good plan and a lots of money spent will not help if for the better of all you get screwed by big brother.
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Postby eamarquardt » Wed Mar 23, 2011 3:07 am

Simply put, what you do depends upon your "terrain and situation". I'm at 800 ft above sea level and 20 miles from the ocean. No tsunami is gonna get me!

The wx here is MILD! I can (and do routinely) live w/o heat or air conditioning year round with no problem at all and am quite comfortable (although Suzy demands I turn on the heat occasionally).

The risks here in Southern California are fires and earthquakes. For some, dumb enough to build where they shouldn't, we also have occasional floods/mudslides. No stockpile of goods is going to be of any use if your house is burned to the ground,completely flattened in an earthquate, or washed away in a flood/tsunami. Plan "a" for a fire is "abandon ship" and "get outta Dodge". Any fire that gets my home will get a lot of others first and the fire departmenst will be overwhelmed. Credit cards and cash in the bank will be all that is required.

Having been through two big earthquakes (1971 and 1994) here, it is my experience that earthquakes are "localized". Just 20 miles away from the epicenter, things have been quite "normal" after the dust settles a bit. If worse comes to worse, I have a "dirt bike" that will go just about anywhere.

I'm not in an area that can flood, so I'm home free on that count.

So, my neighbors have swimming pools with lottsa water, I have a few 5 gallon propane tanks, some camping gear, a couple of small generators, and food in the cupboards. Good enough for me. If worse comes to worse, I'll leave town.

However, if I lived where the "weather can kill you", travel is impossible (roads blocked by snow), no water available, etc, I'd probably have a different plan.

What can we learn from Japan? If you house is leveled, washed away, or burned up, you're SOL and no amount of planning will alleviate your situation or potential suffering. A "cash reserve" in the bank could be your "ticket" to relief as in getting away to family elsewhere or some other accomdations. In a major disaster, it's gonna be tough and you're gonna be in "deep bandini" just like a whole lot of other people. That's just the way it's gonna be in an urban environment. As I recall during Katrina, the roads "outta Dodge" were pretty congested. If you're that worried, move now, or buy a second residence far enough away as to minimize the risk of both being rendered uninhabitable by a single event! Having the resources available and a plan to get away or send your family away as necessary, might be the best alternative.

Why fret and worry.

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Postby stumphugger » Wed Mar 23, 2011 7:26 am

A friend of mine says to remember this, about earthquakes.

The TV only shows the worst part.

Always keep a robe nearby.

Run outside.


That's it. She went through a big one in CA. She did not have a robe handy when it hit.
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Postby eamarquardt » Wed Mar 23, 2011 9:23 am

stumphugger wrote:A friend of mine says to remember this, about earthquakes.

The TV only shows the worst part.

Always keep a robe nearby.

Run outside.


That's it. She went through a big one in CA. She did not have a robe handy when it hit.


In '71 I was shaken to my knees as I was about 5 miles from the epicenter (and I was standing in a door jamb as that's as far as I could get holding onto both sides). When the shaking stopped we all RAN outside in whatever (or not) we were wearing. Modesty, trust me, was not an issue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby doris s. » Wed Mar 23, 2011 8:03 pm

This is the coolest website about space weather. Check it out. Beautiful pictures!

http://spaceweather.com/

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Postby Mukilteo » Sun Mar 27, 2011 9:57 am

The Road is a interisting post apocalyptic scenario.
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Postby 48Rob » Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:08 am

Eric,

The book, and movie are very good, certainly worth absorbing.

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Postby 48Rob » Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:09 am

Waiting for "someday" will leave you on your deathbed wondering why you didn't just rearrange your priorities and enjoy the time you had, instead of waiting for a "better" time to come along...
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