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Postby Classic Finn » Tue Apr 01, 2008 2:21 pm

Now to Double Check, Is this the correct side of the Hinge on the Body Side? And is it cut to the length of the outer wall to outer wall plus a 1/4" on ends or is it cut to the inner to inner measurement equal to that measure?

As I notice this hinge is not "Offset" ..(Grants Hinge)

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Kind of a Bad Pic but the dark side is the body with the black cover for the screws?

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Postby Gage » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:06 pm

It probably doesn't help much but I notched my sides and ran a 2x2 across for my galley hinge support. Glued the cross support in place, no screws. Also, as seen in your pic, you have the hinge half located wrong on your galley hatch. It attaches to the end of your framing, not to the top which in turn will give you about a 1/4 gap between the galley lid and main hinge cross member. Look closely at the hinge pic and you'll see what I'm talking about. Hope that makes sense.
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Postby Classic Finn » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:26 pm

Gage wrote:It probably doesn't help much but I notched my sides and ran a 2x2 across for my galley hinge support. Glued the cross support in place, no screws. Also, as seen in your pic, you have the hinge half located wrong on your galley hatch. It attaches to the end of your framing, not to the top which in turn will give you about a 1/4 gap between the galley lid and main hinge cross member. Look closely at the hinge pic and you'll see what I'm talking about. Hope that makes sense.
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So you made a complete 2 x 2 cut out sort of speak by the looks of it..on your walls..

I see what you mean Gage thanks for the heads up..Nothing is in place yet there Gage.. I didnt cut or screw anything in yet.. Im making a oak spar at the moment and waiting for it to dry since I laminated 2 together.

Thank You Gage.. :)
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Postby Classic Finn » Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:38 pm

Gage is this correct?

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Postby Gage » Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:19 pm

I can't tell, it's to dark. But looks right from what I can see. What did I just say? :?
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Postby Classic Finn » Tue Apr 01, 2008 4:59 pm

Gage wrote:I can't tell, it's to dark. But looks right from what I can see. What did I just say? :?



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Postby Classic Finn » Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:16 pm

toypusher wrote:one think from the photos. Your hatch looks to be designed to just have the edge overhang the sidewalls. Are you putting anything else on the edge of the hatch??

BTW: I have to go away from the PC for a while. I will check back later.


Now this question of Kerry,s has had me worried.... :thinking: :thinking:

On the inside of the inner walls or ? Shape of the hatch rib on the sides? A filler strip same shape ?

Or :thinking: :thinking:

Cant help myself...
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Postby toypusher » Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:40 pm

Heikki,

Mine is designed like the one in the Generic Benroy Plans. I was just wondering if you were doing yours that way or not. Mine has a piece of angle aluminum that is fastened to the edge of the hatch and it hangs down over the sidewalls.

What I am talking about is the 'L trim' in this photo. The rest of the photo does not really apply!
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Postby Classic Finn » Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:01 pm

toypusher wrote:Heikki,

Mine is designed like the one in the Generic Benroy Plans. I was just wondering if you were doing yours that way or not. Mine has a piece of angle aluminum that is fastened to the edge of the hatch and it hangs down over the sidewalls.

What I am talking about is the 'L trim' in this photo. The rest of the photo does not really apply!
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Ahaa, Ok there will be an angled aluminum moulding there yet..which does come down over that hatch.. yes indeed. It will also prevent the water from getting in there.. I,ll pull that aluminum out to show you in the morning our time..

Let me see if I have a pic of it someplace..
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Postby Classic Finn » Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:10 pm

Ok here is a photo of the kind I have at the moment. Its the one on the right hand side on both pics.. we were thinking of using the awning molding as you see on the left of the pics since were having the awning attatched on one side and the normal moulding on the other..It was just a thought but the right side of the photo is what the Europeans use for corner or L moulding and both have the screw cover or insert moulding.

Is that what you meant then Kerry? That does come down the edge of the hatch nicely., plus it has a rubber moulding that is installed under it which also has the butane compound tape under it included right on the rubber moulding.

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Here is the Rubber Moulding with the Butyl compund that goes underneath the corner or aluminun profiles..

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Thats the sytem used here.. ;)
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Postby Classic Finn » Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:24 pm

So if you look at the hatch you can possibly picture it with the moulding on the edge coming down as compared to just straight like it is now..

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Under the hatch edge (interior edge) there will be a rubber seal running all along the edge there.

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Postby toypusher » Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:40 pm

You may or maynot need to cut a notch out of your sidewalls for the seal, then. You probably will have to make the call on that one. If you just have the seal on the sidewall, it may cause too much pressure at the hinge when you close the hatch. Just something to be aware of.
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Postby Classic Finn » Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:45 pm

toypusher wrote:You may or maynot need to cut a notch out of your sidewalls for the seal, then. You probably will have to make the call on that one. If you just have the seal on the sidewall, it may cause too much pressure at the hinge when you close the hatch. Just something to be aware of.


You know somthing that I was also looking at a few minutes ago outside.
So I guess I,ll get that spar done and install it first and give it a try again.

As I mentioned I dont have a table saw yet so Im going to run to my sons wood working class and cut the spar narrower cause its like 4 or 5 inches wide..

Its drying right now as we speak.. so it will be out of Oak this time..and I,ll drill the holes for the Kreg screws to tighten down and glue..

I,ll keep my fingers crossed.. If that works then the worst is over..in my opinion.. :worship: :worship:

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Postby Micro469 » Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:59 pm

Heikki, I'm with Gage... If you notch out your sidewalls to fit the rib into, and then epoxy/or glue it into place, I think it will be strong enough to hold the hinge. Once you have the roof and the inside header glued/epoxied on it should be strong enough.

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Postby Gage » Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:07 pm

Classic Finn wrote: <snip>

As I mentioned I dont have a table saw yet so Im going to run to my sons wood working class and cut the spar narrower cause its like 4 or 5 inches wide..

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