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Wheel well help!

Postby peterlevins » Sat Dec 07, 2019 4:21 pm

I'm in a wheel well dilemma and it's hurting my brain lol.
I am using a popup frame and replaced the wheels with 14".
easy solution. I could cut the floor like the original popup and have "holes" for the wheel wells to be built, which would give the hidden tire look (straight line edge covering top of tire)...or
the trickier solution (which I like) is to have the outer wall have the car curve to expose the full wheel visually.
I looked into customizing my old tubs from the popup but think they are too small or won't work. so I'm trying to figure out how to build the well box but make it waterproof.
do I build the box then fiberglass or PMF the inside well? The part that I cant figure out mainly is where it attaches/butts the exterior wall. I am working on a drawing to maybe help illustrate the puzzle.
what have you all done for over tire floors/wells?


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Re: Wheel well help!

Postby GTS225 » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:05 pm

I'd build it with an exposed wheel well. If you enclose it, you may have difficulties changing a tire, should you need to along the side of the road.

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Re: Wheel well help!

Postby peterlevins » Sat Dec 07, 2019 6:07 pm

I need the 6ft width and arching the side to show the full wheel so changing will be easy.
It’s more a question of how to seal the tub and where it connects to the side wall. I’m thinking a ply box and PMF to seal it


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Re: Wheel well help!

Postby Modstock » Sun Dec 08, 2019 2:11 am

I believe I've seen these wheel well tubs made out of sheemetal or galvanized sheet and bent up to make an arch. Rubberized coating and silicone to seal up the small holes, ect.
An HVAC guy could probably help bend up a set.

Im sure someone will post some pics of what they have done.

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Re: Wheel well help!

Postby peterlevins » Sun Dec 08, 2019 5:58 am

Modstock wrote:I believe I've seen these wheel well tubs made out of sheemetal or galvanized sheet and bent up to make an arch. Rubberized coating and silicone to seal up the small holes, ect.
An HVAC guy could probably help bend up a set.

Im sure someone will post some pics of what they have done.

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Thank you. I have been thinking of farming it out to a fabricator but not sure yet. Why don’t these things come with directions haha.
Thank you for your input


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Re: Wheel well help!

Postby Philip » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:00 am

Look on google for wheel well tub's. There are a fast amount if inner wheel well tubs for auto. Some are a design that could be adapted for what your wanting to do. They are even made in carbon fiber.
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Re: Wheel well help!

Postby peterlevins » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:04 am

Philip wrote:Look on google for wheel well tub's. There are a fast amount if inner wheel well tubs for auto. Some are a design that could be adapted for what your wanting to do. They are even made in carbon fiber.


Funny, I was searching for those last night but couldn’t find the right, and inexpensive, solution.

I think where I’m hung up is the wall opening side.
The arch is smaller than the inside tub dimension so I can’t run a sheet out past the wall as a “fender”.

I’m thinking of building a ply box and coating it with PMF. Would that hold?


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Re: Wheel well help!

Postby Philip » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:07 am

A ply box would work. Might need to address the inside of the box with something that would withstand debris damage. Road debris will eat threw ply after a while.
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Re: Wheel well help!

Postby peterlevins » Sun Dec 08, 2019 10:09 am

Philip wrote:A ply box would work. Might need to address the inside of the box with something that would withstand debris damage. Road debris will eat threw ply after a while.


It will for sure. That’s why I was thinking the PMF coating


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Re: Wheel well help!

Postby tony.latham » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:04 am

The wooden boat crowed would tell you to epoxy/fiberglass it.

I'd suggest Hurculiner over the fiberglass to keep the rock erosion down.

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Re: Wheel well help!

Postby peterlevins » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:46 am

tony.latham wrote:The wooden boat crowed would tell you to epoxy/fiberglass it.

I'd suggest Hurculiner over the fiberglass to keep the rock erosion down.

Tony


Fiberglass was my other option. I've never done it before so maybe that's why I feel a little intimidated by it.
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Re: Wheel well help!

Postby GTS225 » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:44 pm

peterlevins wrote:Fiberglass was my other option. I've never done it before so maybe that's why I feel a little intimidated by it.

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Quite similar to PMF, but the "pot" life is quite a bit shorter. You have to work quickly with 'glass resins and catalyst, while the PMF gives you more working time before it gets to stiff to work with. I would think that Herculiner over PMF would be a pretty good solution.

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Re: Wheel well help!

Postby tony.latham » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:53 pm

...but the "pot" life is quite a bit shorter. You have to work quickly with 'glass resins and catalyst...


And that is one of several reasons I stopped using polyester resins nearly two decades ago.



Time glassing a wheel well isn't an issue. And no, you don't need to work as fast as I do in that video.

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Re: Wheel well help!

Postby peterlevins » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:28 am

GTS225 wrote:
peterlevins wrote:Fiberglass was my other option. I've never done it before so maybe that's why I feel a little intimidated by it.

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Quite similar to PMF, but the "pot" life is quite a bit shorter. You have to work quickly with 'glass resins and catalyst, while the PMF gives you more working time before it gets to stiff to work with. I would think that Herculiner over PMF would be a pretty good solution.

Roger


Thank you


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Re: Wheel well help!

Postby peterlevins » Mon Dec 09, 2019 8:31 am

tony.latham wrote:
...but the "pot" life is quite a bit shorter. You have to work quickly with 'glass resins and catalyst...


And that is one of several reasons I stopped using polyester resins nearly two decades ago.



Time glassing a wheel well isn't an issue. And no, you don't need to work as fast as I do in that video.

:frightened:

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Yeah I’m not that fast lol
Very cool


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