Newbie with some materials/construction questions....

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Postby Robbie » Wed May 11, 2011 1:11 pm

No problem!

I have a question for you all...

If I decide to install a galley it will be fairly small and built from 3/4" lite-ply, which is a really lite plywood. Will I still need to move the axle back 4"? I think eventually I'll put a small box on the front of the trailer that locks for emergency supplies (flares, fix-a-flat, jumper cables, oil, etc.). And the trailer will be towed with only our bedding and maybe a few cooking items, like pan, plastic ware, garbage bags, etc. inside and the rest will be in the car. So a fairly light rear load.
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Postby GPW » Wed May 11, 2011 1:25 pm

You can always put all your gear in the front to help the balance ...You do need a certain amount of tongue heaviness to it ...
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Postby 48Rob » Wed May 11, 2011 7:18 pm

49Rob, Gee!!! I don't think it's fair to dismiss a material like OSB from the get go


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Sorry if I came off too strong...but many years of experience with OSB has proven to me that while it is a good product for specific uses, it simply is not designed for, nor can be expected to last in exterior applications.

There are 4 general grades of OSB.
The type of glue used determines its moisture resistance.

Bob,

Sorry, not a personal attack, just my opinion based on experience.

GP and Bob,

ANY building material; OSB, Masonite, cardboard, even paper can be used in exterior applications.
The key is keeping them encapsulated (able to resist all moisture).
Bob's trailer may last 50 years; it all depends on how careful he is about making sure no moisture gets into the OSB.

I suggested not even considering using OSB to the new member because while it can withstand the elements if properly protected, if it gets wet a few times, or is subjected to an unknown leak, it will disintegrate before the issue becomes known, and will leave the trailer owner with a mess that requires complete disassembly of the trailer to replace.
A few extra dollars spent now, on plywood, will buy him a couple extra chances.
That is, plywood can take several wettings before delaminating/becoming ruined.

Simple logic says that using a very iffy material as a foundation on which to build your dream trailer is not wise.

If someone like Bob understands what he is doing, and is willing to take the risk that he will catch the leak before it causes damage, that’s great!
He saved a few bucks and all is well.

To many do it yourselfers, plywood and OSB are the same thing, sheet goods.
I'm simply pointing out that while they are both made of wood, and come in 4x8 sheets, they are not the same.
I know about wood and am trying to help a new person, the same as I would hope a doctor, or other professional would call to my attention, my lack of understanding in their field of knowledge.

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Postby GPW » Wed May 11, 2011 7:43 pm

48Rob, That does make good sense .... I understand now where you're coming from .... Thanks ... !!! 8)
Funny how the new guys have all the leaks , I guess as you learn , you develop as sense of where the water will get in , and provide protection for it ...
My first TD , literally flooded a couple times ... I knew to waterproof it and did , but didn't expect the Floods ... :oops:

Robbie , forget the OSB , buy some good plywood , and seal the heck out of it !!!! Sometimes free is worth what you pay for it... :roll: :oops:
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Postby dh » Wed May 11, 2011 9:41 pm

One question on your build method. If you are attaching the walls directly to the trailer frame, what will laying a wood frame on top of the trailer frame members do for you? Why not just attach the floor to the trailer members?

One more word, beware of Home Depot and Lowes plywood, lots of MDF core on the shelves. The hardwood ply they have is junk too, look close, its MDF core faced in oak or birch. I went to a few plywood specialty places (Coloco Fine Woods for 1/8" Baltic Birch, Interstate Plywood for marine grade 3/4" 4x10 sheets, and Certain Plywood for everything else, all in Memphis) and got my ply (well, what I could have gotten at the box stores anyway) just a few bucks more a sheet than at HD or Lowe's, and got solid ply.
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Postby bobhenry » Thu May 12, 2011 5:54 am

Robbie wrote:
And the trailer will be towed with only our bedding and maybe a few cooking items, like pan, plastic ware, garbage bags, etc. inside and the rest will be in the car. So a fairly light rear load.


:rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2: :rofl2:

and the pop up and the dutch ovens and the dutch oven table and the camp chairs and the porta potty and the porta potty tent and on and on :laughter:

The neighbors think we are moving every time we load for camping :lol:
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Postby bobhenry » Thu May 12, 2011 6:15 am

Hook up the trailer and jump up and down on it then you will understand the need for this,,,,,,,,

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Postby AlStAubin » Mon May 16, 2011 12:06 pm

bobhenry wrote:Zip panel is some interesting stuff. A fiberglass faced dense osb.

http://www.zipsystem.com/

I am using it on my 4x7 and the chuck wagon

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How does the zipsystem compare in prices to ply? It looks lik an interesting alternative.
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Postby bobhenry » Mon May 16, 2011 12:40 pm

About 1/2 again !
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