What defines a TD?

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Re: What defines a TD?

Postby danlott » Wed Oct 17, 2012 4:39 pm

Below is a quote by fellow member Duane King. I think this pretty much sums up what a teardrop is, but everyones opinions will differ.

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Duane King wrote:Many of us here on the forum have very strong ideas when it comes to designing the perfect teardrop trailer. What you invariably see when you look at everybody's suggestions is that they are describing the trailer they already have or are looking forward to. Most rigs are not fully loaded with stuff because that defeats the weight or size limitation that makes a teardrop so appealing. If you want everything that an RV would normally have, you probably want an RV. That being said, here are a few things that I think make a good teardrop trailer:

1. SIZE. The very cutest teardrops are 8' long. No doubt about it. However, I found I could not fit everything I want in a trailer that short. So I went to 10'. This is the biggest I would want. Any larger and the weight goes up and the cute factor goes down dramatically. As to the width, again smaller is cuter. A 4' wide unit is very sweet, but I am not interested in sleeping that confined. My trailer is 5' wide and fits a queen (or almost queen) bed perfectly. So I have found 5' x 10' to be ideal for me.

2. CONSTRUCTION AND SKIN. Teardrops are built from plywood. Usually it is a high grade of plywood with at least one pretty side. Some place this pretty side facing out because they want a wood grained look to the outside of their rig. This can be fabulous if done properly. Most people place the "pretty" side of their plywood to the inside. The plywood is usually stained or varnished to become the inside walls of the trailer and it is a lot of what makes the inside of a tear so cute. Most are like little cabins on the inside. As to the matter of skin, many cover their rigs with aluminum on the outside. This is not all that difficult to do and it gives a classic look to a trailer. However, many use paint over wood as their skin. Some have even used fiberglass or spray on coatings to completely seal the outside of their trailers and avoid any kind of leaking. These are all fine ideas, but aluminum is still a classic look. It is what attracted me to these trailers in the first place.

3. SLEEPING. There are many creative ideas about how to fit more than two people in a teardrop. I enjoy reading about and seeing pictures of these inventive ideas, however none of them are for me. I see a teardrop as a two person sleeping arrangement -- period. It is the perfect empty nest vehicle. But even though I would never have wanted a teardrop with a bunk bed inside, I do think a side tent is the perfect place to put small children. The door to the trailer could be left open so mom and dad and kids are breathing the same air. But kids should sleep outside the trailer. That being said, a teardrop trailer is the perfect "sleep-over" adventure for children. Kids love sharing a teardrop with their friends and can do so when the trailer is parked at home. If you try to put more than two into a teardrop, they are either going to be real crowded, or the trailer will be so large as to lose the aforementioned "cute factor".

4. COOKING. I see the galley as being the number one appeal of a teardrop. Many folks have commented that they have trouble cooking in the confined space at the rear of a tear and they bring along portable tables to expand the counter space and sometimes even remove their stove and cook on the picnic table available at most campsites. But my wife and I have discovered that it is possible to organize a galley so that two can work together comfortably. We do have extra tables, but they attach to the trailer and keep the self-contained "feel" of the galley. I wouldn't want a sink for three reasons. 1. A sink usually requires a water tank and a holding tank for waste water. Both of these add tow weight, take away cargo space and can be difficult to clean out. After a season or two with a tent trailer, we stopped using the sink inside our rig. 2. A sink is usually too small for more than hand washing or vegetable rinsing. 3. A sink takes up too much valuable countertop space. The only reason I can see to have a sink is because they are real cute. But a sink is one cute item that does not justify itself in any other way. We carry 3 gallon water jugs with spigots on them. Gravity feeds out the water on demand and a large lid is removable at the top of the jug so that it can be easily cleaned.

5. MULTI-MEDIA ENTERTAINMENT. I do not enjoy camping next to someone that is playing their stereo. Unless I have exactly the same musical taste, I can't wait for their music to stop. Music would be nice, but I would only use it on the inside of my trailer at a low volume. As to the matter of video, I would like to be able to play movies at night before bed. However, when camping with friends, I know we would never get to bed early enough to watch a movie. We prefer sitting around a campfire swapping stories. But the movie thing would be great during tour camping. If my wife and I were camping in a different place each night while traveling or if the weather was too wet or cold, a video would be nice. I do not have a video system in my trailer. I keep waiting for the price to come low enough that I can justify the investment. It may be that a portable DVD player will be the answer. It won't be as elegant as the tip down video screen I really want, but it will be okay.

6. DESIGN EXTRAS. I wouldn't want a trailer without two access doors to the sleeping cabin. I wouldn't want a trailer without electric trailer brakes. A 10' rig like mine is just a little under the weight where brakes are required by law, but I like not overworking the tow vehicle brakes when driving in mountain conditions. I wouldn't want a trailer without a nice reading light on each side of the bed. I wouldn't want a trailer without a multi-speed fan to move air in or out. I wouldn't want a trailer without a tongue box. I have one I really like, but it was not part of the original design. It should have been. There are plenty of things to stow there.

7. ONE FINAL THING. Dreaming about something is half the fun. For this reason, I would advise people to not rush into building a trailer overnight. The happiest teardrop owners are those that have either built or purchased a trailer that fits their tastes and needs. It takes a while to figure out what those are. Make a sketch. Build a model. Do a full scale cardboard mock-up of whatever you can't visualize in your head. Talk about it until your friends beg you to stop. And then after all that dreaming, buy building materials and go for it. You will love the adventure. Just don't forget to make it "cute". _________________

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Re: What defines a TD?

Postby Gage » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:27 pm

The simple definition.

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In the most general terms, a teardrop trailer is a comfortable, convenient, and compact CAMPING TRAILER! Most often, it has a streamlined "teardrop" shape, especially the original types from the '30s, '40s, and early '50s. There is room for two people to sleep comfortably inside. And there is an area for cooking outside under the rear "hatch" or "galley lid"

A typical teardrop is 4' wide, 4' high, and 8'-10' long. Some are as big as 6-1/2' wide, 5' high, and nearly 12' long. Most have the wheels & tires outside the body covered by fenders, while larger types often have them inside the body.

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To the best of our knowledge (and our research is FAR from complete), teardrop trailers as we know them first appeared in the very early 1930s. From then until about 1975, someone somewhere around the world was producing and marketing these little gems to varying degrees of success. Plans to build you own were also available from several "do-it-yourself" magazines of the time. The teardrops popularity skyrocketed in the years after World War II, partly as a result of the returning GI's wanderlust, and partly due to the improved roads and cars of the day. They were, and are, a convenient and economic way to get out and experience the beautiful and wonderful countries we all live in.

Teardrop trailers are NOT an exclusively American phenomenon! We have seen examples from Canada, England, Australia, and Germany, to name just a few. And we fully expect to uncover models from other countries, as well.



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Re: What defines a TD?

Postby asianflava » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:46 pm

Man that's a lot of text, I didn't even bother reading it.

To put it in simple terms:

It has a galley in the back
You can't stand up in them.
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Re: What defines a TD?

Postby S. Heisley » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:35 pm

asianflava wrote:Man that's a lot of text, I didn't even bother reading it.

To put it in simple terms:

It has a galley in the back
You can't stand up in them.


:thumbsup: You can't stand up in them and you have to cook outside? (I understand that some teardrops don't have a galley. Maybe they aren't teardrops?)
I believe that the very first teardrops were shaped like a tear drop and that is the most true shape. So many designs have been developed since the first teardrops that it becomes much more difficult to define which ones should be included. I think asianflava's definition is pretty good, though, as I've heard people use those two qualifying factors to decide whether a tiny camping trailer can be called a teardrop.
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Re: What defines a TD?

Postby Shadow Catcher » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:04 am

Beware of Labels, they are useful but can limit thinking :thinking: I have seen some truly innovative creative and beautiful "Teardrop" trailers, lets not worry too much about definitions.
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Re: What defines a TD?

Postby asianflava » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:04 am

Yes Sharon, you are right. "Have to cook outside" is more correct, since designs like the Jim Dandy buck the trend. I'm not sure if not having a galley at all counts, but what do I know.
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Re: What defines a TD?

Postby DMcCam » Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:32 am

The 'teardrop' shape defines the idea of these cute little camper trailers and yes, it is a label. Any other shape is a tiny travel trailer or tiny camper trailer but not a teardrop trailer. :D

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Re: What defines a TD?

Postby Gage » Thu Oct 18, 2012 6:45 am

DMcCam wrote:The 'teardrop' shape defines the idea of these cute little camper trailers and yes, it is a label. Any other shape is a tiny travel trailer or tiny camper trailer but not a teardrop trailer. :D
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Re: What defines a TD?

Postby DMcCam » Thu Oct 18, 2012 3:07 pm

Gage wrote:You are so right. :yes: I wanted to say that but held back for fear that an admin would delete my posting because I offended someone. :angel:....... ;)


Hi Gage, It was not my intention to offend anyone, it was simply stating a fact about defining the shape. :) I guess if you made a tiny travel trailer in the shape of an pumpkin that would be carried over in the style name, "I have a pumpkin style or a Jack 'O trailer." :thinking:

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Re: What defines a TD?

Postby Gage » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:32 pm

biziedizie wrote:Speaking of pumpkins, does this classify as a TD :beer:
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No more than this does (the great pumpkin). :lol:

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Re: What defines a TD?

Postby angib » Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:57 am

biziedizie wrote:.....but what's the real definition of a TD?

It's whatever Gage says it is - it's that simple.
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Re: What defines a TD?

Postby Vedette » Tue Oct 23, 2012 11:34 am

I like what Steve said.
If they were all the same....life would be boring.
Don't rain on someone elses parade just because they have a different vision than you do.
It is all about wakeing up in the great outdoors in the level of comfort you have provided for yourself.
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Re: What defines a TD?

Postby S. Heisley » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:34 pm

biziedizie wrote: I guess it comes down to the size, shape and the common features.
Now that I've been here for awhile I think the definitions vary vastly. There's so many cool features that everyone has added to personalize their builds that make everything look homey.
But the question is, is there ever an end to what people add?
I'm still coming up with ideas that I want to do and that's part of the fun of it all :)


Yes, it is ended by the limitations of size and weight. :lol:
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Re: What defines a TD?

Postby Martiangod » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:49 pm

biziedizie wrote:I think in my mind I figured it out.
It's all about happiness, personal preferences and ideas :D
Building something with your own hands on your own time and doing it the way you like with no set plans. As we know our plans change as we build :lol:

Nah, thats a DIY camper, don't mix that up with a true TD, you will upset the purists.
I Built a DIY TTT. I knew that going in, and thats what I ended up with, although it continues to evolve.
TD, aka Teardrop, is truley related to the shape, nothing more, nothing less.
If it is 1000lbs or under, has a teardrop shape, then its a teardrop, if it breaches 1000lbs and has the tear shape, then its a TS...Tear Splash, if it breaches 2500Lbs, and has the tear shape, then its niagra falls.
The rest of us are just DIY camper camper builders, no matter what we dream and build, but thats OK with me.
So to put it mildly, if you have a TV, a stereo, running water, electrics of any kind, solar panels, LED lights, Store bought fenders a store bought mattress or you bought it from a manufacturer...AKA Little Guy, or TAB and tow it with anything built after 1962, you have a DIY TTT or a manfactured TTT, Not a TD
And if your coleman stove burns anything other then White Gas, then its a TTT

Now if you built a 4 x 8 from plans from popular mechanics, april 1961 printing...Your in the club, as long as you didn't add any of the Luxes I listed
And a wagon full of Hay is definatly not a teardrop, ALTHOUGH THE BAYLES COULD BE STACKED TO LOOK LIKE A td FROM A DISTANCE :)
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Re: What defines a TD?

Postby Vedette » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:23 am

I built my Teardrop from a 1959 Vedette following all of the criteria required for a traditional TD except the plywood and the exact shape.
We will pull it with either our 1946 Studebaker PU or our 1961 Studebaker Hawk??
We really hope to be accepted by the Teardrop Community when we show up with "Miss Piggy" in tow.
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