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Re: Heater

Postby razorback » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:33 pm

If you have electricity I believe this is the safest and best way to heat a teardrop.
It comes in two sizes: 24" X 24" and 18" X24"
I have the 18" X 24" unit which is 240 watts. It is installed on the wall between the cabin and the galley next to my wife's feet. It is 1/4 inch thick and is 1/2 inch off the wall and 3 inches off the floor. It does not get hot enough to combust anything. I have an outlet on this wall and I plug in a thermostat and then plug the unit into the thermostat.
You set the temp for what you want and it maintains it.
My td has 3/4 inch foam board in the walls, 1 1/4 inch foam board in the ceiling and 3 inches of foam board in the floor.
We have only camped in temps down to 20 degrees, but the unit maintains the temp at whatever temp you set.
It is a very soft indirect heat that does not lower the humidity of the air.
It works great for us as we never camp without electricity.
Larry
http://www.royaltystudio.com/products/E ... 20J98.html
this is the link to a thermostat similar to the one we use with this heater.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... PAodHm0AvQ
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Re: Heater

Postby Greg M » Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:43 pm

I keep switching back and forth mentally between one of those units that Razorback is using and getting a really small electric fireplace. I just keep thinking how fun it would be to have a fake fireplace in my trailer, especially with the flat screen monitor above it and surround sound. It'd be just like home :)

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Re: Heater

Postby 91kuhndog » Sat Jan 26, 2013 9:41 pm

Razorback,
I'm planning on using a 2000W inverter/generator to run my TD, which is more than enough power to support me whil dry camping... Thanks for the input, I'm going to order one now... that looks like a great, compact heater... and one my inverter can handle.
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Re: Heater

Postby razorback » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:44 pm

I think anyone who uses the heater we have in our td will be absolutely thrilled.
The ultimate answer for me was that my wife Macy will go camping when it is cold as long as she is warm.
We started with a small electric heater on the shelf above our feet. It kept the upper half of the td too hot
and the lower half of the td too cold.
The radiant heater from Econo Heat was the answer to the whole cabin in the td being warm.
The plug in thermostat was the icing on the cake as I did not wake up too hot and turn off the heater only
to wake up too cold and have to turn the heater back on.
A warm and happy wife is worth almost any thing!!
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Re: Heater

Postby Bogo » Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:02 pm

razorback wrote:If you have electricity I believe this is the safest and best way to heat a teardrop.
It comes in two sizes: 24" X 24" and 18" X24"
I have the 18" X 24" unit which is 240 watts. It is installed on the wall between the cabin and the galley next to my wife's feet. It is 1/4 inch thick and is 1/2 inch off the wall and 3 inches off the floor. It does not get hot enough to combust anything. I have an outlet on this wall and I plug in a thermostat and then plug the unit into the thermostat.
You set the temp for what you want and it maintains it.
My td has 3/4 inch foam board in the walls, 1 1/4 inch foam board in the ceiling and 3 inches of foam board in the floor.
We have only camped in temps down to 20 degrees, but the unit maintains the temp at whatever temp you set.
It is a very soft indirect heat that does not lower the humidity of the air.
It works great for us as we never camp without electricity.
Larry
http://www.royaltystudio.com/products/E ... 20J98.html
this is the link to a thermostat similar to the one we use with this heater.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... PAodHm0AvQ


I've seen these units in various other sizes. It is one of the methods I'd thought of for heating a TD. I'd thought of using one or two of these: http://www.helixcontrols.com/RadiantHeaterPanels.htm attached to the ceiling, and controlled by an external thermostat.
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Re: Heater

Postby Fishingtomatoseed » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:42 am

slowcowboy wrote:i got a old furnace out of a pop up camp trailer its a surbuban and a little on the large side.

I got a new thermocuple in it so still trying to get the pilot lite to stay lit. have not done much with it in 3 years.

I am hoping to get the pilot lite to stay lit and then install it into my new wild goose.

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I had thought about going with the pop up furnace. just don't know if I have room.

I am like this idea the most.

razorback wrote:If you have electricity I believe this is the safest and best way to heat a teardrop.
It comes in two sizes: 24" X 24" and 18" X24"
I have the 18" X 24" unit which is 240 watts. It is installed on the wall between the cabin and the galley next to my wife's feet. It is 1/4 inch thick and is 1/2 inch off the wall and 3 inches off the floor. It does not get hot enough to combust anything. I have an outlet on this wall and I plug in a thermostat and then plug the unit into the thermostat.
You set the temp for what you want and it maintains it.
My td has 3/4 inch foam board in the walls, 1 1/4 inch foam board in the ceiling and 3 inches of foam board in the floor.
We have only camped in temps down to 20 degrees, but the unit maintains the temp at whatever temp you set.
It is a very soft indirect heat that does not lower the humidity of the air.
It works great for us as we never camp without electricity.
Larry
http://www.royaltystudio.com/products/E ... 20J98.html
this is the link to a thermostat similar to the one we use with this heater.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... PAodHm0AvQ


Along with using a genarator like 91kuhndog. Think I will buy one of the flat wall heaters for next year and a generator.
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Re: Heater

Postby 91kuhndog » Wed Feb 06, 2013 5:17 pm

Clint,
Some of the big box stores carry the flat panel heaters but all I could find were the 24"x24" panels.... too big for the wallspace I'm offering up. I ended up ordering an ENVI electric panel heater, it's 475W on high and measures 19"x22". I got it yesterday (already?) and put it to use... it's pretty amazing considering the amount of power it uses. I hooked it up the afternoon to my inverter generator to make sure it wouldnt surge and trip the inverter and it worked great. On the other hand, if you're not in a hurry to get a heater.... wiat about 8 weeks and you'll probably be able to pick one up cheap! I just bought a 5 month old 5000W Haier air conditioner, still in the box of CL for $10! --Brad
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Re: Heater

Postby Fishingtomatoseed » Thu Feb 07, 2013 7:56 pm

Thank you for the update 91kuhndog. I found one panel on CL for 50.00 today.
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Re: Heater

Postby razorback » Thu Feb 07, 2013 8:13 pm

Here is a link to the unit I have in my td. It is 18" X 24"
I did not pay this much. I paid 74.00 in 2008.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Econo-Heat-Wall ... 20cf29c766
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Re: Heater

Postby H.A. » Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:54 pm

Off Grid Rving wrote: my first choice though. would be a Newport Dickenson Solid Fuel Heater.


Never had one of these myself, just recounting what sailboat friends said...
Given its ability to burn scrounged wood, camel dung or whatever, they require alot of fuss with the fire to keep it burning steady.
Burning charcoal or briquetts is still fussy, But not as much as other fuels.
Its firebox is just too small to charge well and regulate the burn like a regular woodstove can.
Burning coal was not mentioned, Given the variety of coal grades, I would think that be fussiest of the lot.
At any case its best to install with a ducted in combustion air.
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Re: Heater

Postby Guy » Sat Feb 09, 2013 4:34 pm

Dear Clint,

I have been full timing in my tear for 7 years and have come to truly appreciate my catalytic heater. FIRST, safety was established by including an age old passive cooling technique. I placed a vent in the
floor
of the teardrop which would aid in creating passive cooling during the hot months. It is very effective. Next, I have gotten an Camco Olympic Wave 3 Catalytic propane heater mounted it on the door of the teardrop above the floor vent and slave it off the propane tank. Since your teardrop is also a larger one this would also work for you. The added benefit of this type of setup is the floor venting technique eliminates any condensation in the tear and the heater requires no electricity or battery drain.

http://www.amazon.com/Camco-57331-Olymp ... B000BUV1RK
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Re: Heater

Postby Fishingtomatoseed » Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:37 pm

Guy I had thought about those heaters but did not know how safe they would be. I guess one could mount it to the door to get it out of the floor and away from blankets and kids that roll around.

I am also looking at the flat panel heaters. I found one at a box store that is 150watt. Wonder how well that would warm up a tear.
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Re: Heater

Postby Guy » Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:26 pm

Dear Clint,

That is exactly why I mounted it on the door and raised it above the floor. I took seriously your post about not camping where there is electricity which is why I suggested a no electric solution. The panels you linked to require 15 amps per hour of running time. That will drain your battery bank in short time.
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Re: Heater

Postby Fishingtomatoseed » Tue Feb 12, 2013 9:31 pm

Guy wrote:Dear Clint,

That is exactly why I mounted it on the door and raised it above the floor. I took seriously your post about not camping where there is electricity which is why I suggested a no electric solution. The panels you linked to require 15 amps per hour of running time. That will drain your battery bank in short time.


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