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Advantages or disadvantages of the campinn 560 design??

Postby IamJerryP » Thu Oct 09, 2014 1:21 am

Really like the looks of the camp inn 560 design, but wonder what are the advantages, or disadvantages of the design compared to the regular tear drop design.
Thanks for any help,
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Re: Advantages or disadvantages of the campinn 560 design??

Postby Kharn » Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:53 am

One problem is the cramped galley, it doesn't have the full-height hatch so you have to move everything off the countertop to dig through the vertical storage compartments, but they provide two side tables to give you more work area.

Another problem is the number of outlets, there is only one 12v outlet in the cabin (and another in the galley), and a single duplex 120v outlet in each area. Depending on your needs, that could be a significant shortage.

The bed is 6'6"x58", two inches shorter than a standard queen mattress in both directions.

But given their limitations, they are extremely nice trailers with well thought out cabinets and galley.
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Re: Advantages or disadvantages of the campinn 560 design??

Postby cherokeegeorge » Thu Oct 09, 2014 8:12 am

My daughter is taking delivery of a 560 soon. She has 2 small children, the bunk beds In the front give her advantage to camp in a tear with a family of 4. I have a 550, same galley and I've never found the verticle storage a problem.
Camp inns also have a built in stove that slides out of the way when traveling for ice chest storage :thumbsup:
I rarely use electricity so I never noticed the lack of outlets, theres one in the galley and one in the inside.
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Re: Advantages or disadvantages of the campinn 560 design??

Postby IamJerryP » Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:09 am

How about the aero dynamics, flat roof, curved sides, as opposed to the normal teardrop. Any difference in pulling, power needed, fuel efficiency etc..???????????
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Re: Advantages or disadvantages of the campinn 560 design??

Postby IamJerryP » Thu Oct 09, 2014 9:59 am

Found a great post by Ron Dickey, and a letter from Campinn about the aerodynamic differences.


viewtopic.php?f=21&t=49872&p=960674&hilit=aerodynamic+of+560#p960674

Ron Dickey wrote:I Wrote Camp Inn and they wrote back first I said,
Hi,

My name is Ron and I am a member of tntt.com
We are having a discussion about trailers curved like the RainDrop by Camp Inn.

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=49872&p=959995#p959995
we have just started into it.

But I had wondered sense you have trailers with front end both bowed up and down and left to right, can you tell any difference when you pull it.

I am thinking about a 2nd build and The Rain Drop is my dream trailer But out of my budget for now.

I am considering making it not only because it might be better pulling but also so I have more room in the front like a closet.


Can you offer us an opinion or what you have found.

And will you be offering other models in the future with the left to right bow.

Ron Dickey
Los Osos, CA.
I lived in Milwaukee 1966 to 79 Kind of miss the winter not the summers.

Cary Winch of
Camp-Inn travel trailers replyed.

Ron,

You betcha. This is a often discussed point. Interestingly enough no one guesses the correct answer on this. Believe it or not the Raindrop is actually more aerodynamic as a trailer than the 550 series. There are several factors that come into play here.

1) Wing chord. If you look at the side profile of a teardrop you generally see a wing profile. On a 8' long trailer like the 550 series this is a fairly short chord thick wing. It would be a low speed wing. With the 550 at about 60mph it is generating a nice amount of lift and is very clean aerodynamically. At about 63mph it overspeeds the wing a bit and the wing stops trying to lift and settles down hard on the road. This causes extra drag and will lose some mileage at higher speeds over 2 lane road speeds. The 560 series is a 10' long wing and the longer chord gives you a more high speed wing giving allowing you to cruise the interstate without the trailer getting aero dirty at speed. We honestly do not know at what speed the 560 starts to turbulate off the back.

2) Frontal area. This is the one that causes the most confusion. First off, the 550 and the 560 have the exact same amount of frontal area. Both are 5' wide and 4' high. They punch the same size hole through the air. The 560 creates a dirty transition edge along the upper roof line. 5' of sharp transition area that hurts the aero. However, the 550 has two dirty transition areas. These are the vertical edges of the side wall, 4' on each side for a total of 8' of sharp transition area that hurts the aero. So, from what we have seen the 560 has the cleaner, though less than perfect, front shape of the two.

3) Tow vehicle matching. This is where there is great variance in the performance of the 560. With the 550 the shape of the tow vehicle does not seem to make much difference. However with the 560 there is the real chance of the tow vehicle benefiting from the aero shape of the trailer. Most SUVs, vans and some trucks seem to work great with the 560 design. The aero off of most of these vehicles is problematic without a trailer because of the bluntness of the rear. Attaching a tail cone (like on the space shuttle in transit) for instance has been shown to greatly enhance the aero of the average SUV. The teardrops tend to become that tail cone in some cases. The 560 shape helps match the back of the tow vehicle better creating a streamliner train of sorts. We actually see tow vehicle GAIN mileage whenever the 560 is hooked up. Granted those few cases are indeed extreme cases of course.

We don't have any plans for new models at the moment.

Let me know if you have any questions at all.

Thank you
Cary Winch
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Just so you know the Raindrop is the 560
http://tinycamper.com/tourrain.htm
and
the 550 teardrop
http://tinycamper.com/teardrop550ultra.htm

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Re: Advantages or disadvantages of the campinn 560 design??

Postby Esteban » Thu Oct 09, 2014 2:32 pm

You can probably get your questions answered, and come up with new ideas, by reading posts at the unofficial campinnforum.com. They're a friendly group open to sharing ideas.

A detailed tour of a 560 by an owner also showing some of his custom upgrades.
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Re: Advantages or disadvantages of the campinn 560 design??

Postby jfocallag » Sat Oct 11, 2014 6:57 am

'Another problem is the number of outlets, there is only one 12v outlet in the cabin (and another in the galley), and a single duplex 120v outlet in each area. Depending on your needs, that could be a significant shortage.'

I own a 560 ultra. There are two 12 volt outlets in the cabin and two 120 duplex outlets. The second 12 volt outlet is in the storage cabinet behind the sofa and the second 120 duplex outlet is in the lower cabinet on the left.

The extra room is nice. I have spent many rainy days on the sofa reading.
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Re: Advantages or disadvantages of the campinn 560 design??

Postby drjenk » Wed Oct 15, 2014 12:26 am

We were decided on a campinn. We had a few months to look around before ordering and found teardrops nw. The advantages in galley space and tongue box options on the epic was too much to ignore. We did really like that couch the 560 had to offer, which I communicated to Bill there at tdnw. He worked on a design that combines couch and bed that is unique but I can't show it off yet because it's not done, but very soon. We're really impressed so far with their willingness to customize pretty much everything. We've got a cool galley pass through option in the works too. Plus we could fit a dometic cf50 at on a slide out, and all the storage is in drawers so there's no digging, which kind of looked to us like it would be a pain on the camp in to get something at the bottom of those bins. Stove on a slide out as well, and a side table. We had a couple extra outlets put in the cabin too. They had some very well thought out configurations and we can't wait, it's due in a couple weeks.
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Re: Advantages or disadvantages of the campinn 560 design??

Postby memaggie » Wed Oct 15, 2014 2:35 pm

drjenk wrote:We were decided on a campinn. We had a few months to look around before ordering and found teardrops nw. The advantages in galley space and tongue box options on the epic was too much to ignore. We did really like that couch the 560 had to offer, which I communicated to Bill there at tdnw. He worked on a design that combines couch and bed that is unique but I can't show it off yet because it's not done, but very soon. We're really impressed so far with their willingness to customize pretty much everything. We've got a cool galley pass through option in the works too. Plus we could fit a dometic cf50 at on a slide out, and all the storage is in drawers so there's no digging, which kind of looked to us like it would be a pain on the camp in to get something at the bottom of those bins. Stove on a slide out as well, and a side table. We had a couple extra outlets put in the cabin too. They had some very well thought out configurations and we can't wait, it's due in a couple weeks.


I really like the Teardrops NW trailers from their website. Look forward to seeing pictures of yours with the modifications!
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