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Cold sleeping test part 2

Postby kirkman » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:57 pm

Well last night It got down to -10 again so I was out in my tear trying it once again. This time with a window and the vent cracked open. I did need to turn the heat up more than before because the heat was flying out the roof. In the AM I did not have as much frost as before but there was still frost on the walls just above bed level except for the front wall/roof. That is because it is the only part of my tear that is insulated. Oh and the bed next to the walls never got even remotely warm. So it looks like if you plan on camping in extreme conditions like me you better insulate your Tear! :lol: :thumbsup:
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Postby Ratkity » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:09 pm

I love your cold weather experiments!

Was there a wind chill in that negative number (brrrrr)? Did you have a dog heater as well? Cat heaters are finicky and sometimes move over breathing orifices so best to leave them inside with distractions.

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Postby streetrod23 » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:15 pm

Thanks for the info. I found it very interesting as those temps are very common up here.
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Re: Cold sleeping test part 2

Postby Miriam C. » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:18 pm

kirkman wrote:Well last night It got down to -10 again so I was out in my tear trying it once again. This time with a window and the vent cracked open. I did need to turn the heat up more than before because the heat was flying out the roof. In the AM I did not have as much frost as before but there was still frost on the walls just above bed level except for the front wall/roof. That is because it is the only part of my tear that is insulated. Oh and the bed next to the walls never got even remotely warm. So it looks like if you plan on camping in extreme conditions like me you better insulate your Tear! :lol: :thumbsup:


Or get a bigger heater! I preheat my TD so all the parts are warm before I get ready to sleep.
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Postby Mightydog » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:31 pm

Being old farts, we put our heating pads in bed and crank 'em up a while before we go to bed. That keeps us toasty warm all night--not in those conditions--but during cold nights.

You are the John Glenn of tear drop trailers for boldly testing the limits.
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Postby kirkman » Wed Feb 23, 2011 1:37 pm

Ratkity........ No wind chill factored in I think the wind chill last night was -16. No Dog heater she is way to big to sleep with.

Miriam C........ I did preheat it before. I only had the heater up a little more than 1/4 of the way, that gets the air temp and the one insulated wall up to 70. It warmed almost every thing except for the about 4" of the bed next to the wall. I expect more than half of the bed under me was also frozen so I guess I will need insulation under the bed also.

Mightydog..... My next test will be while in orbit! :lol: :lol:
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Postby Classic Finn » Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:21 am

Here in the Far Nort in the Land of the Reindeer, A Million Saunas and Many thousands of Lakes the weather can get extremely cold and the weather can change very quickly. Last night it was colder than cold and I went to look in the tear and cranked up our little ceramic heater. It was like a Sauna in less than 10 minutes. Hardwood floor with underlay and matress on top with as I mentioned a couple of nice reindeer skins to top it off.

Windows partially open and it was nice inside. I have 50mm foam front to back and between the galley wall. Just Finntastically comfy.

Temp was -15 celcius at the time.

Sidewalls didnt have any sign of frost or condensation during these 2 hours anyway. :lol: Have to take it up to the borders of Sweden, Norway and Finland which is about as far as we can get unless we go up into the arm of Finland.

Next time I need to insulate the sides. I have Mahogany walls with about 5 coats of Marine varnish so IM sure this dont have much of an R Value there :lol: :lol:

Winters are simply enjoyable here. :R :? :? & 6 months of cold, darkness. ;)
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Postby kirkman » Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:48 am

Wow Finn looks like we are cut from the same cloth! I love the cold!! Way to go! I am going to insulate my walls this spring using either 1/4" closed cell foam camping pads or the lock together workout room 1/2" floor. I tested a section of camping mat on one wall last night and it worked great.
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Postby Weirdnerd » Sat Feb 26, 2011 11:09 am

I insulated mine from the start to avoid heat ( In Colorado it can get really hot in summer) with 1.5 inches of solid foam, top, bottom sides and bulkhead between kitchen and sleeping area...It had the beautiful side effect of being warm down to -20 to -30 Celsius ( -10 with windchill of -30).
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Postby kirkman » Sat Feb 26, 2011 12:09 pm

Weirdnerd.... I should have insulated mine also. I didn't think I was going to use it much in the winter. So I didn't see the need, boy was I wrong! :crazy:
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Postby bohemian » Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:22 pm

This is what my little one and myself built this week end.
I almost got up enough nerve to sleep in it.
But I like to sleep warm so I chickened out.
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Postby ERV » Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:01 pm

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I camp in the back yard all the time. My tear is not insulated either. My first time out it was -18 and the walls were very wet and icy. I now use a small box fan, think it is only 8" and very quiet. This has stop almost all the condensation. Keep the bed warm with heating pad, and I have storage under the bed which helps a lot. So far we have not been able to get out camping much this last year, do to work. So it was a big year for the back yard camp ground. Wife thinks I am nuts, but I love it out side when it is snowing. Seems quiet and peaceful.
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Postby kirkman » Sat Feb 26, 2011 10:11 pm

bohemian..... Chicken! :lol: I double dog dare you!

ERV..... Glad to see your wife thinks your nuts also. Mine thinks I am going to die sleeping out there when it's that cold. I agree it is quite and peaceful.
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Postby ERV » Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:00 am

Kirt, I went out last night. Found out that 10" of snow on top helps a lot as far as keeping the tear warm inside. Ha. Kind of hard to get in and keep everything from getting wet though.
Janny is the same way, calls me on the cell wanting to know how I am doing. But still doesn't want to come out, :?
Keep warm, I am on my way to work to move it all around. That keeps me warm too. Ha.
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Postby Classic Finn » Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:16 am

Igloo making and sleeping in is a blast :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: Here in Scandinavia we have a tourist attraction where we have a Hotel and Restaurant built from cut ice and snow it is a nice comfy place to stay at.. Id say its cool. :lol: ;)

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