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Postby catrinka » Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:03 pm

This is the trailer that we were looking at for the base but now I'm wondering if it is going to be too heavy to pull behind my intrepid. Any thoughts on this??

M10,000
Landscape Trailer
Product Features
• Heavy-Duty fully welded tubular steel frame
• Steel mesh landscape gate for easy loading and unloading
• Premium black powder coat finish
• 95% Factory assembled
Specifications
UPC
777094-40612-3
Bed Dimensions
Approx. 5 1/2' x 10' (66" x 120")
G.V.W
2,900 lbs
Curb Weight
624 lbs
Payload Capacity
2,276 lbs
Tires
13" Class C premium highway rated - 1,450 lbs per tire
Axle
1-Position, fixed - rated for 3,000 lbs
Springs
Multiple leaf springs - rated for 3,200 lbs
Coupler Size
2" Class 2 coupler - rated for 3,500 lbs (with safety chains)
Construction/Frame Material
Heavy-Duty fully welded tubular steel frame
Assembled
Quick-Time assembly - 95% factory assembled
Sides, Gates & Ramps
Removable 14" tubular steel side and front rails with 4' steel mesh landscape gate
Extendable Bed Length
Bed length extends from 10' to 11' with 14" load-bearing extension front gate
Flooring
14" Ribbed steel center channel and 2 treated wood traction panels
Light Guards
Heavy-Duty protective steel encasing
Tie Downs
4 Tie down loops on frame, 1 full-length tie down bar on front gate and 6 tube pockets
Finish
Premium black powder coat
Lighting
Complies with all MOT and DOT requirements
Wiring
Pre-wired, 4-wire flat connector
Tongue
1-Position, fixed
Bearing Size
1 3/8" Inner and 1 1/16" outer
Wheels
5-Hole white spoke
Hitch Height
12"
Fenders
Round, bolt-on
Point-Of-Purchase (POP) Materials
Each trailer is fully merchandised with a full colour POP
Product Accessories
Motorcycle and tie-down straps not included.
Motorcycle Kit
Snowmobile not included.
Snowmobile Kit
Lock not included.
Spare Tire Holder
Accessories may not be exactly as shown.
Additional accessories may be available.
SnowBear Utility Trailers - Built To Last.
Call 1.800.337.2327 or visit our website at www.snowbear.com for more information about our products.
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Postby Guest » Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:35 pm

Cathy,
Find out what your car is rated at for towing weight.
As I understand the ratings, that trailer weighs 624lbs. and can hold a maximum payload of 2,276 lbs., giving you a GVW of 2,900 lbs.
Your finished trailer will end up weighing much less than that , I would think.
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Postby catrinka » Sun Aug 22, 2004 1:54 pm

My car is rated at 2000#. I'm guess I'm unsure of how much weight the teardrop will add to this trailer. It does give us a good size to build on though. I have a picture of it but I have to open it with adobe on my computer so I'm not sure how to get it posted on here for you to see. The trailer actually comes with sides and a 4' ramp that would be removed before we build on it, so the weight would be somewhat reduced.
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Postby Guest » Sun Aug 22, 2004 2:11 pm

I went to the Snow Bear site. They had a picture of the #9000, but not one of the #10,000
The #7,000 flatbed comes 54" wide. Is that a bit too "cozy" for your width needs?
I would find out if these trailers are available with the torrsion axles and if not, I would install gas shocks on the leaf spring type axle.

Check this site out, that's what he did.
http://www.outbackteardrop.com/index.htm
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Postby beverlyt » Sun Aug 22, 2004 2:11 pm

Cathy,
That trailer sounds pretty heavy. That's a lot of weight before even starting to build on it and add your "stuff". The HF trailer I have, 4' x 8' weighed 240.00 pounds.
I would GUESS we added another 400 pounds or more in building our tear...and that's on a 4'x8'.
Maybe you could find something a little lighter?

Course, I'm not anywhere near an expert on these things... someone else might think it's fine.

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Postby mikeschn » Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:40 pm

624 # is too heavy a trailer to start building a teardrop on. That's heavier than the Baja Benroy trailer which is a 6x10.

The new 5x8 which I expect to pick up tomorrow should weigh 184#, plus 48# for the axle and 78# for the wheels, for a total of 310#. A 5x10 should not weigh a whole lot more.

Your body will add quite a bit of weight too!

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Postby catrinka » Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:46 pm

hmmmmm...back to the drawing board :lol:
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Postby mikeschn » Sun Aug 22, 2004 3:57 pm

Cathy,

Do you have any local welders? Fabricators? Muffler shops?

Any one of them could weld up a trailer for you. Need a drawing? We can create one of those for you.

It's not hard, and you'll get exactly what you want! :wink:

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Postby catrinka » Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:01 pm

We might have to do that. I've been searching the net but can't seem to find many light weight trailers around here. Both Home Depot and Canadian Tire carry the Snowbear trailers and I'm not sure where else to look for light trailers. I know Costco had some trailers but they were all gone by the time we went to look so I'm not sure what they were like. I was looking at the harborfreight trailer but I'm not sure if they ship to canada and I'm sure it would cost more than its worth.
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Postby mikeschn » Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:03 pm

Which profile did you decide on? The Weekender? That only needs a 4x8 or 5x8 trailer depending on the width you choose.

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Postby catrinka » Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:08 pm

well.....all of my sketches have been based on 5 1/2' x 10', so if I change the size of trailer, then I have to change some other things. I could probably live with 6" less in width but if we go 10' long I think we can squeeze in the porti-potti idea.
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Postby Arne » Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:10 pm

The harbor freight trailer weighs 243 pounds. 4x8... I plan on widening it to 5x8 by simply cutting all rails in half and using angle iron in the middle, and whatever the axle needs... not sure about how the front will get done, but it will. Should still be under 300# wheels and all.

The bulge on the front of the trailer will be 1 foot on top of the 8 foot wall sitting on the trailer, for a 5x9 foot layout.

I am going to have a profile similar to my icon, but will, next year, develop a second hatch, squared off in back, so I can carry my motorcycle inside (after removing windshield and mirrors).

btw, can someone point me to a pic of the rear latch and how it locks the hatch to the flat bottom portion of the trailer... I have seen some clear pics of the door system, but not of the hatch cover...... also, it will be about 5 feet wide, is a center latch enough, or one on each side... seems I've seen some hardware on the sides of the hatch that look like a hasp for a padlock..... I think on Steve's t/d, but not sure.
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Postby Guest » Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:27 pm

Cathy,
I would contact Snow Bear and get the weights of the material that you are going to be discarding. Those ramps sound like they probably weigh quite a bit. Maybe they can give you a discounted price too, leaving out the ramps and the sides, so your not spending money on something you're going to dicard anyway. I don't know what the cost of that trailer is, but you should have no problem going with having a chassis built. It seems to me that a local muffler shop could fabricate a frame at about the same cost.

Psst,
You could also do the porta-potti like Bev just showed us.
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Postby catrinka » Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:30 pm

I did try to email snowbear to find out about getting a bare model and they sent me the specs that I posted and referred me to Canadian Tire. I'm going to try scanning some of my sketches so you can see what I've got planned so far.
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Postby mikeschn » Sun Aug 22, 2004 4:57 pm

Yes, your sketches would be a big help. Let me know when you got them online! :)

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