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cabnets ????

Postby the hunter » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:34 am

i found a trailer but has no cabnets were do you guys get your cabnets or do you build your own?
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Postby CarlLaFong » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:07 am

Build 'em yourself
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Postby cheri832 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:16 pm

Hunter,
You might try a Habitat for Humanity Thrift Store if there is one near you. They always carry lots of kitchen and bathroom cabinets, cabinet doors, hardware ...all kinds of building materials.
I'm going super light so I'm going with IKEA plastic tubs sliding out on hardwood "runners".

Try searching on "cabinets" or "galley" .... There are a lot of ideas on how to build or modify something you've found. Good luck. Remember.. We'll want to see pictures of whatever you decide. :pictures:
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Postby CarlLaFong » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:45 pm

The problem with household cabinets is they are too deep for small trailers. I suppose you could cut them down if you're handy.
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Postby deleted » Fri Jul 26, 2013 10:13 pm

I'll begin building my cabinet in a few weeks. Pretty much have the design worked out for the cabinet itself (exterior dimensions and doors) and thanks to Fred I'll have some idea of how to build it. But I still need to figure out the interior layout and countertop surface. Was hoping to use a vintage design Formica but the price is :? It's a $300+ minimum and I'm only going to need 15"x68" maximum so I just can't justify the cost. Now considering using a stainless steel countertop. It will be an interesting process. If you're going to build and splurge and need sources for vintage Formica patterns let me know. I can post the links to the sources I found online.
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Postby S. Heisley » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:05 pm

Stacie, you can order a Formica or Wilsonart cabinet top built to your specifications, ready to be sat upon top of your cabinets. I know Lowes will order it for you; so, Home Depot might, too. Then, there's no waste; and, as long as your measurements are correct, no worry about errors. ...Easy. With the size of your countertop, the additional weight wouldn't be much. ...Just a thought to consider and check into, if you haven't already.
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Postby Miriam C. » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:11 pm

:thumbsup: It's a box. You can always get some used doors if those bother you. :twisted:
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Postby GuitarPhotog » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:14 pm

S. Heisley wrote:Stacie, you can order a Formica or Wilsonart cabinet top built to your specifications, ready to be sat upon top of your cabinets. I know Lowes will order it for you; so, Home Depot might, too. Then, there's no waste; and, as long as your measurements are correct, no worry about errors. ...Easy. With the size of your countertop, the additional weight wouldn't be much. ...Just a thought to consider and check into, if you haven't already.


I don't think they have any of the retro "boomerang" kind of patterns available. I just did some research recently and the best I could do was to buy some remnants at a local cabinet shot, but I had no choice of pattern :(

Lowes counter tops are built of low-quality particle board. The one I have installed for my brewery has begun to delaminate at the bull nose front. Not recommended.

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Postby S. Heisley » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:16 pm

Hunter, you can start by simply putting in a shelf and plastic tubs or baskets and then add cabinet fronts and doors later, if you still want them. It just depends on what you are looking for. Or, build the shelf and cabinet front and get door and drawer fronts from someplace like this:

http://www.barkerdoor.com/

or this:

http://rawdoors.net/
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Postby citylights » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:21 pm

Lowes or Home Depot pre made on the shelf cabinets. The ones made for over the refrigerator are just the right size. I used those for the kitchen in my tear. The cabinets in the bed area I custom made myself.

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Postby S. Heisley » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:41 pm

GuitarPhotog wrote:
S. Heisley wrote:Stacie, you can order a Formica or Wilsonart cabinet top built to your specifications, ready to be sat upon top of your cabinets. I know Lowes will order it for you; so, Home Depot might, too. Then, there's no waste; and, as long as your measurements are correct, no worry about errors. ...Easy. With the size of your countertop, the additional weight wouldn't be much. ...Just a thought to consider and check into, if you haven't already.


I don't think they have any of the retro "boomerang" kind of patterns available. I just did some research recently and the best I could do was to buy some remnants at a local cabinet shot, but I had no choice of pattern :(

Lowes counter tops are built of low-quality particle board. The one I have installed for my brewery has begun to delaminate at the bull nose front. Not recommended.

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Oh, sorry, Chas. I didn't notice that Stacie wanted boomerangs. I thought that she was just looking for something different, like pinks and yellows, etc.
Yes, I believe that most Formica-style countertops are backed with particle board. It isn't meant to get wet on the underside, which is why the edges are finished. However, it has been used for decades and the majority of people don't have trouble with it; or, at least, they didn't used to.
Maybe that's made in China these days, too! :thumbdown: The built-in back splash and the curved front are definite advantages to a pre-build counter-top. The back splash helps contain spills and the curved front doesn't have any angular edge to bump into in a small space.

There are distinct problems with building and laminating your own counter-tops. Like paint, there are certain temperature limitations. Also, the contact cement should not be used near an open flame or in a closed space and there is a learning curve to cutting the Formica and getting it on right. You use dowels to hold the laminate above the surface and carefully pull one stick out at a time and hope it goes on okay. Of course, you cut your laminate a little bit bigger than you need, just in case and router off the excess after you are finished, etc.

There are other types of counter-top substances which Stacie might be able to use...maybe Stylestone or Corian (expensive and heavy) but the laminates offer so many variations and colors that the other types of counters don't.

Oh! What about using tile? Aggie79 (Tom) used that and glued it to his plywood counter instead of using traditional tiling methods. I don't remember what kind of glue he used but he has been very happy with it. If the smaller tiles were used, it would work in a small space very well.

Found it! Here is what Aggie79(Tom) did:

aggie79 wrote:I used glass tile for our galley counter. The counter was 1/2" plwood. I adhered the glass tile to the plywood using PL Premium. Later, I came back and filled the joints with epoxy tile grount. It has held up quite well - no popping of tiles or cracked joints.

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Imagine that in your colors, Stacie....Maybe something on that order would work for you! ...Ideas, ideas, ideas! :?

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Well, Mr. Hunter. You've gotten information on shelves, baskets, plastic tubs, doors, drawer fronts, and counter tops! ...More than you probably bargained for. (Sorry, I got carried away.) The main thing is....Have fun! Do what suits you and makes you happy! Enjoy your trailer and camping!
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Postby S. Heisley » Fri Jul 26, 2013 11:57 pm

It's me again! :lol:

Before I forget, be sure to look here:

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=12968

and here:

http://s134.photobucket.com/albums/q120 ... 20Gallery/

to get more ideas and suggestions for your cabinets and counters and all that.
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Postby deleted » Sat Jul 27, 2013 1:12 am

LOL Sharon you crack me up :lol:

Yeah, I wanted the aqua boomerang. Have not found an affordable source yet. Saw the tiled counters but they seem like they'll be more work to install and keep clean the grout between the tiles. :thinking: Oh, and Home Depot quoted me the $300+ price minimum order. And one of the sites I found online was also around the same.

Here are a few sources for the retro laminates.

Wilsonart Boomerang http://samples.wilsonart.com/c-19-indie-collection.aspx

Boomerang and Cracked Ice Laminates http://heffrons.com/retro/swatches/laminates.html

Lowe's has the grey boomerang at an affordable price. Wish I wanted grey... http://www.lowes.com/pd_239114-76323-6942-58-36X144-000_0__

There are some companies that list Formica in colors other than grey but not sure if their web content is outdated or if they actually have discontinued sheets in stock: http://www.jbros.com/images/pdf/Formica%20Catalog.pdf
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Postby Jim Edgerly » Sat Jul 27, 2013 5:52 am

Build your own. Find some plastic tubs in the size you want, plus your cooler, stove, etc...then build your galley/cabs around what you have vs. finding something that will fit what you chose at random. Everything fits that way. Then make your doors to hide your stuff. Don't forget to make use of slides where they will help you.



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Postby S. Heisley » Sat Jul 27, 2013 6:18 am

Stacie, I think that Lowes gray one for $68 is just the sheet without backing at that price.

If you're up for it, you could look for the laminate that you want and buy just the sheet and try laminating it onto a board or plywood, yourself. Even the most expensive Wilsonart HD laminate sheeting was only around $148, if I remember correctly, for the smallest unbacked sheet. That would save you around $150 on the laminate, plus cost of the board or plywood. You can find smaller pieces of cut plywood, made for counters, etc, and a lot of shops will cut it down to the size that you want at no cost. Then, just glue it down with PL construction glue, instead of contact cement, and maybe add metal trim for the edging. You may need to purchase or borrow a laminate cutting knife, though, as the stuff does not seem to cut well using a box cutter or any other tool. (I can't remember how much I paid for it; but, it wasn't much.) If doing it that way, you can also save a little on weight; as, you can use a piece of 1/2" thick plywood instead of the customary 3/4" thick countertop board usually used.

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