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Re: best way to heat water when 120 is not around!

Postby Treeview » Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:50 pm

celticquetzel wrote:If someone could rig a timer for a Coleman to automatically turn off the stove after a few minutes sounds like that would solve the problem.


The thermostat that started Honeywell was a simple one. A windup alarm clock was used. When the alarm would go off the shaft with the windup key would revolve. A chain was attached to the windup key shaft. As the alarm spring unwound it would wrap up the chain which was attached to the damper on the furnace which would give the firebox more air. This would start the furnace to warming up the house before anyone had to get out of bed and go down to the coal room and stoke the furnace in the morning.

It wouldn't be hard to MacGyver a similar timer to close the valve on your Coleman stove.

An hourglass with water dripping out of it could be Rube Goldberged too.

OK...now when you try and patent this invention remember who gave you the idea 8)

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Re: best way to heat water when 120 is not around!

Postby eamarquardt » Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:37 pm

celticquetzel wrote:If someone could rig a timer for a Coleman to automatically turn off the stove after a few minutes sounds like that would solve the problem. If someone figures out how,let me know. Perfect gift for my mom! (Queen of distraction...) :)


12 volt propane valve = http://www.ebay.com/itm/Methane-Gas-Fue ... 1266477112

self timer switch = http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intermatic-FD31 ... 53ef686c32

another self timer switch = http://www.ebay.com/itm/Woods-59714-Dec ... 46119f6f4e

another self time switch = http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-PARAGON-SPR ... 4d101b2408

To assemble, put hoses on the solenoid valve so you can place it in line from your tank to your appliance. Connect one terminal/wire of the switch to battery/positive, the other to the solenoid, and the second solenoid wire to battery/ground.

Turn the knob to activate the timer and turn on the gas. When the timer runs out the solenoid closes and the gas turns off.

Piece of cake.

Here is a valve that should handle gasoline/Coleman fuel.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-8-Electric-So ... 4609c1458c

If you connected it between the fuel tank and generator on a liquid fueled (white gas/Coleman fuel) stove it would work just the same as I outlined above. You'd have to make some new mounts for the fuel tank but it could be done w/o much trouble.

As my dear sainted departed mother used to say: "Where there is a will, there is a way".

Cheers,

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Re: best way to heat water when 120 is not around!

Postby Bogo » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:37 am

eamarquardt wrote:As my dear sainted departed mother used to say: "Where there is a will, there is a way".

I've taken the attitude. "If somebody else can do it, I can do it." Generally that has been true. There may be a bunch I have to learn and supplies and equipment to get, but that is only a matter of research time, effort, and capital. The real question is to I have the will to to spend the time and effort and allocate the capital? Is my interest greater than the effort and cost?
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Re: best way to heat water when 120 is not around!

Postby Dale M. » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:38 am

Mostly this thread has become a joke.... If one does not know how to create hot water with out burning it, nothing anyone here can say will help...

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Re: best way to heat water when 120 is not around!

Postby Treeview » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:06 am

Dale M. wrote:Mostly this thread has become a joke....
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Most of us like funny jokes though! :? :lol:

I've never burnt water but I have burnt snow when winter camping on the MN/Ontario border. The trick for melting snow is to start with a little water in the bottom of the pot then slowly add snow, which melts, until there is slush. If not, the snow scorches and smells awful. The water tastes scorched too.

This is NOT a joke...

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Re: best way to heat water when 120 is not around!

Postby eamarquardt » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:12 am

Dale M. wrote:Mostly this thread has become a joke.... That is, apparently, your opinion. Yup, Slow is an obstinate PITA at times but he did get others thinking and it seems, to me at least, that at least one person had a genuine question. IE: How to rig a self timer to turn off a stove as it would be a perfect gift for his mother. If one does not know how to create hot water with out burning it, nothing anyone here can say will help... Some people that have met me eyeball to eyeball, worked with and for me, and have seen some of my creations think that I'm somewhere above a dolt. I have, though, burned water and melted at least one Revere Ware copper tea pot (more likely two or more) by forgetting about them with the heat on. Although I've gotten over it and haven't done it in years it appears that others haven't. Sooooooo, I, in spite of Slow's obstinance, enjoyed sharing how you could rig a propane or white gas burner to turn off after a set interval. I hope the fellow that requested the info enjoyed it. If it gets your knickers in a twist to read Slow's posts, I suggest you refrain from reading them.

Cheers,

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Re: best way to heat water when 120 is not around!

Postby Fyddler » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:42 am

+1 what Gus said. Thumper (from Disney's Bambi) said it best... "If you can't say sumpthin nice, don't say nothin at all".

Also +1 on the instant hot water heaters. I don't have any personal experience, but it is definitely on my wish list!
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Re: best way to heat water when 120 is not around!

Postby eamarquardt » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:09 pm

Here is my water heater. Fill with a couple of gallons of water, heat, put lid on, pressurize with a bit of compressed air, and you have a two gallon hot water shower. I'm gonna make a small battery powered air compressor so that I can fill it up with four gallons and get all four gallons out of it.

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It doubles as a dish basin that you can put on a burner and reheat when the water gets cold. I hate doing dishes in cold water.

I can get by w/o a self timer though.

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Re: best way to heat water when 120 is not around!

Postby Ron Dickey » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:18 pm

at the IRG 2012 Dan Hazzard offered this idea using a gas stove. worked well
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he attached it to a sprayer you would use for weeds to push the water through. But he could have put and upper jug and had and control it with a shut off. and the slower the water the hotter.

We used a Colman tankless up to last year when it stopped running put in a new battery but it still would not pump need to order some parts. It ran for about 4 years.

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Re: best way to heat water when 120 is not around!

Postby alaska teardrop » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:27 pm

A 3 quart pot on the propane stove. 1/2 pot for dishes or coffee. 3 qts. boiling plus 6 qts. cold poured into the solar shower bag makes for a fine shower (gotta be quick at -40* though). It's the way I lived in a 'haul your water from the spring' cabin for years. Just like camping year round. :lol:
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Re: best way to heat water when 120 is not around!

Postby alaska teardrop » Thu Aug 22, 2013 4:40 pm

eamarquardt wrote:Here is my water heater. Fill with a couple of gallons of water, heat, put lid on, pressurize with a bit of compressed air, and you have a two gallon hot water shower. I'm gonna make a small battery powered air compressor so that I can fill it up with four gallons and get all four gallons out of it.

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It doubles as a dish basin that you can put on a burner and reheat when the water gets cold. I hate doing dishes in cold water.

I can get by w/o a self timer though.

Cheers,

Gus

    That's a bomber hot water heater you have there, Gus! What's the border agents say when they see that? :lol:
    They'll be looking at you real sideways when you hook up those timer wires. :cigar:
    Come to think of it, haven't heard about your trip to the north?
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Re: best way to heat water when 120 is not around!

Postby rebapuck » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:09 pm

Use a whistling tea kettle. It will let you know when it's ready.
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Re: best way to heat water when 120 is not around!

Postby Treeview » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:23 pm

Now that Alaska has used NSA keywords we're going to be noticed. :? :cry:
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Re: best way to heat water when 120 is not around!

Postby bdosborn » Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:13 pm

You know, you could use an RV water heater. It makes cleaning up the DO real easy with the right attachment.
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Re: best way to heat water when 120 is not around!

Postby PKCSPT » Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:05 am

hmmmm, one reason my hubby doesn't like to camp is due to a health issue he needs to take a hot bath and heating up enough water for a shallow bath can be tricky. There are a few ideas here even I might be able to figure out. He will never enjoy it as much as I do but I know boondocking in the middle of nowhere and no one for a night he would. So simple cheap and easy to use, you all have me thinking now.

Oh and I have "burned" water and snow. Oooops
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