Awnings without poles?

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Awnings without poles?

Postby Woodbutcher » Mon May 04, 2009 8:38 pm

Has anyone made an awning ( for over the doors) that attaches to their tear without the use of poles? It seems that the poles and guide wires are always in the way. So I was thinking of attaching the awning with turn buckles to the top of the tear, through the grommets. Then make a frame, maybe out of conduit that would arch out away from the door to support the front of the awning. I found some handrail fitting for a boat that I could attach up near the top of the tear to hold the conduit frame. Then maybe a bracket coming off the frame to hold the bottom. Any thoughts would help. Since my tear is a woody I have 5/8" solid ash to screw into. Here is a profile of what I am working with.

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Postby Ron Dickey » Mon May 04, 2009 9:10 pm

I tried to make ones out of PVC but a little to weak for weight. used polls.
If I had used steel or such it might have not needed polls. I put 2 U clamps in sides filled with 6" pipes them 90's and ran them 2 1/2 feet out then rand another 90 for end pipe to hole cross peace.

One gue used a steel pipe at the end and rand the support polls to the trailer the weight cept it taught.
there is the umbrilla stand type that bends over and shades areas with out center stick in the way.
http://img.nauticexpo.com/images_ne/pho ... 111465.jpg
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this offers a poll but farther out.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffy_pie/566158988/
the thing I found is do you have room for the polls on board when you travel.
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Postby Woodbutcher » Mon May 04, 2009 9:22 pm

I was thinking of putting the poles under the trailer. I did a search and didn't find anything. Maybe there is a reason for that Huh?
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Postby Miriam C. » Mon May 04, 2009 10:59 pm

t-vicky has one that almost has no poles. You could always put poles over the roof and let them support a short awning.

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Postby kennyrayandersen » Mon May 04, 2009 11:53 pm

the problem with just cantilevering them out from the trailer is that they would have to be quite robust. You can get tent pole that are used in dome tents and make an arch that is similar in shape to the tear. The ends could be stuck in the ground with a strap between them and a couple of lines to some stakes out away from the tear. That would give you a pretty open barrel vault-type structure. Otherwise the one Auntie M posted doesn't have too much in the way of poles.
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Postby len19070 » Tue May 05, 2009 4:19 am

I make an awning that still has poles running to the ground, but no ropes or stakes.

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Its not exactly what your looking for, but its not hard to get used to either.

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Postby bobhenry » Tue May 05, 2009 4:36 am

All my privacy curtain need is a top.

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2 1/2 " schedule 40 pvc runs thru the trailer and inserted in it is schedule 80 2" pcv. It is quite stout and the telescopic feature is very quick to set up.

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Pardon the bad photoshop effort but here is a look at the housing inside from side to side

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A short section of 2 1/2 could be cut and split in 1/2 and a bolt inserted. With a few section of 3/8 or 1/2 pvc cut slightly over length and inserted over this saddle it would make bows to give the roof a rounded look.

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Postby Woodbutcher » Tue May 05, 2009 7:02 am

Those are some good ideas. I guess having some poles would not be to bad. It just seems like the guide wires are such a hazard especially when it gets dark. Plus with so many sites being concrete or asphalt using stakes could be impossible. The picture Miriam posted is what I had first thought of. There are so many creative people on this board. One of the reasons it works so well. Thanks! :applause:
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Postby iplay10us2 » Tue May 05, 2009 8:00 am

I bought some of that florescent nylon survey tape and I tie it in several place on my guy lines so that I can see them and not trip over them.

So far, so good. :lol:
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Postby b.bodemer » Tue May 05, 2009 12:01 pm

Shademaker has different awnings for RVs. They do sell a bracket so your pole can come back to your sidewall. Here's their description:

"Our custom fabricated aluminum brackets that let you mount the Supreme awning legs to back to the camper. These brackets are perfect solution for those times when there is no way to stake the legs in the ground or in cases when the ground is uneven. Our solution also gets the awning legs out of the way. Simply mount brackets on your trailer and drill small hole in bottom of each leg for pin to go through".

I think it can easily be adapted to a side wall for teardrop.

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Postby Woodbutcher » Tue May 05, 2009 12:31 pm

Thanks for the info Barb....those brackets could make it work, I'll start planning.
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Postby Ron Dickey » Wed May 06, 2009 1:29 am

here is one more belongs to the forum

http://tnttt.com/album_ ... c_id=43391

uses the weight of the bar to keep it down. has no side bars and offers pitch in center for air to flow through to keep cool.

I had one up over the weekend in poring rain this last weekend made of PVC mainy improvements needed.
I did have the fabric at the top against the trailer it did not run down the side but over the top keeping the water from running down the wall with a chance of getting in the door.

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Postby Nitetimes » Wed May 06, 2009 7:44 am

iplay10us2 wrote:I bought some of that florescent nylon survey tape and I tie it in several place on my guy lines so that I can see them and not trip over them.

So far, so good. :lol:


Another way is what we used to do at the races. You could get some orange roll bar wrap, it really just foam pipe wrap colored, not expensive and light.
We put it on the door assist cables cause they can be painful when contacted when you're in a hurry! :thumbsup:
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Postby Woodbutcher » Wed May 06, 2009 12:25 pm

Thanks for the help. I should probably clairify my post by saying, not no poles, but without poles to the ground. The cantalevered Idea is what I am leaning toward. You have given me some good ideas, Thanks!
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Postby TENNJIM » Wed May 06, 2009 1:56 pm

I saw a cantilever arrangement that used conduit pipe and pipe holders-four of them mounted on top of the teardrop (a woody). It could be installed on either side or both sides as a canopy or a privacy curtain thing. The picture may be in the recent 16th Dam Gathering photos, Southwest region.
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