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what I ended up with and why.

Postby SteveF » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:03 am

Hi, folks--I haven't posted a bunch here, but I've been lurking and researching trailer options for almost a year, and I thought I'd post my experiences here for your benefit (hopefully) and amusement (probably)! I finally bought a little travel trailer in late December--got a good deal on a 2010 closeout. It's a LOT more trailer than I set out to buy but the price to features ratio was hard to resist.

I started out last summer with a 4 cylinder RAV4 for towing, wanting basically a hardside tent/bed on wheels. Research led me to the teardrop trailer concept and to this forum. I never considered building one as I'm not handy and don't own many (non-bicycle related) tools. Once I saw a couple of teardrops in person, I decided I'd prefer a small standy, something I could stand up and move around in a little bit, put my pants on without having to squirm around, and so on.

For a LONG time I was absolutely fixated on the T@b, but it was too heavy for my Toyota, so I was stymied. Also, Anne, my significant other isn't a camper, but said she'd try it if I bought a trailer with a bathroom. I had mixed feelings honestly--firstly, I didn't know that she'd enjoy camping much anyway, and had been shopping for something mainly for my one use. Also, I was intimidated by the plumbing in more fully-optioned trailers, winterizing, black water, grey water--yikes!

Finally, I decided to trade in the RAV4, and I bought a small used pickup, a 5 cylinder Chevy Colorado. This opened up my options considerably and I started looking for used T@bs and researching other new and used small travel trailers. As I looked at options, I came to prefer designs that allowed for a separate sitting and sleeping area so I wouldn't need to knock down the dinette every night and put it back together every morning.

I eventually got pretty interested in the Forest River R-pod. Conversations with my dad, who owns a travel trailer, and a salesman at the nearest RV place gradually convinced me that I could handle the plumbing maintenance, and it would be nice to give Annie a chance to try this crazy camping stuff if she wants to sometime! The R-pod exterior was very appealing, the shape and the quality of the wall/floor/ceiling construction, but some of the inside fixtures seemed a bit flimsy and the wet bath (shower and toilet in one enclosure) was pretty cramped. I felt that if I had to monkey with the plumbing anyway, I'd like a set up that was a little easier to use. Still, I was pretty ready to pull the trigger on a 2010 R-pod at a dealership nearby. I even took the brochure with me at Christmas to show my dad and see what he thought. Dad liked the looks of the trailer and we took a little tour of his travel trailer. I mentioned that the R-pod had models that had slideouts but I didn't think I'd like the complication. He immediately said that the one thing he wished his had was a slideout! A friend of his had one and he really thought the slider added a lot of room and value.

When I got back home, I went and took another look at the R-pod and decided the wet bath was just too cramped and the close out price still too high for what it was and went back to researching. I came across another Forest River line--two actually that seem to be identical trailers except for the graphics, the Rockwood Mini Lite Etc and Flagstaff Micro Lite XLT. They were very similar in exterior dimensions to the R-pod except they were curved in front and squared off in back rather than curved at both ends which really seemed to open up some room inside, allowing for more space, including room for a dry bath.

It didn't take long for me to find a few Rockwood Minis online in stock at a dealership about an hour from here, so I decided to go check them out in person. They had a 2010 unit with a single slider (model/floorplan 184) that was quite appealing. The interior definitely seemed a notch above the R-pod in quality and the exterior quality seemed comparable. It was a few hundred pounds heavier, though still well within my (and my truck's) means. I hadn't set out to buy a model with a slider but it did add a lot of space, and when I mentioned my hesitation to the sales guy, he pointed out that Rockwood had been building sliders for a long time and also observed that often when folks traded in their old trailers, they did so to get one with one or more slide outs, and said that they wouldn't be trading if they'd had slides in their old trailer.

Then he told me his close out price which was only a couple hundred more than the R-pod! So I bought it.

It's a lot more trailer than I started out looking for, but it's still small enough for me to pull and store and stay in alone very comfortably, yet it's big enough to bring Anne or another guest along. I think I'll enjoy owning this little trailer!

Here's the floorplan I ended up with:


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And here's a demo vid of the model I bought--it's not the exact trailer or the dealership I went to, but it is identical to mine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj_ikQGV__0


So that's my long, sad tale--hope you enjoyed it and sorry to ramble on! I'm still not sure I didn't buy more trailer than I want or need but we'll see...
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Postby SonofT@B » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:38 am

Steve, sounds like you got a nice unit there...congratulations. Jackie and I do have a T@B which we like very much. The feature that we would like most in yours is that the bed is made up all the time.

Otherwise I didn't want to waste space with a small built in shower...we always camp where there are bath facilities. We also have a Coleman porta-potty that uses the bags. We keep it outside during the day and just bring it in in the evenings. The nice thing about the bags is you just zip them up in the morning and put in the trash. That way there is no septic hook up or tank to take somewhere and empty and no chance of spills.

We use an electric hot pot to heat water if we want to hand wash inside the T@B.

Your camper sounds great and I can't wait to see pictures! Thanks for sharing.
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Postby S. Heisley » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:40 am

WOW! :o

That's not a trailer. That's a rolling mini-home!!!

Congratulations on your purchase. I hope you have many years of enjoyment. :applause:

Thanks for sharing this.
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Postby CAJUN LADY » Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:23 pm

Very, very nice Steve! :thumbsup: Can't wait for you to post some pictures of yours and some when you go camping. And you will post pictures for us won't you Steve?!? :snappy:
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Postby SteveF » Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:04 pm

Thanks much, folks--I appreciate the congrats and encouragement. I'm a little nervous that it might be "too much," trailer for me but I hope I'll grow into it. :)

I just hope upkeep doesn't make it more trouble than fun!

I'm still not completely sure I shouldn't have gone with something simpler--a nice T@b or something (that Scotty replica one off that Little Guy has for sale in the classifieds is pretty sweet!) I actually had a chance to buy a nice used T@B that was for sale not too far from my place, but I put it off because I'd decided at that point that I wanted something with a few more options.

I figure on shorter trips to places with good facilities, I can just not bother with the water hookup and waste water tanks right? Just use the bathroom to store stuff in. And I might be glad to have the on board facilities sometimes, when the public bathrooms are crowded or nasty or out of order. Guess we'll see.

I'll post pics when I take 'em--probably not for a while. Part of the deal when I bought it was that the place would store it for me 'til spring so I don't even have it yet!

Anne's already talking about ways to take the cats along--I may wish I'd gotten something bigger. Maybe I'll take along my tent for me to sleep in.

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Postby The Teardrop Nanny » Fri Jan 07, 2011 1:16 am

:) Happy Camping...and as for Anne and the cats...
You should check out Shelly N. ( Nutmeg Joe) for her bright idea of a kitty litter box contraption. She won the Best Idea award for her innovative method of camping with cats and having an adjoining feature on her TD at the IRG 3.0 .

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Postby T3WannaB » Fri Jan 07, 2011 8:39 pm

Steve, I know 2 women from a women's forum I belong to that have that model Rockwood. They absolutely love it and find it very easy to use. Seems to me that your SO will also enjoy it and soon enough will be tagging along often. Congrats on the new TT. Linda
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Postby pete42 » Fri Jan 07, 2011 9:56 pm

Steve having owned a lot of travel trailers there isn't a perfect trailer.

you have to decide what you can live with or without.

your choice looks ok to me it has all the things you might need.

My wants in a trailer are:
light weight easy to pull.
storage space cabinets, closets ect not under some bench
a couch to sit upon sitting at a dinning table is no way to relax.
bed that no one has to craw over the other to get up (I'm old).
some form of toilet built-in or porta-potty needed for those late at night or early morning calls of nature. (again I'm Old).
in all the trailers I have owned and I have owned a lot I have never used the built-in shower,
but then again I never boondock camp I may someday but not my thing.

as far as hooking up the water if you are going to use the toilet you will need water either in holding tank or campground supplied use a white hose for this.
once or twice emptying the holding tanks and you will be a pro and you will ask yourself what was I worried about.
so enjoy and happy camping.
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Postby T@Baker » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:19 am

Looks like a nice trailer! Congrats. You'll probably just love it. One thing I can't deal with, either, is climbing over one another to get out of bed. It looks like you have room at the foot of the bed to get in and out, so that should be a plus.

I'm a T@B owner, too, and love our queen bed, but also love the fact that when I'm camping solo I can sleep wheel to wheel and can have a permanent bed.

My family had a TT and then a MH with bathrooms, and even as a teen I never had problems hooking, unhooking, and dumping. It's really very easy. The thing I didn't like was waiting in line at the dump station at a busy campground, but I think there are more options for dumping elsewhere these days.

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Postby cuyeda » Sat Jan 08, 2011 12:21 am

Congratulations! You have been thru the thought process, and sure you will be happy with your decision. It reminds me of my story... Before all this vintage trailer teardrop stuff, I set out looking for a small 18' camping trailer, and this is what I ended up with as my first trailer. The salespersons sure took care of me alright as soon as I set foot on the sales lot. :lol:

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Loved the slide outs, loved the amenities, hated the gas prices at $3.50/gal at the time. It's a bit larger than what you have, but even with my smaller canned ham, I am still going to build a TD in the future, but that is just me.
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Postby Shadow Catcher » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:49 am

Of all of the major trailer manufacturers in the US I am most impressed with Forest River, one of the best uses of technology, compositec floor and aluminum frame. Keep us posted on your experience with camping in it.
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Postby SteveF » Sat Jan 08, 2011 4:46 pm

Thank you all very much--I really appreciate the support. I hope this trailer isn't too big to be a TTT. I'm waiting for someone to tell me to go find a M(medium)TT forum! (it's just over 18ft long)

I'm thinking about using an inline water filter on my feed hose from the campground supply to the trailer to keep taste and sediment under control. Anyone do this? Recommendations for a filter? Or should I not bother?

I'm feeling pretty good about this now and, since I just found a fellow on Craigslist with space in a pole barn not too far from my place, I'm going to pick up my trailer next weekend so it doesn't have to sit out in the snow all winter! Plus, I can go visit it anytime I want. 8) (I will try to snap a couple of pics, Cajun Lady!)

Joanie, thanks--not sure I want to encourage this idea, though! :lol:

Linda and Shadow Catcher, thanks for the good word. I agree that Forest River seems to be doing about the best quality stuff out there right now. And the most variety in sub-3,000 pound trailers, too.

Pete your list of requirements is nearly identical to mine! I like the shower because I do multiday bike tours where me and around 200 friends camp for 4-6 days, do 60-80 mile rides every day, then line up for a shower in the afternoon when it's hot outside and steamy in the shower stalls. I don't mind waiting my turn but it'll be nice to have the option! (and not be a sweaty mess before I even get dressed)

T@Baker, yeah, I was thinking there must be some way to sleep in the back of the T@B and leave the side seats and table up. That seems like a good way to go when you're camping solo. Thanks for the reassurance regarding the tank dumps.

Cuyeda, those salesguys do like to sell you the most trailer they can, don't they? I wanted the smallest that would do everything I wanted it to and I think I just about nailed it...


Thanks once more for the warm welcome and encouragement. Very much appreciated! :thumbsup:
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Postby roadmaven » Sat Jan 08, 2011 7:21 pm

SteveF wrote:Thank you all very much--I really appreciate the support. I hope this trailer isn't too big to be a TTT. I'm waiting for someone to tell me to go find a M(medium)TT forum! (it's just over 18ft long)


Steve,
I wondered the same thing when we sold our T@B back in the spring and went with the larger Scotty HiLander. By chance, did you inquire about a red T@B last spring?? I remember talking with a Steve from Michigan when we had ours for sale. However, I was assured there's really no rules on how long your trailer can be to be a member. I may push the envelope on those lack of rules when we full time down the road and we show up to a TTT rally in a 38' Class A. :lol:
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Postby pete42 » Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:47 pm

Steve another very form is Trailer Life it has a lot of different subjects from small trailers to truck campers to fifth wheels as well as other subjects.

There are a couple of P-I-T-A's but 99.9% are great people.

give it a try

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Postby TheOtherSean » Sun Jan 09, 2011 12:49 am

roadmaven wrote:I may push the envelope on those lack of rules when we full time down the road and we show up to a TTT rally in a 38' Class A. :lol:


Just tow a teardrop behind it. :lol:
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