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I need some help with tires!

Postby camper4life » Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:30 pm

I'm ready to weld my axle to my frame this weekend and can't decide what kind of tires to get. My local tire shop said
I should look into getting a "trailer" tire because trailers usually don't have as good of suspension as cars and trucks do.
He said trailer tires have a thicker sidewall to take all the compression from bumps. I would like to know what tire and size
that most of you have. I bought 15" x 6" wheels and will get fenders after I get tires. I will be taking my trailer down some
gravel or dirt roads but mostly pavement. Thanks
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Re: I need some help with tires!

Postby Midget » Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:46 pm

We have 15 x 6 rims on our Midget and I just put a set of 215/75-15 car tires on it. I wouldn't waste your money on trailer tires as these are for larger trailers and our teardrops can get along on regular car tires no problem.

One thing I noticed with the new tires. We did run 215/60-15 tires which were smaller in diameter. On our first outing with the taller tires we found the leveling jacks barely touched the ground at full extension. I had to make up wood blocks in case we run into un-level ground at some time.

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Re: I need some help with tires!

Postby Redneck Teepee » Thu Mar 06, 2014 7:17 pm

Trailer tires really only help with heavy loads and multible axles. Car tires are fine on a single axle lightweight trailer. :D
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Re: I need some help with tires!

Postby Vedette » Thu Mar 06, 2014 9:43 pm

We have 15" x 5" wheels (I had made to my offset specs) on Miss Piggy.
As I wanted white walls to match our Tow vehicles. So, I purchased Wide White Wall Radials that are used for VW's.
165 x 15" American Classics. They are pricey but WORK and LOOK .......GREAT!
These narrow radial tires allow us to tow at any speed without concern.
Just one less thing to worry about while we chris cross the country.
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Re: I need some help with tires!

Postby tony.latham » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:42 pm

I queried the guys that fix tires in the local Les Schwab shop. I told them I didn't want a flat. The first question I had for them was, light truck tires or trailer tires? The two guys looked at each other and agreed that if was them, they'd go with the light truck tires. I had trailer tires on my last (factory built) teardrop. My new tear rides much better on these radials (same torflex axle).

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Re: I need some help with tires!

Postby camper4life » Thu Mar 06, 2014 10:49 pm

Thanks guys, I was thinking of light truck tires also.
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Re: I need some help with tires!

Postby TPMcGinty » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:44 am

I have regular 13 inch car tires on my Teardrop. Haven't had a problem with them and they are 6 years old. As light as a Teardrop is, I don't think that a trailer tire or light truck tire are necessary.
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Re: I need some help with tires!

Postby Shadow Catcher » Tue Mar 11, 2014 6:54 pm

I wanted to ditch the China bombs that were on the tear and could not find ST tires that were not. I was limited by the 14" rims and settled on Micheline Harmony. The key is weight capacity and each of the Harmony has a weight rating of 1600# which is the weight of the trailer so a 100% safety factor plus no speed limit, or not much of one.
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Re: I need some help with tires!

Postby camper4life » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:33 pm

My local tire shop thinks I should go w/Carlyle trailer tires. They said the trailer tire has a special compound that holds up better over time from sitting up in your driveway. I know it shouldn't be this hard deciding over tires. but I like doing it right the first time. They quoted me $227.37 for 225/75/15 mounted, balanced and sales tax. What tire would y'all get?
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Re: I need some help with tires!

Postby Wolffarmer » Sat Mar 15, 2014 7:36 pm

I put car/suv/pickup tires on mine. And now that my new trailer will be running the same wheel as the TV when I put new tires on it I saved the best two for the trailer. They should last another 10,000 miles or more. Or until the TV needs new set. Just call me cheap.

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Re: I need some help with tires!

Postby camper4life » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:55 pm

How do y'all think of the Goodyear Wrangler Radial? I will be going down gravel and dirt roads on occasions. I also like the look of an aggressive tire. Thanks for all the help.
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Re: I need some help with tires!

Postby Wolffarmer » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:53 pm

On a trailer you don't need aggressive tread. I would go with at least 6 ply. 8 if your trailer is heavy.
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Re: I need some help with tires!

Postby MtnDon » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:12 pm

A tire with an aggressive tread will reduce fuel mileage, same as a tire wider than necessary will reduce mileage.

Personally the only reason I would want an aggressive tread tire on any trailer would be to make all wheels and tires on the TV and trailer the same size and type to make all/any spares fit anywhere. That is not on my priority list for a few reasons.


But to each his/her own. Just be aware of what trade offs may be involved.


Larger tires on a motor vehicle can affect braking; because of the greater rotating mass it requires more "brake" to slow down. Not sure how/if that affects a trailer without brakes.
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Re: I need some help with tires!

Postby Jim Edgerly » Sat Mar 29, 2014 11:51 am

I'll give my opinion once, but will not follow up on any future questions because I have got in trouble in here before for being too opinionated in regards to tires.

They make Special Trailer tires for a reason, to go on trailers! Trailer tires are designed for trailers that do not have such fine tuned suspension as cars and trucks do. Trailer tires are designed to be pulled and track properly behind a vehicle, where as car/truck tires are designed to be on the pulling vehicle. The sidewalls are stiffer so that they won't squirm behind the car at high speeds, and trailers will track true as they should. They are rated at higher pressure, normally 50psi. Since next to nails a trailer tire's worst enemy is heat, the manufacturer/experts say to keep them inflated to maximum pressure. It may make for a slightly bumpier ride on rougher roads, but to keep the heat factor down it is worth it.

Some people will say to run less air for a smoother ride, and some will say trailer tires fail more often than trailer tires. It would not surprise me one bit if trailer tires fail more frequently because people run less air for a smoother ride, but get dangerous heat build up and blow outs because of it. The lower pressure makes for more sidewall flex which defeats the purpose of buying a special trailer tire to begin with...and causes dangerous heat build up, which has been said is number one cause of tire failure. Also, operation of a trailer tire that is 30 percent under-inflated (50psi down to 35psi) can reduce tire lifespan by approximately 55% (per Carlisle tire).

I have only pulled 3 trailers in my life. Two of them(boat and my camper) had trailer tires on them and they tracked so nice I had to keep checking the mirror to make sure they were still there. The third trailer (boat) had car tires and I felt I was taking my life in my hands every time I took it out at higher speeds. At highway speeds I had more than one occasion where the trailer started swinging from one side to the other, and once where I was on only one trailer wheel at a time before I got the sway under control, and the tires replaced with special trailer tires, which solved the problem.

I don't know who you have for an insurer, or what you have for car/trailer insurance. But should I ever get in an accident because of a tire failure the insurance company will NOT be able to deny my claim because I was running the wrong tires on my trailer, or they were not at the recommended tire pressure! Last thing I need is to be sued in court because I "caused" the accident by irresponsibly using the wrong tires or wrong pressure. People are too sue happy in our society, and I have accumulated far too much in my lifetime to lose it all now in retirement.

I am throwing new tires on my camper this spring because the old ones are 4 years old. They only have around 2000 miles on them, but special trailer tires have a 3-5 year life span, and are not made to wear out. I bought Goodyear Marathon Special Trailer radial tires this time around, ST205/75 R14 on line for $91 apiece delivered.

As I said, my opinions. I will not respond to any comments/questions and go down a rat hole (again). There are people from both camps in here, and we are pretty adamant about our opinions. My opinions will not change no matter what anybody in here throws up against these opinions, therefore no responses from me will be forth coming.
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Re: I need some help with tires!

Postby MtnDon » Sat Mar 29, 2014 5:42 pm

Jim Edgerly wrote:only have around 2000 miles on them, but special trailer tires have a 3-5 year life span, and are not made to wear out.


All rubber tires have a finite, not just Special Trailer tires. The time length is debated by some, varying from 5 or 6 to 10 years. I don't believe in pushing my luck too far so draw the line at 5 years on a vehicle or trailer tire. I'll run my wheelbarrow tire the tire fails.


I was not going to pursue this topic any further but Jim's post prompted me to do so as I agree with his stated opinions.

IMO, he makes a good point about why trailer tires exist. At one time my old faithful utility trailer had motor vehicle tires on it. I noticed a pronounced increase in trailer sway after the change from ST to P. With a heavy, but within load capacity, load at speed on the highway there was always some side to side motion. With lesser loads that was not sp apparent.

As I mentioned previously, and as Jim mentioned Special Trailer (ST) tires are made with stiffer sidewalls on purpose. I know that P and LT tires can be run with lower pressures than what is on the sidewalls. That is the normal running condition on my trucks and cars. They are made to operate that way. However, it seems to me that taking a tire designed with stiff sidewalls and running it at lower pressure is a recipe for potential tire failure from heat build up. I'm sure the ST's will ride softer but much hotter. It is dangerous to borrow an idea that is countenanced for one type of technology and transfer it to another similar but different one.

Anyhow that's all I have to say.
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